Let's talk Next-Gen videocards

The 8800GT coming out at the end of this week isn't exactly next gen if you ask me. It won't best the 8800GTX in performance.

ATI has their 3xxx product coming out Nov 15. http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3739&Itemid=1

I am also in the market for a new video card. I've decided to wait until Black Friday, as by then we'll have reviews on the 8800GT and the new ATI card.

It's just there refresh with new optimized cores, not a whole new next gen card like probably geforce 9 series or radeon crazy next name series.

Just like how nvidia came out with the 7800 and then 7900 later, same will happen in november for both nvidia and ati for there geforce 8 series and ati HD series respectively. Maybe faster, but probably cheaper manufacturing cost for them and mostly mainstream refreshes.

Tell ya the truth, if they did, it doesn't even matter since the features won't be used for another 5-6 years i would say. By then, you'll be using a newer card anyway, but i think they are. Just look at direct 9, it was released 5 years ago and they are just squeezing the best out of it.

Also, unless your really looking for that extra boost in performance, ati and nvidias cards are matched up pretty well and you can't really choose a worse one over the other.

ATI is DirectX 10.1 (See http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3735&Itemid=1 )
Nvidia is not (See http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3741&Itemid=1 )


But as Joseph4469 suggested, Direct X 10.1 and even 10 probably shouldn't be a factor. Most of the games that have come out so far take a large performance hit on DX10 vs DX9 and provide negligible quality differences. That may change when some of the built from ground up games come out, but my bet is that it will take a long while before DX10 is a major factor.

I personally was leaning towards the NVidia 8800 GT. It is supposed to be a pretty good OC, and the performance, power, and heat are all much better than the older GTS and GTX cards. Plus with EVGA step up, you can upgrade your card to a next gen model if they come out within 90days. (There are some rumors of a NVidia next gen card in Jan 08).

However, the ATI is looking like it might be a good deal as well. Hence, I'm just gonna wait until after both cards are out and some reviews are in.

HL2 ep 2, and Team fortress is running well enough for me at 720p. I really would like to play them at 1080p, but my current vid card can't quite handle it.

The 8800GT is suppose to replace the 8800GTS 320. Its perf is better then all the 8800GTS's but not as good as the GTX or Ultra. The 8800GT's will come in two flavors 256 and 512 memeory.

Nvidia will not have GTX/Ultra replacement until after ATI has release their next gen card (maybe in 08) since they don't really need an upgrade since ATI is non competative in the high end right now.

Anybody know rough pricing for the upcoming cards?

Supposed to be about $250 for NVidia 8800 GT 512mg version.
I heard about the same for ATI's new card.

If the 8800GT is really $250 and the initial performance preview is correct then it will most likely be my next card. Another bonus is the reduced wattage so I don't have to upgrade my power supply. But, I highly doubt this is the price given that the 8800GTS is slightly more expensive and is not even close to it in performance.

From a rumor on another site........they say that the new ATI card should not be named with a 3 series moniker because it does not have new architecture, just higher clock speeds. Time will tell I suppose.

So far DX10 = "the big lie".

I think i'll wait and see what ATi has to offer. if they prove they can still deliver I'm getting an X38 mobo and x-fire a pair.

8800GT reviews and benchmarks look very good. The card is a great deal. Unfortunately, after playing the Crysis demo, I could never justify buying a card that would cry trying to run it in high detail.

It's not supposed to.