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post #901 of 1688
Looking for advise... I have a Sony KV-32HS510 with the 6 blink issue. I've read thru many posts about the chip replacement, so I ordered some to give that a try. When they arrive, I'd like to get going on it. I've had my TV unplugged for week, and I'm wondering if I can do the chip replacement without having to disconnect any wires from the D board. I've cut the plastic support to expose both the chips on the bottom side of the D board. I have quite a bit of desoldering experience, but just not on a TV repair, so I have some concern about any high voltage remaining in the circuit that I should be aware of. I though I read in one post that if the TV is unplugged for approx 4 hours all the caps should be dischaged, but most posts talk about removing the D board before replacing the chips. Anyone have some good advise for a TV repair rookie....Thanks
post #902 of 1688
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Originally Posted by DB1342 View Post

Looking for advise... I have a Sony KV-32HS510 with the 6 blink issue. I've read thru many posts about the chip replacement, so I ordered some to give that a try. When they arrive, I'd like to get going on it. I've had my TV unplugged for week, and I'm wondering if I can do the chip replacement without having to disconnect any wires from the D board. I've cut the plastic support to expose both the chips on the bottom side of the D board. I have quite a bit of desoldering experience, but just not on a TV repair, so I have some concern about any high voltage remaining in the circuit that I should be aware of. I though I read in one post that if the TV is unplugged for approx 4 hours all the caps should be dischaged, but most posts talk about removing the D board before replacing the chips. Anyone have some good advise for a TV repair rookie....Thanks

You absolutely do not have to remove the two wires from the D-Board Flyback to replace the ICs. One method is to rotate the D-Board up into the "Service Position". That is described in detail earlier in this thread. (I'm sorry but I don't have the page number for that discussion. Perhaps another forum member can point to it.)

On the risk of an electrical shock, just be careful what you touch and you should have no problems.

Since you have a lot of desoldering experience the repair should go very smoothly. For my repair, desoldering was the most difficult step.

Bob
post #903 of 1688
Thank you for the advise Bob, and I appreciate the quick response. I was very happy when I went to the mail box today to find the chips I ordered from ebay. So, with your wisdom and all the other very helpful, knowledgable posts in this forum, I hope to have our TV working again here shortly. Hopefully I can report back with another success story.
Thank you!!!
post #904 of 1688
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Originally Posted by DB1342 View Post

Thank you for the advise Bob, and I appreciate the quick response. I was very happy when I went to the mail box today to find the chips I ordered from ebay. So, with your wisdom and all the other very helpful, knowledgable posts in this forum, I hope to have our TV working again here shortly. Hopefully I can report back with another success story.
Thank you!!!

You're welcome.

If you do disconnect anything, take photos and/or label the connectors. That will simplify reassembly. If you're using sockets, test fit the ICs before installing the sockets. Sometimes the IC legs need to be bent slightly and that's a lot easier to do before the sockets are installed.

Also, I posted some details regarding my repair over on the Agoraquest.com Television Troubleshooting Forum here:

http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic...._page_number=7

(My User ID over there is "BobF")

There are also many excellent tips posted by other forum members in that thread.

Good luck!

Bob
post #905 of 1688
It sounds like your using the fix it from the bottom method, so you don't have to disconnect any wires. I've done it a few times and found the best way is to pull the tray and clamp it in place,it's easier to get to the front chip, then tilt the tv forward onto a table or the stand with it resting on pillows. Pull up a chair, bright light and magnifying glass. A good tip I read here was as you are de-soldering and soldering turn off your front work light and put a bright light behind the board to check and see if you removed all solder and too make sure there's no pin holes after soldering. also the magnifying glass really helped me a lot, but I don't see too well, good luck
post #906 of 1688
I have the Sony KV34XBR910...had it for 6 years now. A few weeks ago my parents did some home renovations and my windows were left open which caused a lot of renovation debris and dust to fall into my room and of course into the TV which was located right underneath that window...I saw that and knew this was going to happen. Anyway I have the six blinks and will attempt repair on my own thanks to this site. Just had a few questions though

