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post #61 of 5970
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Originally Posted by hiyman View Post

If it doesn't work, will it not work at all or will it just be a crappy picture?

There are two parts to your "problem".
1) the DC voltage needed to drive the LNBs in the dish to full power
2) the RF loss through the cable to the receivers.

"If" you have problems, it should show up in low transponder levels.
Some of this can be resolved by using a powered multi-switch, or a non powered multi-switch and a Sonora "locker" [which powers the dish].
Here's a link to the locker: http://www.solidsignal.com/manuals/S...PID1422_11.pdf

You wouldn't need all that is in the diagram, but it should give you some idea.
post #62 of 5970
A question about playing audio files on a networked HR21:

1. I am watching ESPN
2. I go to Menu, Music and Photos, My Computer, Select the networked PC, Music, All Music, click on the file I want to play, Listen without Sideshow.
3. I see an indicator at the bottom showing that the music file is playing BUT I am still hearing the ESPN Audio.

How do I get to actually listen to the music file?

Thanks.

fafner
post #63 of 5970
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Originally Posted by fafner View Post

A question about playing audio files on a networked HR21:

1. I am watching ESPN
2. I go to Menu, Music and Photos, My Computer, Select the networked PC, Music, All Music, click on the file I want to play, Listen without Sideshow.
3. I see an indicator at the bottom showing that the music file is playing BUT I am still hearing the ESPN Audio.

How do I get to actually listen to the music file?

Thanks.

fafner

I had the same issue. I found that the audio will only play through the audio out to my stereo and not to the TV via the HDMI cable.
post #64 of 5970
Hello, this is my first post. Thanks for having me! I just switched from the h10-250 (tivo interface) to an h20-100. My question is, is it possible to switch between the 2 tuners on the remote like you could with the h10? I hope so because that was a very useful feature on the directivo. I could switch between,say, 2 football games and because of the buffering on the tuners, I could switch between the tuners and not miss any of the games! Any help would be appreciated.
post #65 of 5970
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Originally Posted by Johnps View Post

I had the same issue. I found that the audio will only play through the audio out to my stereo and not to the TV via the HDMI cable.

Well in my case I have the HR21 going to my Denon 3808 AVR and have my TV speakers turned off.

So in my case something different from yours is going on.

Thanks though.

fafner
post #66 of 5970
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Originally Posted by armin_t View Post

HOWEVER and it's a big however, how come I am not getting some features that have been reported on this update by other users.

For example:

*Option to remove SD version if HD Channel exists
(found it, in a not so obvious place)

Where might this option be.

Just got mine on Thursday and am not fond of the duplicate channel numbers.


Jerry
post #67 of 5970
Got the new dish and HR20 installed. Happy with the added channels, but the audio drops out all the time on every channel. Lasts less than half a second, but its annoying. Is this happenning to anyone else? Is there a fix? It's not my television, as the sound is perfect with other sources. Same HDMI cable and input I was using with my 10-250 and there were no problems. Please advise.
post #68 of 5970
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Originally Posted by huberjgl View Post

Where might this option be.

Just got mine on Thursday and am not fond of the duplicate channel numbers.


Jerry

Which receiver do you have - the only one that has been nationally updated with the lastest FW is the HR2-700. If you have that one, give it a few days to update. If you have any other receiver, keep checking www.dbstalk.com for updates on when your model will get the new update. If you have the update already, the SD Channel duplicates can be removed by looking in the Setup - Display screen (below captions on and off).
post #69 of 5970
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Originally Posted by Mescalito View Post

Got the new dish and HR20 installed. Happy with the added channels, but the audio drops out all the time on every channel. Lasts less than half a second, but its annoying. Is this happenning to anyone else? Is there a fix? It's not my television, as the sound is perfect with other sources. Same HDMI cable and input I was using with my 10-250 and there were no problems. Please advise.

go into settings/audio/Dolby Digital

turn DD ON

see if that fixes it?
post #70 of 5970
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Originally Posted by eraser813 View Post

Hello, this is my first post. Thanks for having me! I just switched from the h10-250 (tivo interface) to an h20-100. My question is, is it possible to switch between the 2 tuners on the remote like you could with the h10? I hope so because that was a very useful feature on the directivo. I could switch between,say, 2 football games and because of the buffering on the tuners, I could switch between the tuners and not miss any of the games! Any help would be appreciated.

No dual tuners on this device much the the chagrin of every football fan that has DTV. Check HERE for a GREAT Tivo convert survivor guide.
post #71 of 5970
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Originally Posted by danmen View Post

Which receiver do you have - the only one that has been nationally updated with the lastest FW is the HR2-700. If you have that one, give it a few days to update. If you have any other receiver, keep checking www.dbstalk.com for updates on when your model will get the new update. If you have the update already, the SD Channel duplicates can be removed by looking in the Setup - Display screen (below captions on and off).

I have the HR21-700.

Just got it Thursday, very used to the way TiVo's do things, so I'm still playing with it figuring stuff out.

It got at least one major software update right after plugging it in.

