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post #211 of 2557
The premise is ridiculous. But that's true of many entertaining programs.

I will appreciate it if they take the ridiculous premise--following their own rules--and use it to tell interesting and entertaining stories.
post #212 of 2557
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

So, they could combine hooker with kickboxer for a fun girl who knows how to crack heads...

What's this fascination with prostitutes?

Even if someone wants to argue that Echo is a prostitute, I don't see any reason whatsoever to think that she would be imprinted with a prostitute's memories. Why not just someone who enjoys having fun or doing those things? Why imprint her with the memory/personality of someone who gets paid for it?
post #213 of 2557
FInally got around to watching the premier. It was all I could do to finish the hour. Not going to keep this one in the to do list.
post #214 of 2557
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What's this fascination with prostitutes?

Even if someone wants to argue that Echo is a prostitute, I don't see any reason whatsoever to think that she would be imprinted with a prostitute's memories. Why not just someone who enjoys having fun or doing those things? Why imprint her with the memory/personality of someone who gets paid for it?

Well, I'm sure they wouldn't imprint her with someone working a street corner in West Hollywood, but a high scale escort would certainly remove some inhibitions with a touch of class.

BTW: I'm pretty sure I wasn't the first one to use the word hooker, though I did comment that having her sleeping with clients probably wasn't particularily wise on the part of the company.
post #215 of 2557
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I did comment that having her sleeping with clients probably wasn't particularily wise on the part of the company.

Why not? What's wrong with that? The client seemed to enjoy it as did Echo's imprinted personality. Win-win.
post #216 of 2557
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Why not? What's wrong with that? The client seemed to enjoy it as did Echo's imprinted personality. Win-win.

It's all fine until the first client that gives her crabs - then she pass it to all their other high budget clients who have to explain the new medication and special comb to the wife...
post #217 of 2557
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It's all fine until the first client that gives her crabs - then she pass it to all their other high budget clients who have to explain the new medication and special comb to the wife...

If they can wipe her mind, I'm sure they can wipe her body of infection. And you seem to think that the Dollhouse is just a high-priced brothel. Again, I don't understand the fascination with prostitution, but it seems to me that the Dollhouse is much more than that.

So far I believe we've seen three assignments. Echo's first was a fun weekend partner for some rich kid's birthday. Fine. You might call that prostitution.

The second was a hostage negotiator. The third was (Sierra as) a commando.

So 2/3 of the assignments we've seen so far were completely non-sexual in nature.
post #218 of 2557
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If they can wipe her mind, I'm sure they can wipe her body of infection. And you seem to think that the Dollhouse is just a high-priced brothel. Again, I don't understand the fascination with prostitution, but it seems to me that the Dollhouse is much more than that.

So far I believe we've seen three assignments. Echo's first was a fun weekend partner for some rich kid's birthday. Fine. You might call that prostitution.

The second was a hostage negotiator. The third was (Sierra as) a commando.

So 2/3 of the assignments we've seen so far were completely non-sexual in nature.

You're the one who seems fascinated by it. I meantioned it once in a list of several things. The discussion then evolved to a comparision to high price prostitutes.

Get a grip and get over it. If it bothers you, stop referencing it. You're the one who keeps replying with the same nonsense about one single reference.
post #219 of 2557
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Get a grip and get over it. If it bothers you, stop referencing it.

It just bothers me when people see one episode and make assumptions about what the show's about. You seem fixated on the prostitution angle. Others think they're spies. Still others, cops.

All we know is that they're actives...
post #220 of 2557
It's probably natural to focus on the prostitution aspect of it since the actives are all so, um, hot. If they were all dumpy and frumpy, that probably wouldn't be the first thing people would think of. Of course, that show wouldn't draw flies, either. Joss ain't no dummy; he knows his audience.
post #221 of 2557
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It just bothers me when people see one episode and make assumptions about what the show's about. You seem fixated on the prostitution angle. Others think they're spies. Still others, cops.

All we know is that they're actives...

Actually, no, you called me out after 2 other people referenced it and I responded to them. Prior to that, I never insinuated she was a prostitute. I merely made note of her having sex - something you don't have to be a prostitute to do. However, from an image standpoint, unless that's one of the services the company provides, abstinence might be a good addition to the programming. Otherwise, it just seems a bit unprofessional to be counting on that same person to be getting my child back from kidnappers.
post #222 of 2557
If we're going to continue down this path, can we at least have some pics?
post #223 of 2557
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If we're going to continue down this path, can we at least have some pics?

I'm up for screen grabs - but I already deleted the episode. Someone else is going to have to pony up.
post #224 of 2557
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Um, as noted earlier, it was clearly established that she was, with that identity actually near sighted and actually had asthma.

Of all the people I ever knew of that had asthma and used an inhaler, they weren't dosing themselves every five minutes like she was.
post #225 of 2557
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Of all the people I ever knew of that had asthma and used an inhaler, they weren't dosing themselves every five minutes like she was.

Agreed on that point. That's a TV thing. The air must be thinner in the world of make believe.
post #226 of 2557
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I'm up for screen grabs - but I already deleted the episode. Someone else is going to have to pony up.