1-It seems there is some debate as to putting the tv on its face or removing the D board. Honestly I think it would be easier to remove the board but how much other stuff do you have to disconnect to do this? If it's just a matter of taking out the screws then fine..but there are a lot of little cables and connectors that strech across the circuit board that I would rather not touch! If anyone has a link to pictures of the D board and the A board I would like to see them cause right now I'm looking at the back of the tv and there seem to be two giant circuit boards..but from pictures provided in earlier posts the "D board fit in the palm of a hand.
2-These IC chips 8002 and 6501..are they the same chip? The numbers match up on each one (MCZ3001D) so am I just ordering two of the same chips or are they different.
3-I do not use Ebay and haven't seen any links to reputable online stores that would sell these chips..from what I read some people bought defective chips, would rather jsut spend a few extra dollars on decent quality chips, anyone have any suggestions.
4-Small chance of this but since I opened up the tv there is a lot of dust and sut in it..what are the chances that this is what is making the tv fail? If I blow the dust out is there any chance that that will slove the problem? If I do blow the dust out, do I have to just buy cans and cans of compressed air or can I use a shop vac set to blow without damaging the components?
post #907 of 1688
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Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

I have the Sony KV34XBR910...had it for 6 years now. A few weeks ago my parents did some home renovations and my windows were left open which caused a lot of renovation debris and dust to fall into my room and of course into the TV which was located right underneath that window...I saw that and knew this was going to happen. Anyway I have the six blinks and will attempt repair on my own thanks to this site. Just had a few questions though

1-It seems there is some debate as to putting the tv on its face or removing the D board. Honestly I think it would be easier to remove the board but how much other stuff do you have to disconnect to do this? If it's just a matter of taking out the screws then fine..but there are a lot of little cables and connectors that strech across the circuit board that I would rather not touch! If anyone has a link to pictures of the D board and the A board I would like to see them cause right now I'm looking at the back of the tv and there seem to be two giant circuit boards..but from pictures provided in earlier posts the "D board fit in the palm of a hand.
2-These IC chips 8002 and 6501..are they the same chip? The numbers match up on each one (MCZ3001D) so am I just ordering two of the same chips or are they different.
3-I do not use Ebay and haven't seen any links to reputable online stores that would sell these chips..from what I read some people bought defective chips, would rather jsut spend a few extra dollars on decent quality chips, anyone have any suggestions.
4-Small chance of this but since I opened up the tv there is a lot of dust and sut in it..what are the chances that this is what is making the tv fail? If I blow the dust out is there any chance that that will slove the problem? If I do blow the dust out, do I have to just buy cans and cans of compressed air or can I use a shop vac set to blow without damaging the components?

i placed the tv on it's face(with a blanket under the screen) and removed the screws and a few wires,which i took pictures of and taped an i.d. of location to each.i screwed up a bit 'cause 2 connectors on the right bottom(looking from rear)are exactly the same(one has a blue magic marker line and one has a green line)i did manage to connect them properly (i think) as the tv works properly.on ebay just check the feedback and you'll see in the feedback that people bought the chips for this very same reason and had success.i blew the dust out with my compressor.the entire board lifts out from 2 clips on the bottom.be carefull when you lift out the board(for better access) as the plastic tray holding the board is slightly fragile.the 2 chips are the same but could be newer/improved models.take a "multitool" with a small saw on it and CAREFULLY cut the plastic support under 1 of the chips.i also removed the wire with that rubber grommet and grounded it to remove any left over electricity(the rubber grommet connected to the tube.)
there is a service manual for this t.v. FREE on some sites...
post #908 of 1688
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Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

I have the Sony KV34XBR910...had it for 6 years now. A few weeks ago my parents did some home renovations and my windows were left open which caused a lot of renovation debris and dust to fall into my room and of course into the TV which was located right underneath that window...I saw that and knew this was going to happen. Anyway I have the six blinks and will attempt repair on my own thanks to this site. Just had a few questions though

1-It seems there is some debate as to putting the tv on its face or removing the D board. Honestly I think it would be easier to remove the board but how much other stuff do you have to disconnect to do this? If it's just a matter of taking out the screws then fine..but there are a lot of little cables and connectors that strech across the circuit board that I would rather not touch! If anyone has a link to pictures of the D board and the A board I would like to see them cause right now I'm looking at the back of the tv and there seem to be two giant circuit boards..but from pictures provided in earlier posts the "D board fit in the palm of a hand.