Jerry
post #72 of 5970
You'll get the update eventually, once you do, you can delete the SD Duplicates from the guide. I agree they are annoying.
post #73 of 5970
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

go into settings/audio/Dolby Digital

turn DD ON

see if that fixes it?

Mark,

Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately it was already set to "on".

Let me just say that your presence on this board is much appreciated. Without you knowing it, you have helped me make some of the best choices for my HT. Whether I'm researching a purchase, or just interested in learning more about something, it is your posts on the subject that I always look for first. Thank you!!!
post #74 of 5970
My setup:
HR20-700 connected via HDMI to a Denon 3808 via HDMI to a Sony 60A3000.

I am occasionally getting pixelation on certain stations (locals mostly NBC, some ABC and a little on CBS). When this occurs, the screen pixelates and the audio sounds sort of "digital". I'm not sure how to describe what that is but it seems to skip.

Sometimes up to half the screen turns green. I don't think it is my HDMI cable because it only seems to be on certain channels, and my AVR isn't having problems with other inputs.

Can someone please offer some advice on what this might be? I have Native set to off if that matters.

Thanks!
post #75 of 5970
Is this a worthy box for just a OTA STB? Also, can the DVR features be used as such?

Maybe this applies to all D* boxes, but do these need a card, or an activated card to function?

Thanks!
post #76 of 5970
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Originally Posted by gte747e View Post

My setup:
HR20-700 connected via HDMI to a Denon 3808 via HDMI to a Sony 60A3000.

I am occasionally getting pixelation on certain stations (locals mostly NBC, some ABC and a little on CBS). When this occurs, the screen pixelates and the audio sounds sort of "digital". I'm not sure how to describe what that is but it seems to skip.

Sometimes up to half the screen turns green. I don't think it is my HDMI cable because it only seems to be on certain channels, and my AVR isn't having problems with other inputs.

Can someone please offer some advice on what this might be? I have Native set to off if that matters.

Thanks!

Most likely poor signal strength.

If OTA
1. Try aligning OTA antenna watching signal strength in setup menu
2. Change OTA antenna to higher gain yagi.
3. Add OTA signal amplifier close as possible to antenna

If Satellite
1. Check dish alignment signal strength in setup menu. If I remember correctly the most critical is 103.
post #77 of 5970
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Originally Posted by greywolf View Post

If it doesn't work it will be obvious. A broken up or non existent picture will result, especially when it rains. Signal strength is about resistance to rain fade, not picture quality. If enough signal gets through to provide full error correction, a 60 SS will look exactly like a 100 SS.

Well I actually have one RG6 and one RG59 going to the TV now. Does anyone know if the RG59 doesn't work if I can split the RG6 behind the TV to make 2 into the Direct TV box?

I am also wondering if the Direct TV boxes are anything like the Motorola 3416 cable boxes. I just got HD about a month ago and realy like the Motorola box. The Motorola actually only needs one wire to it and it gets split inside the case. I really love the swap tuner feature on the Motorola and can only assume that the Direct TV box has that.

Also, does anyone know how come Direct TV charges $299 up front for a HD DVR and then also charges a monthly rental fee. The Dish network doesn't charge anything up front, and even the cable company doesn't have that charge. The only thing holding me back from getting Direct TV is the cabling and the $299 charge. ($199 after rebate) and the fact that you have to sign a contract. I would install Dish Network instead because then I would only need one wire to the box and I don't have to pay anything up front, but they don't carry my local channels in HD
post #78 of 5970
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Originally Posted by SpyderCKE View Post

Is this a worthy box for just a OTA STB? Also, can the DVR features be used as such?

Maybe this applies to all D* boxes, but do these need a card, or an activated card to function?

Thanks!

None of the D* DVRs (including the TiVo HR10) will function only as OTA STBs with the ability to record. You have to have a card, satellite reception, and an active account paying the $5.99 DVR fee to be able to use the DVR function. Some older D* equipment can be used for OTA only without the ability to record anything. I believe that includes the HR10, which will allow you to view OTA with a 30 minute buffer to pause the programming, but won't record anything.

SMK
post #79 of 5970
Is it possible to record to a conventional vcr/dvd from these HD units. I assume it is possible with the SD channels, maybe the HD channels are downconverted like on the Panasonic DMR-EZ47V.

Thanks
post #80 of 5970
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Originally Posted by paa55112 View Post

Is it possible to record to a conventional vcr/dvd from these HD units. I assume it is possible with the SD channels, maybe the HD channels are downconverted like on the Panasonic DMR-EZ47V.

Thanks

I've recorded from my HR20 to my Panasonic DVD recorder with a hard drive and it looks pretty good. Of course its downconverted to SD, but I have the super video connection to my DVD recorder, and if you record in the highest quality, it looks good.
post #81 of 5970
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Originally Posted by Mescalito View Post

Mark,

Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately it was already set to "on".

just for the heck of it, turn it off and see if that helps

Thanks for the kind words
post #82 of 5970
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Originally Posted by hiyman View Post

Well I actually have one RG6 and one RG59 going to the TV now. Does anyone know if the RG59 doesn't work if I can split the RG6 behind the TV to make 2 into the Direct TV box?

