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post #2491 of 2662
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Originally Posted by SKoprowski View Post

I'm curious- do you have your video resolution setting at "auto" or do you have it set for 720p, 1080p etc. I'm beginning to thing that the drop outs are due to the handshake issues when the video is set to auto.

They still happen occasionally on 1080i with my main setup but on my Sony LCD (native hdmi v1.3) it is perfect 100% of the time on Auto and i've swapped my players to prove it isn't just one player being dodgy!
post #2492 of 2662
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd View Post

I just checked my set-up and it is set to 1080p and not Auto. I was really hoping that would solve the problem with my drop-outs.

Off to Best Buy it goes.

"Anotha' one bites the dust!"
post #2493 of 2662
Hi All, New owner of a BH200 and initial feelings are good about this player. Have compared it to my S1 and XA2 and it appears to do well. Have noticed something I am not sure if it is a problem. The LG has a very dark picture especially with QDEO "on". To the point that almost no detail is visible in dark scenes. In reading through this forum I'm finding that people are saying the opposite about this player. I have turned off QDEO and used the user settings but the picture still seems to have a dark edge to it. Connection is via hdmi straight to tv using same connection as my other players. I was wondering if I may have a bum player? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
post #2494 of 2662
when playing the same disc on the same input on my PS3 and BH200 I notice no difference in picture brightness.
post #2495 of 2662
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Originally Posted by Airwrench View Post

Hi All, New owner of a BH200 and initial feelings are good about this player. Have compared it to my S1 and XA2 and it appears to do well. Have noticed something I am not sure if it is a problem. The LG has a very dark picture especially with QDEO "on". To the point that almost no detail is visible in dark scenes. In reading through this forum I'm finding that people are saying the opposite about this player. I have turned off QDEO and used the user settings but the picture still seems to have a dark edge to it. Connection is via hdmi straight to tv using same connection as my other players. I was wondering if I may have a bum player? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

AFAIK the BH200 sends PC level video signal (0 to 255) instead of the normal video level (16 to 234) which could be the source of your problem depending on what your TV is expecting. Does your TV has a black level setting (no talking about brightness control)? My Panasonic TV has a Light ( video level) and Dark (PC level) setting for blacks. Other TV use names such as Normal (video level) and Enhanced (PC level). Check your TV manual.
post #2496 of 2662
I have a Tosh crt rptv and I am not aware of a specific black level setting. Does the bh200 send a different video signal to my tv than my S1 and XA2?
For comparison I was merely swapping cables from one player to the other and consistantly the bh200 was displying a very dark picture. I have two separate hdmi inputs on the tv.
I will certainly go back and see if there are other settings I can set to correct this but from reading through this forum I didn't seem to find anyone else complaining of this issue.
post #2497 of 2662
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Originally Posted by Airwrench View Post

I have a Tosh crt rptv and I am not aware of a specific black level setting. Does the bh200 send a different video signal to my tv than my S1 and XA2?
For comparison I was merely swapping cables from one player to the other and consistantly the bh200 was displying a very dark picture. I have two separate hdmi inputs on the tv.
I will certainly go back and see if there are other settings I can set to correct this but from reading through this forum I didn't seem to find anyone else complaining of this issue.

Keep in mind that typically you need to tweak TV picture settings for different players. The setting that you use for your XA2 for example may not work for other players such as the BH200. This is why is recommended to get a calibration disc such as Digital Video Essentials or AVIA to make adjustment.
post #2498 of 2662
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Originally Posted by Airwrench View Post

Hi All, New owner of a BH200 and initial feelings are good about this player. Have compared it to my S1 and XA2 and it appears to do well. Have noticed something I am not sure if it is a problem. The LG has a very dark picture especially with QDEO "on". To the point that almost no detail is visible in dark scenes. In reading through this forum I'm finding that people are saying the opposite about this player. I have turned off QDEO and used the user settings but the picture still seems to have a dark edge to it. Connection is via hdmi straight to tv using same connection as my other players. I was wondering if I may have a bum player? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

I just hooked up a new BH200 to my 720p Panasonic plasma, and I've also noticed that the picture seems dark. After connecting the BH200 I recalibrated my set with a DVE disc, but with the QDEO setting on, I seem to be noticing black crush and exaggerated color saturation.