2-These IC chips 8002 and 6501..are they the same chip? The numbers match up on each one (MCZ3001D) so am I just ordering two of the same chips or are they different.

3-I do not use Ebay and haven't seen any links to reputable online stores that would sell these chips..from what I read some people bought defective chips, would rather jsut spend a few extra dollars on decent quality chips, anyone have any suggestions.
4-Small chance of this but since I opened up the tv there is a lot of dust and sut in it..what are the chances that this is what is making the tv fail? If I blow the dust out is there any chance that that will slove the problem? If I do blow the dust out, do I have to just buy cans and cans of compressed air or can I use a shop vac set to blow without damaging the components?

1. I would pick a method that you feel comfortable with. When I repaired my KV-36XBR400, I removed the slide-out chassis which holds the D-Board. But this required the disconnection of a red wire from the D-Board mounted flyback transformer (FBT) and the yoke-mounted C-Board. Disconnecting the wires from the flyback can be a challenge and I ended up cutting that wire and splicing it back together later. If I needed to repeat the repair today, I would leave the TV upright and just rotate the D-Board up into the "Service Position". There's good discussion of that method earlier in this thread.

Regarding your D-Board size question, I'm not familiar with your KV-34XBR910 but the D-Board is typically large. The D-Board in my set is about the size of a PC motherboard.

2. The 8002 and 6501 ICs are both MCZ3001D ICs.

3. You can buy high quality replacement ICs on eBay. As toyboy09 wrote, just check the seller's feeback. The ICs in my set were purchased on eBay and they're still working perfectly after three years. Also consider the MCZ3001DB variant, which some feel might be an improved version.

4. I suppose your problem might be correctable by cleaning out the dust but I don't recall reading any reports where that has worked. But your case might be different because of the construction environment circumstances. I used an upright vacuum with a small attachment wand to clean the dust out of my TV. So that can be done safely.

Also, was the TV plugged in during the construction work? If so, maybe the failure was actually due to a voltage fluctuation due to the use of power tools or electrical re-wiring.

Finally, did you try just unplugging the TV for a while to see if that fixed things? Sometimes that simple step can reset things.

Good Luck!

Bob
post #909 of 1688
Hi, I'm new to this forum. I just picked up a supposedly working KV-34HS510 today only to find out that there's no video and I get the 6 blink problem. I've read some of this thread and know that replacing the two MCZ3001D ICs (IC8002 or IC6501) on the D board has worked for a lot of people. However, I just found the service manual for my model and it says that 6 blinks refers to:

LOW +B OCP/OVP (overcurrent/overvoltage)

and the probable causes are:

+5 line overloaded (A, B, M boards)
+5 line is shorted (A, B, M boards)
IC504 is faulty (A board)

Given that there's no mention of the D board, can someone please explain the discrepancy between what the service manual says and the solution that has worked for many on this forum? Also, does someone familiar with the service manual know if there are more explicit instructions in it regarding how to fix this issue?

Thanks in advance.
post #910 of 1688
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Originally Posted by superguppy View Post

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I just picked up a supposedly working KV-34HS510 today only to find out that there's no video and I get the 6 blink problem. I've read some of this thread and know that replacing the two MCZ3001D ICs (IC8002 or IC6501) on the D board has worked for a lot of people. However, I just found the service manual for my model and it says that 6 blinks refers to:

LOW +B OCP/OVP (overcurrent/overvoltage)

and the probable causes are:

+5 line overloaded (A, B, M boards)
+5 line is shorted (A, B, M boards)
IC504 is faulty (A board)

Given that there's no mention of the D board, can someone please explain the discrepancy between what the service manual says and the solution that has worked for many on this forum? Also, does someone familiar with the service manual know if there are more explicit instructions in it regarding how to fix this issue?

Thanks in advance.

Does your blink sequence repeat? In other words, does the standby light blink six times, pause, and blink six times again? If it doesn't repeat it's not a diagnostic code.

