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Guitar Hero III (PS3) Impressions

post #1 of 201
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Picked up GHIII at midnight. Game looks great. The battle mode is cool. The wireless controller? FAIL. Reviews say that this version is easier than GHI and GHII? Maybe for the 360 version but the PS3 version has a horrible lag problem that calibration is just not fixing. You really have to watch the notes rather than play to the music. With 1 and 2, there was a little forgiveness on steady fast notes. With 3, you can be playing at a constant pace WITH the song and still miss. ZERO forgiveness.

Calibration: When first calibrating, it set us up at 55ms. 10min later, we recalibrate. 15ms. ?? This morning we calibrate..... 0ms.

Never have I wanted a wired contoller more than I do now. Hopefully the problem is just stiff fret buttons but the calibration hopping all over the place is a bit of a concern.

Please post your thoughts.
post #2 of 201
Any possibility it is lag from the setup affecting the timing?

What type of TV / connections, etc.... How far from the PS3 are you playing?

Im going to pick mine up right now and will post back with my results.
post #3 of 201
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Originally Posted by smack View Post

Any possibility it is lag from the setup affecting the timing?

What type of TV / connections, etc.... How far from the PS3 are you playing?

Im going to pick mine up right now and will post back with my results.

47" LCD 1080p, HDMI, Playing 6ft away. My two sons are playing and doing well. It seems 50ms calibration is working better than the recommended 0ms.

OMG. Is the intro to Holiday in Cambodia is INSANE or what????
post #4 of 201
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Originally Posted by Cysquatch View Post

47" LCD 1080p, HDMI, Playing 6ft away. My two sons are playing and doing well. It seems 50ms calibration is working better than the recommended 0ms.

OMG. Is the intro to Holiday in Cambodia is INSANE or what????

2 hours and 3 stores later I finally found somewhere with the 360 version in stock. I've only played a few songs but I haven't noticed any problems with the wireless so far. For the record it calibrated me @ 19ms.

Sorry to hear the PS3 version may be suffering =/
post #5 of 201
I have the game and 1 gutar bundle on its way but I havent seen a seporate second gautar for sale yet. Where is everyone getting it?
post #6 of 201
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haven't seen separate guitars for sale yet. You can bet your ass, i'll be buying the first wired version offered. The game is pretty much unplayable in its current state.

Going to trying forcing 720p on my monitor to see if that helps.
post #7 of 201
Any possibility something in your house is interfearing a little? As I understand they are just RF and not BT so they would be more suseptable to outside interfearence I'd think.
post #8 of 201
You must have a problem with your setup because it works fine for me.
post #9 of 201
I got it this morning and everything seems good. It calibrated me to 0ms. The first song tripped me up and I thought back to this thread and calibrated.. nope.. 0ms. Next song I aced. Personally I think it's just rust for me.
post #10 of 201
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Originally Posted by Rock Daddy View Post

I have the game and 1 gutar bundle on its way but I havent seen a seporate second gautar for sale yet. Where is everyone getting it?

You probably won't see separate guitars for a long time. Many still have a hard time finding (in stores) a second guitar for GH2 on 360.

It took a while last time around for Red Octane to release a separate guitar for GH2, so I wouldn't expect to see one (first party) for sale until at least the new year.

Also, for those of you having problems with lag, this can be tricky to calibrate. I'm not sure how GH3 calibrates lag, but if it does it like GH2 does, that sucks. They really need to include a manual lag calibration.

I had to get really good at the game before I could measure the lag appropriately (mine's about 4-6ms, which is incidently very close to my TV's advertized AV lag of 6ms).

The best way I've found to do the calibration is to put on headphones and close my eyes (since audio is always in sync with the guitar). Be sure not to calibrate by responding to the beep; instead, strum in perfect sync with the beep (which means "feeling" the rhythm to some extent). On GH2, though, the beep starts speeding up as the AV lag adjusts to what you're hitting, getting closer and closer to what it thinks is your actual lag. It's an annoying calibration tool that takes almost as much time to master as the game itself!

Anyhow, if GH3's tool is like GH2's it ain't easy to calibrate the lag. But it's very unlikely you've got a 50ms lag. Most setups with newer TVs and digital equipment will probably be less than 10ms.

But lag also depends on your own sense of rhythm and hand-eye coordination. Some people are invariably "early" on the beat and others are always "late." This is where a musician friend can help.
post #11 of 201
holy hell i am going throw my guitar out the window, what the hell is with the guitar battles? No matter what i try i can't beat Tom Morrellow, the attacks down't really seems to matter, unless I am totally missing the point of this...

other then that the game seems fun, ok songs so far.
post #12 of 201
Thanks for the info guys. Now I'm not to sure about getting this game. There's some songs that I just gotta play! Please keep us posted about the lag problems. Sounds pretty lame as of now. I was so excited about this game now I'm not too sure...is it worth it?
Can't wait for Rockband!
post #13 of 201
Why didn't they just create a bluetooth guitar? The RF is going to have some latency built into it..
post #14 of 201
Ugh, I bought the PS3 version and it is having problems as well with lag. I calibrate it and it works fine, but it seems to lose calibration the more I play it, until I need to recalibrate. It is hard to say how much lag, but there is some to the point where it really screws up your timing. Irritating to say the lease, hope they patch this.
post #15 of 201
We got it last night. The lag does indeed suck. We're playing on a 40 inch Samsung flat panel. We had to unhook it from HDMI and switch to component. Our lag is currently 140ms and feels okay... still not perfect.