What is the general preference among you BH200 owners-----do you keep the QDEO setting on, use the user "default" setting, or do you tweak the user settings at all?
post #2499 of 2662
Glen did you update the FW? i noticed a huge imporvement in shadow detail after doing the last updates.
post #2500 of 2662
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Originally Posted by rveras View Post

AFAIK the BH200 sends PC level video signal (0 to 255) instead of the normal video level (16 to 234) which could be the source of your problem depending on what your TV is expecting. Does your TV has a black level setting (no talking about brightness control)? My Panasonic TV has a Light ( video level) and Dark (PC level) setting for blacks. Other TV use names such as Normal (video level) and Enhanced (PC level). Check your TV manual.

There is an option for black levels in the BH200, the default is Video levels!
post #2501 of 2662
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Originally Posted by djos View Post

There is an option for black levels in the BH200, the default is Video levels!

It is only affects the component video output no the HDMI out.
post #2502 of 2662
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Originally Posted by static14 View Post

Glen did you update the FW? i noticed a huge imporvement in shadow detail after doing the last updates.

Yep, I'm running June firmware and have the latest (0702) driver installed. Do you have QDEO "on", or are you set to "default" in the user settings?
post #2503 of 2662
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Originally Posted by rveras View Post

AFAIK the BH200 sends PC level video signal (0 to 255) instead of the normal video level (16 to 234) which could be the source of your problem depending on what your TV is expecting. Does your TV has a black level setting (no talking about brightness control)? My Panasonic TV has a Light ( video level) and Dark (PC level) setting for blacks. Other TV use names such as Normal (video level) and Enhanced (PC level). Check your TV manual.

The Bh200 doesn't send PC levels to my JVC RS1.
post #2504 of 2662
I have just purchased the BH200 and I'm getting it today But would like to get some help with what's the best settings to use? Is there some features who definately should be turned on/off to get the best results?

Also is anyone using the BH200 with a HDMI splitter? Because I would like to have to be able to see movies without turning the receiver on, so if it's possible to use it with a HDMI splitter or use the component output together with HDMI without having to go in to the menu to enable it each time, that will do to?

My receiver is Onkyo SR-875 and Plasma is Pioneer 508XD.

Thanks in advance
post #2505 of 2662
I think my bh200 may have died...will not leave the Please Wait message on player (no output to display). Any ways to hard reset the device? Any troubleshooting suggestions?
post #2506 of 2662
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

I think my bh200 may have died...will not leave the Please Wait message on player (no output to display). Any ways to hard reset the device? Any troubleshooting suggestions?

Edit --> Per Craigslue's post below, it does sound like a bad mainboard.

See the following thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1052069
post #2507 of 2662
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

I think my bh200 may have died...will not leave the Please Wait message on player (no output to display). Any ways to hard reset the device? Any troubleshooting suggestions?

Do a search, please wait what does it mean. Sounds like it may have a bad main board!
post #2508 of 2662
Can anyone tell if the player needs air on the top, because I have to space on top between my TV bench and BH200, but have room on both sides and on the backside also?
I have spent so many money on this player and don't want to fry it.
post #2509 of 2662
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Originally Posted by Bjur View Post

Can anyone tell if the player needs air on the top, because I have to space on top between my TV bench and BH200, but have room on both sides and on the backside also?
I have spent so many money on this player and don't want to fry it.

Simple: if the unit has slots/vents in the top surface of the housing, then you should allow air space above it. If not, it's likely depending solely on the internal fan to remove hot air from inside the unit.