If it does repeat, the code is just intended to point an experienced service technician towards a probable cause. But that doesn't mean that the actual problem isn't something that's not listed, such a failed MCZ3001D IC.

MCZ3001D IC problems are so common many people will just try that first.
post #911 of 1688
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Originally Posted by RobertF View Post

Does your blink sequence repeat? In other words, does the standby light blink six times, pause, and blink six times again? If it doesn't repeat it's not a diagnostic code.

Yes, my blink sequence does repeat. 6 blinks, 3 second pause, 6 blinks etc.
post #912 of 1688
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Originally Posted by superguppy View Post

Given that there's no mention of the D board, can someone please explain the discrepancy between what the service manual says and the solution that has worked for many on this forum? Also, does someone familiar with the service manual know if there are more explicit instructions in it regarding how to fix this issue?

Hi there

The cause of diagnostic codes is rarely comprehensively documented. The D board is the TV's power supply. It is not mentioned in the failure description because the D board itself is the source of the diagnostic failure. The possible failures listed for 6 blinks are external to the power supply that should be checked if the power supply was fully operational.

Be careful in reading TV service manuals. The intended audience is an experienced TV repair technician. There are minimal troubleshooting guides and replacement sequences, unlike auto repair guides.

The most "explicit instructions in ... how to fix this issue" are in this thread. In this thread a professional TV repair tech reports that his shop always replaces these two chips for the 6 or 7 blinks, and get a 90% repair success.

Regards
post #913 of 1688
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

I have the Sony KV34XBR910...had it for 6 years now. A few weeks ago my parents did some home renovations and my windows were left open which caused a lot of renovation debris and dust to fall into my room and of course into the TV which was located right underneath that window...I saw that and knew this was going to happen. Anyway I have the six blinks and will attempt repair on my own thanks to this site. Just had a few questions though

1-It seems there is some debate as to putting the tv on its face or removing the D board. Honestly I think it would be easier to remove the board but how much other stuff do you have to disconnect to do this? If it's just a matter of taking out the screws then fine..but there are a lot of little cables and connectors that strech across the circuit board that I would rather not touch! If anyone has a link to pictures of the D board and the A board I would like to see them cause right now I'm looking at the back of the tv and there seem to be two giant circuit boards..but from pictures provided in earlier posts the "D board fit in the palm of a hand.
2-These IC chips 8002 and 6501..are they the same chip? The numbers match up on each one (MCZ3001D) so am I just ordering two of the same chips or are they different.
3-I do not use Ebay and haven't seen any links to reputable online stores that would sell these chips..from what I read some people bought defective chips, would rather jsut spend a few extra dollars on decent quality chips, anyone have any suggestions.
4-Small chance of this but since I opened up the tv there is a lot of dust and sut in it..what are the chances that this is what is making the tv fail? If I blow the dust out is there any chance that that will slove the problem? If I do blow the dust out, do I have to just buy cans and cans of compressed air or can I use a shop vac set to blow without damaging the components?

As to where to buy from? I would try TSM (Tristatemodule.com). If the web site don't show instock just call them, they do have them even if it does not show. I am replacing them in a friends TV here this week and had gone to them before and the website didn't show in stock, but when I called they said they just didn't have it updated recently (but had like hundreds in stock).
Also, since I am replacing them in his, I will make sure to take pics and if you can wait a little longer I will post them. I remove the D-board and set it in an upright position (for his though it wouldn't be on the matching stand. but you can do this on the stand, if that is what you have?). I will take pics of all the necessary wires/connectors to disconnect and show positions. But, keep in mind that yours might be slightly different (minor differences I am sure. Most these TVs are very similar inside).

Be around Thursday or Friday when I get the pics on here.

