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post #1501 of 1575
I've watched Tron Legacy in native 3D on my VW60 ...

post #1502 of 1575
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Originally Posted by YONEXSP View Post

Any update on your shootout with the 60?

Sorry,

VW85, still hasn't arrived!
post #1503 of 1575
I guess this thread is surely fading away.

I thought I was "done" with tuning my own vw60 but still make adjustments regularly as the bulb ages.

The setting I last posted would crush blacks horribly now that my bulb has settled more.

I still use an eye1lt with avs709 and HCFR. With some touch up from image director.

The thread may fade as more users move onto newer solutions. I know for myself that I'll tweak every 200 or so hours and I'm certain paying for calibration would be pointless as there is need for touch up as the bulb ages.

-Brian
post #1504 of 1575
I hope this thread continues, as I just got my b-stock unit from AVS a few months ago, with under 500 hours on the unit.

I understand many will be moving on, but it's head and shoulders above any of my previous units, and I'm thrilled!
post #1505 of 1575
Still love my vw60 and have no intention to replace yet, bought a spare bulb recently even
post #1506 of 1575
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

I guess this thread is surely fading away.

I thought I was "done" with tuning my own vw60 but still make adjustments regularly as the bulb ages.



-Brian

Do you ever see the purple, glowish, splotchy areas in SOME black areas on SOME Blurays? Even though I'm calibrated, and whether I use the calibrated Gamma or factory set Gamma 2 (which I prefer), I still see them here and there. I think one of us here tried to get Sony to address this with factory service, to no avail if I recall.
post #1507 of 1575
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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

Do you ever see the purple, glowish, splotchy areas in SOME black areas on SOME Blurays? Even though I'm calibrated, and whether I use the calibrated Gamma or factory set Gamma 2 (which I prefer), I still see them here and there. I think one of us here tried to get Sony to address this with factory service, to no avail if I recall.

I think sometimes the blotches may be just attributable to the encoding, despite myself having witnessed a lot of this in my time (still) owning this projector. Im at a stage now where with some user's ID files, Im getting a more than acceptable image with less of the blotches ruining the experience for me. However an opportunity to upgrade to a VW80 came round last week for a reasonable price (although still a lot for an older PJ), and I nearly committed. But the inability to view beforehand scared me off. I didnt want to buy effectively the same issue all over again.
So I reckon the VW60 will do me for another year or two at least. Ive been using it very frequently at the moment, which is a GOOD thing!
post #1508 of 1575
Necro-bump.

I just got an eye one pro (cheap, used, EBay).

So after 4000 hours and 3 lamps, I've only begun to tweak!

Long live the Black Pearl.
post #1509 of 1575
Still love mine too, a lot less hours, but I just got an i1 pro and chromapure package to tinker with too
post #1510 of 1575
Hey,

I'd be interested how you do with Chromapure.

Do you use a video processor?

Without one... it still may be possible to adjust gamut... I don't know if it's possible to get too far though. So far I've only tuned gamma and greyscale using my i1 and my Display2 calibrated via my i1.

And the results I have so far leave me wanting to stop tuning for a while and just bask in the beauty.

I'm sure I'll get into gamut though soon.... Just not sure how adjustable it will be without a processor which isn't in the cards for me anytime soon.

-Brian
post #1511 of 1575
I still havnt had a chance to play with the meter and software yet. Had to buy an old lappy off eBay with serial out. Might get a chance in the next week or so. Will definitely have to learn when I put the new bulb in though. Looking forward to tinkering though.
post #1512 of 1575
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Originally Posted by MarkH View Post

I think sometimes the blotches may be just attributable to the encoding, despite myself having witnessed a lot of this in my time (still) owning this projector. Im at a stage now where with some user's ID files, Im getting a more than acceptable image with less of the blotches ruining the experience for me. However an opportunity to upgrade to a VW80 came round last week for a reasonable price (although still a lot for an older PJ), and I nearly committed. But the inability to view beforehand scared me off. I didnt want to buy effectively the same issue all over again.
So I reckon the VW60 will do me for another year or two at least. Ive been using it very frequently at the moment, which is a GOOD thing!

The more and more I watch blu-ray on the VW60, It seems to me the issue is disc related. I watched "Underworld Awakening" last week and the blacks were absolutely stunning, with great detail and no splotching or purple glow. Today I watched the "The Thing" and there's the issue again.

BTW, I'm an "Underworld" fan, but this one was a bit of a letdown for me. OTOH, "The Thing" was better than I expected, with some pretty great special effects.
post #1513 of 1575
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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

The more and more I watch blu-ray on the VW60, It seems to me the issue is disc related. I watched "Underworld Awakening" last week and the blacks were absolutely stunning, with great detail and no splotching or purple glow. Today I watched the "The Thing" and there's the issue again.

BTW, I'm an "Underworld" fan, but this one was a bit of a letdown for me. OTOH, "The Thing" was better than I expected, with some pretty great special effects.

Was The Thing the original or the recent remake?
post #1514 of 1575
Just clicked 800 hrs on my first bulb still. Just turned the bulb to high - lovely pic again. I agree that the video contributes to the splotches, but I don't see them on any of my other tvs, from old hd rear pros to brand new lcd's - I think it's probably ****** processing in the Sony in those extreme cases
post #1515 of 1575
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Originally Posted by MarkH View Post

Was The Thing the original or the recent remake?

