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post #4381 of 4877
ok this has been bugging me, when I play a cd and hit anything on the remote (say to skip a song), it takes a good 7-10 seconds for anything to happen after I pressed it. If i turn on the tv and it goes to the "CD" screen, it functions perfectly until i turn off the tv. Then it's back to a big delay between button presses.

Anyone else with this problem? I hate having to turn on the tv just to listen to a cd.
firmware 4.0 is installed.
post #4382 of 4877
Could'nt tell you...I use a CD player for CD's and my A35 for HD DVD/DVD...
post #4383 of 4877
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

ok this has been bugging me, when I play a cd and hit anything on the remote (say to skip a song), it takes a good 7-10 seconds for anything to happen after I pressed it. If i turn on the tv and it goes to the "CD" screen, it functions perfectly until i turn off the tv. Then it's back to a big delay between button presses.

Anyone else with this problem? I hate having to turn on the tv just to listen to a cd.
firmware 4.0 is installed.

Not sure what receiver you have, but if there is a front panel button to disable HDMI OUT, you should be able to play CDs problem-free while the TV is off. Just make sure you remember to enable it again before you play HD DVDs.
post #4384 of 4877
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Originally Posted by BasicBlak View Post

You should experience increased stability and (finally) flawless 24fps playback of AVC/MPEG-4 HD DVDs.

...unless your panel is a Panasonic TH-58PZ800U.
(flicker, flicker, flicker...)
post #4385 of 4877
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Originally Posted by Quidsane View Post

...unless your panel is a Panasonic TH-58PZ800U.
(flicker, flicker, flicker...)

LOL... Perhaps so (I don't own a Panny plasma, so I wouldn't be able to comment there), but I'd imagine that would be an issue with the TV; point is, Tosh has resolved its 1080/24p issues on AVC/MPEG-4 discs, for which I'm immensely grateful.
post #4386 of 4877
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Originally Posted by BasicBlak View Post

LOL... Perhaps so (I don't own a Panny plasma, so I wouldn't be able to comment there), but I'd imagine that would be an issue with the TV; point is, Tosh has resolved its 1080/24p issues on AVC/MPEG-4 discs, for which I'm immensely grateful.

What HDDVD's are in AVC/MPEG-4? I ask since I have an A35 hooked up to my Mitsy but also an A2 hooked up to my Panny 42" plasma and have not seen any problems w/1080/24fps movies.
post #4387 of 4877
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

What HDDVD's are in AVC/MPEG-4? I ask since I have an A35 hooked up to my Mitsy but also an A2 hooked up to my Panny 42" plasma and have not seen any problems w/1080/24fps movies.

A sizeable chunk of Paramount and Weinstein titles, for starters. Many import HD DVD titles as well. But you wouldn't see any issues anyway with your A2, as its maximum resolution is 1080i.

The Toshiba A35/XA2 Firmware threads cover this subject pretty thoroughly.
post #4388 of 4877
Hope someone could answer this simply. Will the a35 bistream DD+ ,or will it decoded the sound then pcm it out, or does it down mix it to regular dolby digital. All this via an hdmi connection ofcorse.
post #4389 of 4877
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Will the a35 bistream DD+

Yes...
post #4390 of 4877
No matter what I play, I get a long delay between loading and play. Also, I miss the first few seconds of material when the sound and/or picture begin. This began with 4.0. I use HDMI into an Integra 9.9 with a pass through to an Optoma HD81-LV. Very frustrating.
post #4391 of 4877
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Originally Posted by MrHifi View Post

No matter what I play, I get a long delay between loading and play. Also, I miss the first few seconds of material when the sound and/or picture begin. This began with 4.0. I use HDMI into an Integra 9.9 with a pass through to an Optoma HD81-LV. Very frustrating.

Sort of what I experience too - the good thing most HDDVD's begin w/'warnings' etc so I don't mind 'missing' part of those.
post #4392 of 4877
This started with one of the early upgrades. Originally, it worked perfectly. It is annoying when I play a DVD or CD. The first few syllables are chopped off. Also, it takes a while to sync to the TV.
post #4393 of 4877
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Originally Posted by MrHifi View Post

This started with one of the early upgrades. Originally, it worked perfectly. It is annoying when I play a DVD or CD. The first few syllables are chopped off. Also, it takes a while to sync to the TV.