I hope these pics will help others, too.
post #914 of 1688
Here is some pics of my method for the bottom repair in case you don't want to pull the board out. this is the kv40xbr800 that I fixed last,ouch my back still hurts. I was able to set it on it's front by myself but I don't recommend it for one this big,I also did my 36 inch this way.
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post #915 of 1688
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by superguppy View Post

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I just picked up a supposedly working KV-34HS510 today only to find out that there's no video and I get the 6 blink problem. I've read some of this thread and know that replacing the two MCZ3001D ICs (IC8002 or IC6501) on the D board has worked for a lot of people. However, I just found the service manual for my model and it says that 6 blinks refers to:

LOW +B OCP/OVP (overcurrent/overvoltage)

and the probable causes are:

+5 line overloaded (A, B, M boards)
+5 line is shorted (A, B, M boards)
IC504 is faulty (A board)

Given that there's no mention of the D board, can someone please explain the discrepancy between what the service manual says and the solution that has worked for many on this forum? Also, does someone familiar with the service manual know if there are more explicit instructions in it regarding how to fix this issue?

Thanks in advance.

To give it in say "laymen" terms.
Basically what RobertF and blue_z are saying is that....
If the MCZ3001D chips were working to their specs then the problem would be what the manual says. BUT, since these chips have a high failure rate (Sony nor any manufacture of electronics would have that in their manual, unless it is an updated version where they may mention it and suggest another solution. but being that it is electronics and is out of date within a year they more then likely won't update them that way). Now I am sure when Sony was making the TV and the manual for, they were sitting there thinking....well what if this chip bad? should it give a separate code?....NO! they will assume that what they use will always work the way it was intended to. OK, with that said. These chips are like middle men in the chain of events to come up with the troubleshooting circuitry's displayed problem to why the TV will not come on for you. In other words, if the chips fail (burn up, short, whatever will cause them not to be working properly) they will give a false reading to the monitoring circuit and in turn the monitoring circuit will think it is the problem of what that input is telling it. And to the monitoring circuit it is a LOW +B OCP/OVP (overcurrent/overvoltage) problem.
Those (MCZ3001D) chips are the link between the LOW +B OCP/OVP and the monitoring circuit that gives the codes to let a repairman locate where to look for a solution. Any repairman will tell you that is just a starting point to troubleshoot and is not the actual problem. Sometimes it is just the fault of the monitoring "chip" (yes it is most likely another chip that looks at all these different inputs and says "check here for solution").
It took me a lot of searching to find someone with some knowledge of (and experience with) these MCZ chips going bad. I was much like you when first searching, got the manual and it said this or that was problem. But after reading and getting guys like RobertF and JDRE with background on this issue. I just went and replaced and to my surprise "wala" WORKS!
Now! true! yours could be the LOW+B problem? We can't say for 100% fact it is the MCZ chips. But, with most it is the chips and not to many around said the power circuitry failed like the manual says it should be the fault. Which would you believe it to be?? That's the question you have to ask?

Sorry for the long post..Hope it helps though?
Thanks for everyone's support and input here.
post #916 of 1688
my sony wega 32hd just failed and is giving the 6 blinks
at first it was slow to power on but a few trys would come on
yesterday it took 2 hours of pressing on/off to finally come on
today nothing

as my skills at soldering are poor
and I have no tools to desolder
is there anyone in the miami area
who wants to make a few bucks
to replace the chips

or can recommend some who can do this repair

I am in south dade [cutler ridge/bay]
and can be reached at 305 252 3710 ask for ray
post #917 of 1688
next days update

sunday the set took about 2 hours of intermittent turning on and off
before finally coming on stayed on fine and returned on after being turned off

monday never did turn on all day long tryed unplugging no luck

tuesday turned on after a few trys turned off for 2 hours came back on

always 6 blinks when not turning on , I could hear the relays clicking

so is this a standard bad 18 pin chips story ??????
the set has never turned it's self off just fails to turn on
and will restart fine if it has been on [ still hot quick check on/off/on]
post #918 of 1688
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Originally Posted by nota View Post

next days update

sunday the set took about 2 hours of intermittent turning on and off
before finally coming on stayed on fine and returned on after being turned off

monday never did turn on all day long tryed unplugging no luck

tuesday turned on after a few trys turned off for 2 hours came back on

always 6 blinks when not turning on , I could hear the relays clicking

so is this a standard bad 18 pin chips story ??????
the set has never turned it's self off just fails to turn on
and will restart fine if it has been on [ still hot quick check on/off/on]