The recent remake. Not Oscar material, but enjoyable for it's type of movie.
post #1516 of 1575
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Originally Posted by ausdavep View Post

Just clicked 800 hrs on my first bulb still. Just turned the bulb to high - lovely pic again. I agree that the video contributes to the splotches, but I don't see them on any of my other tvs, from old hd rear pros to brand new lcd's - I think it's probably ****** processing in the Sony in those extreme cases

I wonder if the Darbee Darblet video processor might have some positive effect on this? Don't know why I'd think it would, but it sure would be nice.
post #1517 of 1575
Got word of posts in this thread.

I have changed my VW60 Bulb twice now and I'm about ready to put in my last new one. I have about 1500 hours on this bulb.

I haven't watched much 3D on the VW60 lately because last Black Friday I bought a plasma 3DTV and I mostly watch my 3D on that.

However, I watched Underworld Awakening in 3D on my VW60 and was amazed. I, personally, loved the movie. I actually think I'll watch it again tonight. IT was AMAZING!!!

-Brian
post #1518 of 1575
I dont know that an external processor would help TBH, I think its something thats occurring within the PJ itself to cause/accentuate this, whereas other tvs/technologies either smooth it out better, or process it properly. There is not a single reason the VW60 should be displaying square blocks on the screen in certain dark scenes. Anyway, although I dont use mine a lot, I still love it.
post #1519 of 1575
You know, I haven't seen the blotchy black problem in a long time.

It could be because I've disabled a lot of the pjs processing.

I have disabled the iris, rcp, and gamma correction.

I only calibrate for grey scale (including gamma but only by setting the high and low of the scale.)

I'm still in love with the results. I was watching true blood today and there was plenty of deep blacks and zero banding or blocking or noise.

I am helping a friend of mine shop for a new pj, but I still love my old vw60.
post #1520 of 1575
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

You know, I haven't seen the blotchy black problem in a long time.

It could be because I've disabled a lot of the pjs processing.

I have disabled the iris, rcp, and gamma correction.

I only calibrate for grey scale (including gamma but only by setting the high and low of the scale.)

I'm still in love with the results. I was watching true blood today and there was plenty of deep blacks and zero banding or blocking or noise.

I am helping a friend of mine shop for a new pj, but I still love my old vw60.

The RCP and Iris are off on mine. Chuck Williams calibrated it with both off. He set the Gamma using Image Director, but I think I prefer the Gamma 2 setting.

I seem to get the issue more dependant on a particular movie than anything else. As I mentioned, "Underworld Awakening" had beautiful, deep blacks with plenty of detail, while "The Thing" had the purple glowish blacks.

Regardless, I'm still enjoying my Black Pearl. More than likely I'll be using it till the next level of projection technology moves us past lamps. That is unless I fall into a trunkload of cash somehow.
post #1521 of 1575
I tend to agree with Chuck. He is a master.
post #1522 of 1575
Interesting to read others thoughts on their VW60's and the contrast drop, as per this specific thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1436366/sony-lcos-panel-degradation-5-yrs-constant-use/0_100

My vw60 still only has around 7-800 hours on the first bulb, and barely gets used, but some other higher usage ones might have seen something.
post #1523 of 1575
Currently I only have component video input to my VW60. I'm FINALLY about to add HDMI for my Blu-ray. Last nite, before connecting the HDMI, I pressed the "input" button on the remote, expecting to see the screen go black as the projector switched to the next (empty) input but there was no change; I was still viewing what was obviously the component video feed from my cable box. What am I missing?

Thanks,

Jack
post #1524 of 1575
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Originally Posted by jwhart View Post

Currently I only have component video input to my VW60. I'm FINALLY about to add HDMI for my Blu-ray. Last nite, before connecting the HDMI, I pressed the "input" button on the remote, expecting to see the screen go black as the projector switched to the next (empty) input but there was no change; I was still viewing what was obviously the component video feed from my cable box. What am I missing?
Thanks,
Jack

I believe there's a setting in the VW60 to auto detect an active input.
post #1525 of 1575
Also try the other HDMI connector in case one failed.

GL
post #1526 of 1575
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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

I believe there's a setting in the VW60 to auto detect an active input.

Yes,... Check the auto input setting and try another cable...let us know what finally works
post #1527 of 1575
Thanks guys; auto input was the answer.
post #1528 of 1575
Bulbs, anywhere to get a good deal on a Sony oem?

Is there a generic one that is decent? I bought an eBay bulb once for 100 bucks on a Mitsubishi dlp and it was dimmer out of the box than e 3000 hour bulb it replaced.


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post #1529 of 1575
I just ordered a new Sony lamp from AVS. Good service and very reliable (not the cheapest, but I know what I am getting, along with the knowledgable advice).

I have had the Black Pearl for over four years, projecting onto a 110" Stewart Firehawk G3 screen. I noticed recently after 1000 hours on my latest lamp always running it on high mode, that the color was not as deep (seemed a bit washed out, but still good), so for optimum watching I decided to get the new lamp and hold onto the current one as a backup. With my blu ray copy of Lawrence of Arabia arriving next week, I want the best experience possible.

How many hours are others getting on their lamp?

Any thoughts out there on running the Black Pearl on Hi vs. Lo mode? I have a windowless room, so light is not an issue.

Thanks.
post #1530 of 1575
1200 on low, getting a bit dim with light leakage during the day.
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