I still have it sitting on my hard drive and was going to make screen grabs but freeze framing it I realized that the best shots might violate some of the posting rules. It turns out while dancing, her skirt rode up higher than I remembered. I'm a little surprised the Parents Television Council didn't issue a press release, especially given that it aired outside the safe harbor period. Granted, it wasn't anywhere nearly as bad (or if you prefer, good) as the full frontal Survivor slip last year or even the NYPD Blue butts from years past, but the PTC seems to like those displays of moral indignation. . .
post #227 of 2557
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I still have it sitting on my hard drive and was going to make screen grabs but freeze framing it I realized that the best shots might violate some of the posting rules. It turns out while dancing, her skirt rode up higher than I remembered. I'm a little surprised the Parents Television Council didn't issue a press release, especially given that it aired outside the safe harbor period. Granted, it wasn't anywhere nearly as bad (or if you prefer, good) as the full frontal Survivor slip last year or even the NYPD Blue butts from years past, but the PTC seems to like those displays of moral indignation. . .


I only watched the premire once but if I remember correctly I thought she was wearing shorts underneath the dress? The same type that cheeleaders wear under their outfits.
post #228 of 2557
Definitely not while she was dancing. She was wearing leathers under the dress while riding the motorcycle though.
post #229 of 2557
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I only watched the premire once but if I remember correctly I thought she was wearing shorts underneath the dress? The same type that cheeleaders wear under their outfits.

That's right; she had short-shorts of some kind under the mini-dress, not just panties. Not that I was looking for that or anything. I'm no perv, you pervs. Just an observant viewer. With a good memory for detail.
post #230 of 2557
I rewatched it and for one frame, I guess you can see what appears to be silver (to match her shoes) boy-short underwear. I suppose they could be spankies that cheerleaders wear but they seem kind of high cut for shorts. I'd be surprised if there were more than a couple of inches of material at the hip.
post #231 of 2557
It's amazing what you can pick up when you watch frame by frame.
post #232 of 2557
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Originally Posted by O2C View Post

I rewatched it and for one frame, I guess you can see what appears to be silver (to match her shoes) boy-short underwear. I suppose they could be spankies that cheerleaders wear but they seem kind of high cut for shorts. I'd be surprised if there were more than a couple of inches of material at the hip.


Another reason I'm going to give this show a few weeks to 'flesh out'.
post #233 of 2557
I wish people would stop using ImageShack to host these screencaps. More often than not, the picture just won't open for me. The little 'loading" wheel spins and spins but nothing happens, and it's a frakkin' JPEG, fercryinoutloud. Maybe it's just me and my stubborn refusal to "upgrade" XP to Vista...
post #234 of 2557
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I wish people would stop using ImageShack to host these screencaps. More often than not, the picture just won't open for me. The little 'loading" wheel spins and spins but nothing happens, and it's a frakkin' JPEG, fercryinoutloud. Maybe it's just me and my stubborn refusal to "upgrade" XP to Vista...

Not to mention the bandwidth limits. I'm constantly getting that stupid "oops" frog.

I prefer Photobucket, personally, unless I absolutely need to post a full rez 1080i/p HD image (I think PB tops out at 1280x1024 or something like that).
post #235 of 2557
Okay, you know a show is inherently in trouble when the only thing being discussed is about trying to look up some chick's dress using screen caps.

I mean I can appreciate the cheap thrill, intentional or unintentional, by the new young hot thing in the office who's looking to tease a little ****, but a chick on a big 4 network show whose outfits are specially tailored to look erotic, but ultimately reveal practically nothing? C'mon now. Wouldn't the time be better spent working as a security guard who monitors women's dressing rooms?

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post #236 of 2557
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I mean I can appreciate the cheap thrill, intentional or unintentional, by the new young hot thing in the office who's looking to tease a little ****, but a chick on a big 4 network show whose outfits are specially tailored to look erotic, but ultimately reveal practically nothing? C'mon now. Wouldn't the time be better spent working as a security guard who monitors women's dressing rooms?

Well sure. If they make a TV show based on that promising premise, I'm there! Heck, that show is probably already running on Italian TV.
post #237 of 2557
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Originally Posted by GrouchoDude View Post

Well sure. If they make a TV show based on that promising premise, I'm there! Heck, that show is probably already running on Italian TV.

Fox had a show like this called Peepin' It Real.

Or so they claimed in the Simpsons: Behind the Laughter episode.
post #238 of 2557
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Originally Posted by GrouchoDude View Post

I wish people would stop using ImageShack to host these screencaps. More often than not, the picture just won't open for me. The little 'loading" wheel spins and spins but nothing happens, and it's a frakkin' JPEG, fercryinoutloud. Maybe it's just me and my stubborn refusal to "upgrade" XP to Vista...

Hey, point me towards a better site that allows me to throw up a full rez screenshot without having to register for an account, give an e-mail, that's as simple and as easy to remember and I'll use it. Better yet, take your own screenshot and host them where ever you like.
post #239 of 2557
Eliza video for maxim magazine shoot

http://www.charter.net/video/?vid=182062&sc_cid=wccel2
post #240 of 2557
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Eliza video for maxim magazine shoot

http://www.charter.net/video/?vid=182062&sc_cid=wccel2

Well, no one is ever going to accuse her of being top heavy.

Personally, I still give a major edge to Grace Park's Maxim spread which I posted at the forum a couple of years back as part of the Ms. Battlestar Galactica Beauty Pageant. Zowee!

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