My 36 inch did that for awhile ,then I found this thread and went ahead and replaced the chips before it went off for good. that was the problem and has worked fine since then.
post #919 of 1688
I wonder if leaving the set on but on a blank channel would hurt it
as a temp measure intil I can get the chips and find someone to replace them
post #920 of 1688
someone earlier in the thread did that and he said it worked till the power was turned off, from what I remember it was OK. look back thru the thread and see what he said about it.
post #921 of 1688
Well I just got the actual chips and are now just waiting for the sockets to come..but I think tommorrow I'm going to start and attempt to remove the hopefully defective chips out of the tv. I'm thinking about running out to best buy for a digital camera to take pictures of how it looks before I actually take it out. Anyway just a few questions before I go ahead and do this.

Those brigde connectors that are in the middle of the right and left boards, are those just clips to hold the boards together, or do they serve a purpose like relaying infomation between the boards. I just wanted to know how much care I needed to use in removing them. Plus i hear that the chips are sometimes a pain to get into the sockets and need to be rolled or something..can I do this before I solder in the sockets just dry fit them, then remove and solder in the socket then put the chip back?
post #922 of 1688
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Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

.... Plus i hear that the chips are sometimes a pain to get into the sockets and need to be rolled or something..can I do this before I solder in the sockets just dry fit them, then remove and solder in the socket then put the chip back?

Yes, you can test fit and adjust the ICs legs before you install the sockets. In fact that's highly recommended.
post #923 of 1688
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

Those brigde connectors that are in the middle of the right and left boards, are those just clips to hold the boards together, or do they serve a purpose like relaying infomation between the boards. I just wanted to know how much care I needed to use in removing them. Plus i hear that the chips are sometimes a pain to get into the sockets and need to be rolled or something..can I do this before I solder in the sockets just dry fit them, then remove and solder in the socket then put the chip back?

Those are wire connectors (mostly power. ie: +15v,-15v,etc). They can be disconnected to allow the removal of either board. It is tricky but with a tiny screw driver and small fingers. Multiple screws and a couple clips (on the outside of board near the flyback trans and usually bad ICs) hold the board in place.

I haven't gotten into friends TV just yet to take pics, but plan on taken a bunch to show how I do it (I remove the D-board, to an extent).
post #924 of 1688
Ok just started trying to take out the board..I bought a small ratcheting screwdriver from sears for like 10 dollars which really helped with getting the screws out. Just can't seem to get these bridge clips out, any tips..maybe I'm overlooking a previous posting on how to open them. I managed to get the two on the top right of the board but that was after alot of stuggling. Is there an easy way to unclip them..not going to be able to fnaggle the other two like I did those, they're too close together. One more thing, the large grey "tower" looking object on the bottom left of the d board that has the wires running out with one of them going into the iron tub at top of screen..does that come out or I leave that be?
post #925 of 1688
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Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

Ok just started trying to take out the board..I bought a small ratcheting screwdriver from sears for like 10 dollars which really helped with getting the screws out. Just can't seem to get these bridge clips out, any tips..maybe I'm overlooking a previous posting on how to open them. I managed to get the two on the top right of the board but that was after alot of stuggling. Is there an easy way to unclip them..not going to be able to fnaggle the other two like I did those, they're too close together. One more thing, the large grey "tower" looking object on the bottom left of the d board that has the wires running out with one of them going into the iron tub at top of screen..does that come out or I leave that be?

The grey tower is the Flyback Transformer or FBT. The difficulty in removing the red wires has been the subject of much discussion. You can actually replace the ICs without disconnecting the wires. One method involves rotating the D-Board up into the service position. See Post #336 and those below it:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post15223748

Bob
post #926 of 1688
Oh man thanks for that..it helped a lot, black bridges have been disconnected and I am estactic to say that the d-board is now at 90 degrees and i can see where all the soldering needs to take place. Now just a few more questions...can I solder this at 90 degrees or will the sodler just run down the board and I see a few people were against the sockets so did the people who did use sockets have a higher fail rate than the non socket users or was it just a preference?