I don't have this issue at all and I'm at FW 4. I don't recall ever having this issue as far back as FW 2 which came installed on the player. Or at least it isn't something I'm noticing. I'm using HD-A35 to Onkyo 705 via HDMI.
post #4394 of 4877
I never had that problem before. And the new 4.0 now helps my HD DVD's boot up a little faster. No more movies stopping in the middle of playing some DVD's and HD DVD's.

I think this has to do with the digital receiver and the HDMI connection. It sounds like it's taking a little longer for the receiver to figure out what\\s going on and how to spit out the video/audio. IMO.

I'm using HD35 w/ Onkyo 605
post #4395 of 4877
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Originally Posted by Super XP View Post

I never had that problem before. And the new 4.0 now helps my HD DVD's boot up a little faster. No more movies stopping in the middle of playing some DVD's and HD DVD's.

I think this has to do with the digital receiver and the HDMI connection. It sounds like it's taking a little longer for the receiver to figure out what\\s going on and how to spit out the video/audio. IMO.

I'm using HD35 w/ Onkyo 605

I agree with the HDMI receiver "handshake" being the issue. You might try turning on the player first in the hardware chain.
post #4396 of 4877
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Originally Posted by snowghost View Post

I agree with the HDMI receiver "handshake" being the issue. You might try turning on the player first in the hardware chain.

Agreed it may be the issue. My Onkyo was the problem because there would be audio delay via any component. I updated the FW and now I have immediate audio even before video.

MrHiFi, have you updated the Integra's FW? See here and here.
post #4397 of 4877
Sometimes my HD35 displays on screen to restart the player so that the Onkyo can do the audio decoding. If I don't restart the HD35, then it will display as multi-channel which I assume the player would do the audio decoding and just pass it through the 605.

This happends only if I turn on the Onkyo while my HD35 is in the middle of playing a movie. This is not a negative at all and the audio/video are in sync 100%.
post #4398 of 4877
I've had my HD-A35 for about a year and everything has worked well until recently. Lately, I notice a skip in the audio every 2 minutes ONLY when it's sending DD+ or Dolby TrueHD. All other audio formats work fine. This happens on all of my HD DVDs when player these audio formats, so I know it's not the movies. It happens even on brand new movies I just opened today. I have my player connected via HDMI to my Pio receiver, which decodes these formats. I do not have any of these problems with my Blu-ray player and I tried different HDMI cables, so the problem must be with the HD-A35. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how could this be fixed? I did not purchase from an authorized dealer and do not have a warrenty.

Also, when I change Digital Direct to "OFF" then the audio comes up on my receiver as PCM, but does not have any skipping at all. The audio works perfectly when my receiver says PCM, but I feel like something is lacking in the audio. I switched back and forth between Digital Direct "ON" and "OFF" and noticed improved audio quality when the receiver came up with DD+ or DTrueHD over the PCM audio. Is this true, that Digital Direct "ON" produces better audio than "OFF"? I really would like to watch HD-DVDs with the receiver decoding the audio rather than the player, but I have to deal with the audio skipping ever 2 minutes. The skipping drives me crazy and I'd really like to know if someone has any advice or has ever had this problem. I'd also like to know if having the receiver decode the audio produces better audio than having the player decode the audio. Thanks!
post #4399 of 4877
Connect via 5.1 analog out from the A35 to the Pioneer multi channel inputs and report back your findings...
post #4400 of 4877
I just tested the Mutli-in and no skipping audio was produced. But the audio significantly lacked in bass. Enough where I would not use Multi-in for my set-up. So far, the only time the audio skips is with Digital Direct "ON" via HDMI while playing only DD+ and Dolby TrueHD. I guess I'll just have to keep Digital Direct "OFF" while allowing the player to decode DD+ and Dolby True HD and allow my receiver to have PCM audio while watching HD-DVD's.
post #4401 of 4877
Adjust the subwoofer level in the A35 for more bass...The Pioneer is only an amplifier using the multi-input and bass/speaker levels & distances are no longer employed and MUST be set in the A35...
post #4402 of 4877
^What Splicer010 said.