The RG59 cable works for some people if it's short (under about 50'). You won't be able to use a splitter for a single cable run -- yet. A product called SWM, Single Wire Multiswitch, should be available soon and will let the HR20/HR21 run off a single cable.
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Also, does anyone know how come Direct TV charges $299 up front for a HD DVR and then also charges a monthly rental fee. The Dish network doesn't charge anything up front, and even the cable company doesn't have that charge. The only thing holding me back from getting Direct TV is the cabling and the $299 charge. ($199 after rebate) and the fact that you have to sign a contract. I would install Dish Network instead because then I would only need one wire to the box and I don't have to pay anything up front, but they don't carry my local channels in HD

The $299 (or $199) is a "buy-in" that you are stuck with. It's part of the deal, like the 2-year commitment and the fact that it's leased equipment. That's just the way it is. The first receiver on your account does not have the $4.99 monthly fee. All additional receivers do.

By the way, I checked DirecTV.com and only four of your local stations are in HD: CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox. That's assuming zip code 53715 in Madison.
post #83 of 5970
It is satellite only. I have always had very strong signal strength, but I will recheck it. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by rahull View Post

Most likely poor signal strength.

If OTA
1. Try aligning OTA antenna watching signal strength in setup menu
2. Change OTA antenna to higher gain yagi.
3. Add OTA signal amplifier close as possible to antenna

If Satellite
1. Check dish alignment signal strength in setup menu. If I remember correctly the most critical is 103.
post #84 of 5970
I got my hd tivo replaced by new black beauty! My kids are extremely unhappy though, they loved tivo! but now it is gone! I tried first with my sony RP LCD in main room and thought PQ was better than HDR 20, but then I realized they took out off air input from this damn thing! damn u direct! So I moved to bed room, and I am glad I did not have them replace both of my units!

Beware before you request upgrade!

I got free swap, for my tivo, with 6 months free hbo, 3 months show time thrown in! I could not complain! even if they would charge me $100 for reciever and leave my tivo back, it was hard to sell that for more than $100, so avoided hassle!
post #85 of 5970
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

I got my hd tivo replaced by new black beauty! My kids are extremely unhappy though, they loved tivo! but now it is gone! I tried first with my sony RP LCD in main room and thought PQ was better than HDR 20, but then I realized they took out off air input from this damn thing! damn u direct! So I moved to bed room, and I am glad I did not have them replace both of my units!

Beware before you request upgrade!

I got free swap, for my tivo, with 6 months free hbo, 3 months show time thrown in! I could not complain! even if they would charge me $100 for reciever and leave my tivo back, it was hard to sell that for more than $100, so avoided hassle!

"Black and no OTA tuner?" That is the HR21-700.
The HR20 [both -700 & -100] are silver and have OTA tuners.
post #86 of 5970
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Originally Posted by veryoldschool View Post

"Black and no OTA tuner?" That is the HR21-700.
The HR20 [both -700 & -100] are silver and have OTA tuners.

thanks! what is difference between HR20-700 VS 100
post #87 of 5970
I switched my Hr20-100 and Hr20-700 around this weekend as I needed the Coax out on the 100 to be downstairs... I had the 100 since June in my Bedroom and it never made a click, whir or clatter. I put the 700 in the Bedroom and it sounds like a Hard drive thinking constantly! Is my 700 a fluky loud machine or are the all loud. It was not an issue in the den since we don't sleep in there. The 100 was not a problem. Should I ask DTV for a HR21 (will it be loud as well?) - I don't need OTA. Also, does the HR21 have a coaxial out? Does the HR21's RF reception mimic the 700 (good) or the 100 (bad)?
post #88 of 5970
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

thanks! what is difference between HR20-700 VS 100

off the top of my head
700 has MUCH MUCH MUCH Better RF Remote control reception.
100 has a digital coaxial audio out in addition to the Optical - 700 only has optical.
a few cosmetic differences.
700 gets updates weeks prior to the 100
post #89 of 5970
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Originally Posted by danmen View Post

off the top of my head
700 has MUCH MUCH MUCH Better RF Remote control reception.
100 has a digital coaxial audio out in addition to the Optical - 700 only has optical.
a few cosmetic differences.
700 gets updates weeks prior to the 100


Now I am getting confused. How many different boxes are there. All I ever heard of was the HR20 and the HR21. What is the 700 and the 100. Do I get a choice if I sign up?
post #90 of 5970
The HR20-100 and HR20- 700 are both part of the HR20 linup (actually they are the entire HR20 lineup) - the HR21-700 is only one model (I think). You'll get whatever box your installer shows up with, often they will have more than one type on the truck (at least mine did) and he did not mind digging through to get the one I Needed. Major difference between HR21 and HR20 is that thr HR21 has not OTA tuner - so if you don't plan on getting your locals via the dish and want to record your locals, I'd insist on the HR20 - as to the difference between the 2 types of HR20's see above...
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