EDIT: I went ahead and attempted to desolder one of the chips..didn't come out as easy as I thought. Maybe the desoldering braid isn't getting hot enough with the 15 watt iron I bought? I think tommorrow I'm going to grab a cheap vachum pump from RS and try that. I ended up having to pull the chip out with a needle nose plier even after using the braid, just hope nothing else is getting damaged during all of this.
post #927 of 1688
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Originally Posted by mission76 View Post

Oh man thanks for that..it helped a lot, black bridges have been disconnected and I am estactic to say that the d-board is now at 90 degrees and i can see where all the soldering needs to take place. Now just a few more questions...can I solder this at 90 degrees or will the sodler just run down the board and I see a few people were against the sockets so did the people who did use sockets have a higher fail rate than the non socket users or was it just a preference?

EDIT: I went ahead and attempted to desolder one of the chips..didn't come out as easy as I thought. Maybe the desoldering braid isn't getting hot enough with the 15 watt iron I bought? I think tommorrow I'm going to grab a cheap vachum pump from RS and try that. I ended up having to pull the chip out with a needle nose plier even after using the braid, just hope nothing else is getting damaged during all of this.

You really don't want to apply force to pull the IC out. The very real risk is that you can pull up some of the PCB trace material and potentially ruin your chances of a repair. Be sure to keep cutting off the end of the braid that has solder in it and take your time.

Regarding the socket failure rate, I just haven't seen many reports of that. I've had zero problems with the sockets I installed three years ago. I think the sockets are more of a benefit to those less experienced with soldering and desoldering. I personally would use them again but I understand that some service technicians don't recommend them.
post #928 of 1688
My KV-32HS510 is alive again. This 5 year old TV had the 6 blink issue.
I replace both IC's 6501 & 8002 using sockets that I purchased from Ebay. I replaced both of them at the same time so I don't know which one, if not both were bad. Tried to take some pictures during the process to share, but my camera wouldn't focus in nearly as well as some of the pictures posted on this forum.
I repaired this by laying the TV face down and removing the back cover, it had been unplugged for a week, but I don't believe that amount of time is neccessary for the caps to discharge. Removing the rear cover exposes the bottom of the D board where I located the two IC's. I did not want to mess around with removing the D board at all, and with Bob's advise, I left it in place during the repair and didn't have to worry about any residual power remaining in the circuit. The only thing I needed to do before unsoldering was to remove the plastic support that covered part of one of the chips solder joints. I unsoldered the joints with a 40w iron and used a "solder sucker" (see attached). This worked great. A couple joints needed to be reheated to completely free the joints. I did this by using a pencil tip and the iron. While heating the lead, I gently wiggled the lead a bit while removing the heat. Then that lead was completely free. The chips came right out.
I then installed the sockets (with the new chips already installed) and resoldered them. Cleaned up the solder joints with a Q-tip and rubbing alchol to remove the the flux. Put the cover back on, plugged it in and success, the TV was working again. I did take the advise from rtmach to shine a light from the chip side to look for pin holes, and discovered a couple joints that needed touch up. So, for $10 I was able to repair this TV with the aid and experience of all the wonderful advise within this post. Maybe now with the money I saved on the repair, I can go get a better camera. Thank you all!!!!!!!! Doug
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post #929 of 1688
Mission76 Use 1/8 wide braid with 30 watt iron. Works fast. You want to see empty space around the pins, pins loose in the holes, then remove chip. The new chip may need to have the legs bent inward so they are vertical, not splayed outward. Good luck, hope to hear about success!

DB1342 Congratulations! Good tips. My 32HS510 has worked a year of regular use since its repair so far.
post #930 of 1688
I don't believe it....IT WORKED!!!!!!

Thanks so much to all those who posted on this topic and especially those like Rob, Mark, and JDRE who answered my stupid questions with the quickness! I can't believe it's actually working, and for basically 40 dollars! This site saved me at least 1500 on a new tv. Thanks again for all the help, this is now on my favorite list for web sites!!!!!!!!

But one more question...when I turn it on the standby button blinks like 10 times...between 5 and 7 the tv actually starts showing a picture, was that normal and I'm just being paranoid, or is that another code that I didn't fix all the problems?
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