I don't remember OTTOMH if my BH200 has holes on top or not!
post #2510 of 2662
No holes on top
post #2511 of 2662
My fan seems to barely blow any air, but the unit seems to be fine-- is it just a slow fan?
post #2512 of 2662
I chose true-hd on one of my hd-dvd's ,but I don't see the sign on the player or my onkyo sr-605.....what's up with that?
post #2513 of 2662
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Originally Posted by tbase1 View Post

I chose true-hd on one of my hd-dvd's ,but I don't see the sign on the player or my onkyo sr-605.....what's up with that?

Well, what's up with that would depend on what's up with your BH200 settings

(I.e. if you are sending the signal bitstream via HDMI you should see the light, if you are sending the signal PCM via HDMI you will not see the light, but you will hear the soundtrack...hopefully this post will help you 'see the light' )

Of course if you aren't using HDMI for your signal, you will never see the light.
post #2514 of 2662
Maybe it's me ,but in the audio menu there's no bitstream option ,so now I'll really confused how you guys send bitstream via HDMI.
post #2515 of 2662
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Originally Posted by tbase1 View Post

Maybe it's me ,but in the audio menu there's no bitstream option ,so now I'll really confused how you guys send bitstream via HDMI.

I'm not familiar with your receiver but if it's capable of decoding True-HD, I believe that the 200's audio option should be set to Primary Pass-Thru. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, my receiver doesn't decode True so I set mine to PCM Multi-Channel.

Mike T
post #2516 of 2662
update. I did some minor tweaks to make a fair comparison with the bh200 and at first it still had a dark picture with qdeo on or off but the picture was still sharp. The next day I threw a few discs at it thinking I was going to have to maybe tweak some more but lo and behold the darkness it was showing before was gone. Qdeo on or off didn't matter. The down side is it appears it may have lost some of that sharpness especially with sd dvd's. I also noticed that during playback of sd the colors appeared as if something was "stepping" them up and down the scale. red shift, green shift, blue shift. It was subtle but noticable. I don't want to have to shoot this machine down. The features it has are perfect for my situation. I really want this player to work but I am getting a little leary of this twitchtyness. That is why I started my first post with the question of wether or not this player might be a bum unit from stock. Because other owners don't seem to be experiencing these problems. As for audio I haven't encountered any problems but I am using the spdif out.
post #2517 of 2662
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Originally Posted by Airwrench View Post

update. I did some minor tweaks to make a fair comparison with the bh200 and at first it still had a dark picture with qdeo on or off but the picture was still sharp. The next day I threw a few discs at it thinking I was going to have to maybe tweak some more but lo and behold the darkness it was showing before was gone. Qdeo on or off didn't matter. The down side is it appears it may have lost some of that sharpness especially with sd dvd's. I also noticed that during playback of sd the colors appeared as if something was "stepping" them up and down the scale. red shift, green shift, blue shift. It was subtle but noticable. I don't want to have to shoot this machine down. The features it has are perfect for my situation. I really want this player to work but I am getting a little leary of this twitchtyness. That is why I started my first post with the question of wether or not this player might be a bum unit from stock. Because other owners don't seem to be experiencing these problems. As for audio I haven't encountered any problems but I am using the spdif out.


Sounds like the LG does not pass BTB to your TV through HDMI. Try using component out to your tv instead of HDMI. If the issue goes away using component it may be a compatability issue with your hdmi input of the TV and the player. This is very common with people using HDMI to DVI cables. I suspect since your TV is a crt it is a bit older and their may be some issues with the HDMI.
post #2518 of 2662
Thanks for the info. I'll try it and see if it makes a difference
post #2519 of 2662
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Originally Posted by mike-tee View Post

I'm not familiar with your receiver but if it's capable of decoding True-HD, I believe that the 200's audio option should be set to Primary Pass-Thru. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, my receiver doesn't decode True so I set mine to PCM Multi-Channel.

Mike T

Set to primary pass-thru - that delivers the bitstream via the HDMI (your receiver must be able to decode the audio)

I've set my 200 to 720p - my tv's native resolution and have eliminated the drop outs - amazing

I also sent ANOTHER e-mail to LG regarding the "Bond" issue - anybody heard anything on that?
post #2520 of 2662
Supposedly working on a firmware update...
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