BTW, you can manually calibrate the PS3 version but I have no idea what a good number is to start at. I'm not really clear on how it calibrates... so, yeah.
I'm open to any suggestions. According to one post above, our lag is entirely too much. Thoughts?


Oh... and we bought two sets of the game. So we got two controllers and gamestop will take the extra game back for around $30. We did the math and it works out to about 3 dollars more than buying a single controller (if they're $60 and if they existed)
post #16 of 201
I have a Mits LCD hooked up via HDMI, I calibrated it and it came was anywhere from 0 - 30 ms (or whatever they were)

It doesn't seem like lag is a problem, rather I think I just suck at hitting the buttons / strum bar. Oh well, back to practice.......
post #17 of 201
I thought the lag was a problem at first, but it works fine after playing a bit. Granted I was on easy mode, but I didn't notice any difference compared to playing GH2 on the PS2.
post #18 of 201
I picked it up today. I'm having a blast so far. I don't have any problems with my controller but I'm no rock god. I'm playing on easy.
post #19 of 201
I tried "talk dirty to me" on expert and got bood off stage in about 10 seconds.

It's all easy mode for me too, but I've never been that good.
post #20 of 201
The only answer to this is that Activision and Neversoft didn't spend as much time and resources on the PS3 version as they did on the 360 version. Also, Activision and Neversoft are directly responsible for oil being above $90 a barrel. It's all a vast right wing conspiracy.
post #21 of 201
Been visiting some other forums, and people are even having problems with the Wii guitar, which obviously uses Bluetooth from the Wiimote. So any problems are not PS3 specific.
post #22 of 201
Im seeing lots of loose neck and button issues on all consoles it seems. Hope mine is ok when it gets here. I wana ROCK!
post #23 of 201
About 3x now on my 360 version I've had the following happen;

During a chord the game will just break the note after awhile, as if I lifted my fingers from the fret buttons too early/by mistake. I know for sure I'm not doing either of that =/

Other then that no complaints about the game.

For the guy having trouble with Tom, you can stack 2 'debuffs' at any time, wait for him to start playing some notes (not chords!) and nail him with both right after the other. That will completely mangle his rock metre.

Good luck!
post #24 of 201
Does the GH3 guitar work with the PS2 versions when they are played through the PS3? Trying to decide between the X360 and PS3 version.
post #25 of 201
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Originally Posted by Deinonych View Post

Does the GH3 guitar work with the PS2 versions when they are played through the PS3? Trying to decide between the X360 and PS3 version.

Good question, someone try and let me know...
post #26 of 201
ok finally figured it out.. gotta kill his rock meter, thanks for the help man. Guess that makes a heck of a lot more sense, kept going by that meter in the middle and it seemed like nothing i did mattered..


just a tip if anyone gets stuck, just leave the controller and don't play a note and you can skip the battle, if its a problem for you.
post #27 of 201
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Originally Posted by Poolrad View Post

Good question, someone try and let me know...

No. Here's the official word:
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Defa...=posts&t=29097
post #28 of 201
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Originally Posted by Deinonych View Post

Does the GH3 guitar work with the PS2 versions when they are played through the PS3? Trying to decide between the X360 and PS3 version.

Pretty sure it was confirmed that it wouldn't work with either ps2 games.
post #29 of 201
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Originally Posted by Deinonych View Post

Does the GH3 guitar work with the PS2 versions when they are played through the PS3? Trying to decide between the X360 and PS3 version.


I bought Rock the 80s version with GH3 specifically because the sales person at Best Buy said it would work (I know, never trust salesman at Best buy), but the controller disconnects when loading the game, had to use the normal controller. Amazingly I actual seem to play better with a regular controller, but its not as much fun (need to feel like I am actually playing a guitar).

Maybe it can be fixed with a firmware update, but until I see this one work with the controller I won't buy the other earlier games (unless I buy GH2 with controller for the PS2).
post #30 of 201
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Originally Posted by tacom8 View Post

ok finally figured it out.. gotta kill his rock meter, thanks for the help man. Guess that makes a heck of a lot more sense, kept going by that meter in the middle and it seemed like nothing i did mattered..


just a tip if anyone gets stuck, just leave the controller and don't play a note and you can skip the battle, if its a problem for you.

I believe the metre in the middle is the length of the song.
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