Jugglebob, multi-channel out setup is covered pretty well in the manual. If you didn't get one with your purchase, download it for free at the Toshiba website.

I suspect you may have outdated firmware, as bitstream issues have been reported with one or two of the earlier versions. Are you currently at v4.0? If not, update your firmware and try bitstreaming again. Digital Direct ON is what permits bitstreaming in the first place, so theoretically, there shouldn't be any problems with that setting.

And just so you know, the high resolution audio output quality with the A35 vis-a-via any late model receiver should be pretty much on par with each other. The problem with the A35 is that the output volume for HDMI/multi-ch PCM is lower than the raw stream. Not too familiar with Pioneer receivers, but my Onkyo has a feature that allows for increasing input levels of connected components ("IntelliVolume"), making it easy to level match the A35's raw stream output with its multi-ch PCM output. Some players allow for such an adjustment internally (e.g. PS3), which is actually the preferred method. But it's nice to know certain receivers have it on hand. Perhaps your Pioneer has this feature...?
post #4403 of 4877
Thanks for the advice. I updated the player a few weeks ago to the most recent 4.0 update. This was actually about the time I began to notice the dropping of audio throughout the movie. I'm not saying this was the cause, but that's about the time I began to notice it. It was only happening a few time during a movie, but now it's every 2 or 3 minutes.

I read a bit more about adjusting the analog speaker set-up from the a35. I played with a few adjustments and raised the volume on my receiver, but the bass was still too low. I like quite a bit of bass and I have two subwoofers connected to my receiver.

I think the audio from HDMI with Digital Direct "Off" sounds similiar to Multi-Ch Analog outputs, but I perfer the HDMI audio. I think I'll just stick to keeping Digital Direct off and allow my receiver to accept PCM 96kHz audio. Or I'll deal with the occasional audio drop and turn Digital Direct "ON" while allowing the receiver to perform the decoding.
post #4404 of 4877
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Originally Posted by jugglebob View Post

Thanks for the advice. I updated the player a few weeks ago to the most recent 4.0 update. This was actually about the time I began to notice the dropping of audio throughout the movie. I'm not saying this was the cause, but that's about the time I began to notice it. It was only happening a few time during a movie, but now it's every 2 or 3 minutes.

I read a bit more about adjusting the analog speaker set-up from the a35. I played with a few adjustments and raised the volume on my receiver, but the bass was still too low. I like quite a bit of bass and I have two subwoofers connected to my receiver.

I think the audio from HDMI with Digital Direct "Off" sounds similiar to Multi-Ch Analog outputs, but I perfer the HDMI audio. I think I'll just stick to keeping Digital Direct off and allow my receiver to accept PCM 96kHz audio. Or I'll deal with the occasional audio drop and turn Digital Direct "ON" while allowing the receiver to perform the decoding.

I'm upgrading to FW 4.0 tonight to see if there is a difference. I too have audio dropouts when I have direct mode ON. Kinda makes Beowulf and Transformers annoying to watch on HD-DVD as I see no reason to upgrade to the blu-rays. Hopefully the FW update will fix these dropouts! I'll try to report back tomorrow.
post #4405 of 4877
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Originally Posted by Hector.B View Post

I'm upgrading to FW 4.0 tonight to see if there is a difference. I too have audio dropouts when I have direct mode ON. Kinda makes Beowulf and Transformers annoying to watch on HD-DVD as I see no reason to upgrade to the blu-rays. Hopefully the FW update will fix these dropouts! I'll try to report back tomorrow.

Hi Hector.B, Sorry to hear you have the same problem as me, but it's also nice to hear that this problem has occurred with others and I'm not alone. It does make watching action movies really annoying. You'll be into an amazing loud scene and then you hear the "skip" sound. Please report back after you've complete your update and have checked other discs. My player still did it after the 4.0 update. I know it's not the disc since I tried playing the same movie on my A20 I have connected to my Bedroom Home Theater and it worked perfectly.
post #4406 of 4877
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Originally Posted by jugglebob View Post

Thanks for the advice. I updated the player a few weeks ago to the most recent 4.0 update. This was actually about the time I began to notice the dropping of audio throughout the movie. I'm not saying this was the cause, but that's about the time I began to notice it. It was only happening a few time during a movie, but now it's every 2 or 3 minutes.

