Originally Posted by ECH
I am not sure why people are still talking about this. As you and many other's have already said, the LFE is similar to the movie. This issue has been debunked, thrown in the trash and recycled and yet people still want to chew on it. Truth of the matter, user error and audio hookup were the main culprits to some problems. Some had to tweak certain features from their receiver, some from the HD player, etc. etc. It was also proven that the SD was exactly the same as the HD (inwhich people were saying that the SD was better). All this was discussed several pages ago.
I am not trying to be mean but this thread should have been locked a long time ago. It really gets old.
Posts 481 through 600 really gets down to some basic home theater tweaking issues that helped a lot of people.
They want to chew on it because they have an unresolved audio problem only experienced on Transformers. This issue is not resolved. I agree that it is highly unlikely that it is a disc issue. I think it's an encoding issue that manifests itself with certain combinations of equipment.
I have the issue. As I stated before, I change to bitstream over optical with my system, and the walls shake. Let me say that again -- over optical and bitstream, the movie sounds completely different -- huge bass. Playing PCM over HDMI, I can't even tell the subwoofer is on. In fact, it sounds very strange as all of the bass, what there is of it, is coming from my fronts and center. Since these speakers are of the bookshelf variety, it is very noticable.
The question we should be asking is how is this movie encoded that is different than other movies? Why are we only experiencing this LFE issue on this particular movie while others play fine.
Here is my equipment, which has all been calibrated with DVE and a sound meter. It's not high end, but it has performed just fine with all other movies.
Panasonic XR-57 (subwoofer set to +10)
Toshiba HD-A3 Firmware 1.3 (range and dialog both set to OFF)
Velodyne Front Row Surround Speakers
BIC H100 Subwoofer
Now, someone may point out correctly that the Panasonic has the LFE issue, but even pushing the subwoofer to +20 (Max) doesn't solve the issue with the lack of bass on Transformers.
ECH, are you saying that the issue doesn't exist, or are you saying that the culprit is simply not the disc? If it's the latter, I agree. If it's the former, I can assure you the issue exists and is very real.