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getting a TV for XBOX 360 - confusion over resolutions, scaling etc

post #1 of 10
10/31/07 at 4:56pm
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gday guys,

first post! well i'm going to get an xbox 360, and a new TV with it too. well after my uni exams anyway -_-. i've done a lot of reading, lots of research and posted in heaps of australian forums but there are still a couple of questions i have. avsforum seemed to be the ideal place to clear this more technical stuff up.

basically, i'm getting my TV for 4 things (native res in brackets):
-xbox (720p)
-australian HDTV (1080i)
-DVDs (480p)
-media centre on xbox (?)

i'm looking at a 40-42" LCD TV. for this size and for my purposes, should i bother with 1080p? specifically:

1) does xbox 360 upscaled to 1080p on a 1080 display look better than 720p on a 720 display? i have heard many conflicting things - some say that the extra resolution means less effects, AA and frame rate, others swear that it looks much better.

2) does 1080i HDTV look much better on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen? i'm not sure on this, cause the number (1080) would be the same but i'm not sure about the interlacing and how that is handled.

i'm thinking of a 720p screen at the moment simply due to the size of my screen, and the fact that i sit 6-8 feet away from it. my current leaning is that a high quality 720p screen will be a good option. any suggestions?

thanks for much for any help fellas.
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post #2 of 10
10/31/07 at 5:20pm
welcome to the avsforums.

if money is not really an option i would go with a 1080p set. i say that with two hdtv's - a 1080p lcd and a 720p plasma - both 42". personally, i like all hd content on both sets but i do feel i get more out of my 1080p set with a ps3 and a bluray. less so with games, even upscaled to 1080p.

whoever told you about less effects w/ 1080p was talking out his a$$. having said that i don't think 1080p looks any better on either set than 1080i or 720p. i really don't. the only exception is really with bluray at 1080p blows me away but to be honest 1080i looks the same. native hd content should look great regardless.

i tend to think that even though pq is same, that a 1080p set is nice b/c you resolve all 1080 lines in an hd broadcast. but really, i do all my hdtv watching on my 720p plasma and love every second if it.

again, if you want to spend then go for a 1080p set but i generally do not recommend it to ppl who ask me only b/c its mostly hype. i like your idea to buy a high quality 720p set and my only suggestion is to go as big as you can - 42" minimum and even 50". you will not regret going big - save on
720p and put the extra cash for more screen size. aaron.
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post #3 of 10
10/31/07 at 9:37pm
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thanks for that mate, some helpful advice.

so do you think there are any downsides to a 1080p TV? like would the xbox 360 frame rate suffer or anything like that?
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post #4 of 10
10/31/07 at 10:47pm
No frame rate issues with the 360 and 1080s.
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post #5 of 10
11/1/07 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by anandr View Post

thanks for that mate, some helpful advice.

so do you think there are any downsides to a 1080p TV? like would the xbox 360 frame rate suffer or anything like that?

no frame rate issues at all - no downside to 1080p set at all - only downside imo would be if you went with a smaller set so that you could get 1080p.
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post #6 of 10
11/1/07 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by anandr View Post


i'm thinking of a 720p screen at the moment simply due to the size of my screen, and the fact that i sit 6-8 feet away from it. my current leaning is that a high quality 720p screen will be a good option. any suggestions?


I'd definitely go with a high quality 720p display over a medicre 1080p, but of course 720p LCDs are getting rare, and most of the newer models (which are generally better than the older ones) are 1080p.
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post #7 of 10
11/1/07 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by chrisherbert View Post

I'd definitely go with a high quality 720p display over a medicre 1080p, but of course 720p LCDs are getting rare, and most of the newer models (which are generally better than the older ones) are 1080p.

On the plus side, you can find big savings on a 720p set. I got a Samsung 720p plasma and the picture is amazing. I'm sitting about 10 feet away, and I'd never be able to tell the difference between it and 1080p.

One other thing to consider--there are no, and probably never will be, broadcast/cable/satellite sources for 1080p. The networks and cable channels have already established themselves as 720p or 1080i, and there's no reason for them to ever change.
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post #8 of 10
11/1/07 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by jremy510 View Post

On the plus side, you can find big savings on a 720p set. I got a Samsung 720p plasma and the picture is amazing. I'm sitting about 10 feet away, and I'd never be able to tell the difference between it and 1080p.

One other thing to consider--there are no, and probably never will be, broadcast/cable/satellite sources for 1080p. The networks and cable channels have already established themselves as 720p or 1080i, and there's no reason for them to ever change.

720p is definitely alive and well in the plasma world. I have a 720p plasma and it looks great.

Still, you don't need a 1080p source to get the benefits of a 1080p TV -- 1080i signals will be deinterlaced to 1080p, and should look fantastic. Actually, if the TV's deinterlacer is designed properly, most 1080i programs can be converted into real 1080p (the exception is 60fps content like sports, news, etc).
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post #9 of 10
11/1/07 at 10:44am
Easily the best 720p flat panel is the pioneer elite pro1150. It puts most 1080p panels to shame, and that is with 1080p content. The only displays that look better are the pioneer elite 1080p displays.
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post #10 of 10
11/4/07 at 10:42pm
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thanks for the replies guys. i'm looking at getting this TV, they're going pretty cheap at the moment here in australia, lead-up to christmas.
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/d...LA40F81BDX/SAP
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