I read a bit more about adjusting the analog speaker set-up from the a35. I played with a few adjustments and raised the volume on my receiver, but the bass was still too low. I like quite a bit of bass and I have two subwoofers connected to my receiver.

I think the audio from HDMI with Digital Direct "Off" sounds similiar to Multi-Ch Analog outputs, but I perfer the HDMI audio. I think I'll just stick to keeping Digital Direct off and allow my receiver to accept PCM 96kHz audio. Or I'll deal with the occasional audio drop and turn Digital Direct "ON" while allowing the receiver to perform the decoding.

Make sure your HD-A35 is set to Bitstream and HDMI audio to AUTO. Also just wondering is Digital Direct in the receivers setup? You can also increase your subs gain via the 5.1 analog setup in your A35 unless you have the analog hooked up via your digital receiver. My Onkyo 605 has a feature called double bass, maybe your Panasonic has something similar. My house shakes when I have that enabled

As for me FW4.0 is working great for now. I have my A35 hooked upto my Onkyo 605 and it sounds great.
post #4407 of 4877
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Originally Posted by Super XP View Post

Make sure your HD-A35 is set to Bitstream and HDMI audio to AUTO. Also just wondering is Digital Direct in the receivers setup? You can also increase your subs gain via the 5.1 analog setup in your A35 unless you have the analog hooked up via your digital receiver. My Onkyo 605 has a feature called double bass, maybe your Panasonic has something similar. My house shakes when I have that enabled

As for me FW4.0 is working great for now. I have my A35 hooked upto my Onkyo 605 and it sounds great.

I have my a35 set to bitstream HDMI audio by selecting Digital Direct "on" in the a35 menu and the HDMI audio to Auto. My Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K receiver does not have Digital Direct setting only my a35. My receiver does give me the option to increase the bass when I have Analog audio set, but I perfer to just have the HDMI to pass video and audio to the receiver, less cables and better sound IMO. In my set-up, I have six Infinity Beta 50 Towers, one Beta C360 Center, and two Infinity Primus 12in subs. I think I'll just deal with sending PCM audio to my receiver and allow my player to do the decoding. I only have about 100 HD-DVD's and that's about reaching the end of my collection, but I have about 300 BD's so far and I'll most likely be using my Pioneer Blu-ray Player more often. I recently purchased a Pioneer 5020 Kuro Plasma, so the Pioneer BD works much smoother with my display than my a35. Occasionally I'll notice HD-DVDs playing at 1.85:1 ratio does not fill the entire screen and displays a small black bar on just the bottom of the screen. So I have to move the screen down on my 5020 to center the picture. My Pioneer BD player never has that problem. That's not too big of a deal, but the audio dropping is quite annoying.
post #4408 of 4877
Thanks funny I've never had a problem with a black bar only at the bottom or top. It's normal to have two black bars. HDTV right now are widescreen but not "TRUE" widescreen which is why we have bars on the bottom and top.

It sounds like you have everything setup correctly. What I noticed is when I let my Onkyo do the audio decoding I get more of a bass punch where as if I let my A35 do the decoding I don't get the bass punch as much. Both ways sound fantastic though. I too hate a lot of wires too, HDMI is such a quick fix and best audio/video quality.

I'm still growing my HD DVD collection. It's hard to say no to brand new $1.99 to $4.99 HD DVD movies But I've stated a BD collection but only willing to pay $15 or less for Brand New Sealed movies that I absolutely must have.

Anyway Toshiba is still releasing firmware updates up until 2012-2013 so I would contact Toshiba's tech support and ask them about your situation.
post #4409 of 4877
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Anyway Toshiba is still releasing firmware updates up until 2012-2013 so I would contact Toshiba's tech support and ask them about your situation.

(Emphasis mine.)

For HD DVD players?? Interesting. Out of curiosity, how do we know this?
post #4410 of 4877
I agree, $3 for an HDDVD movie!? How can you go wrong! And add to that if it's a combo disc that means you're getting 2 for 1! I mentioned to my better half that if people who don't have an HDDVD player or BD player wanted certain movies it'd be cheaper for them to buy the HDDVD combo one than to buy the 'regular dvd'!
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