The *Official* Samsung BD-UP5000 tracking thread - Page 3

I agree with dpak right now.

$499 is my max for a Universal player. If Samsung can deliver the successor to the UP5000 next year with solid features and a sub $500 price the ability to conserve an HDMI port on my future AVR and the space savings would be worth paying a premium IMO. SACD support would be a huge bonus.

My ideal setup is

HDTV
AVR
Universal HD player
Apple TV for music/video/photos
Xbox 360 for gaming.
1 open HDMI port for future expansion
Universal remote.

Well, I'm really, really happy for you, but that's not how you came across in your first post. Let's review what you said:


You didn't say that it wouldn't be smart for you. You didn't say that it wouldn't be smart for people who don't need or want the features of the BD-UP5000. Nope, you said, "It wouldn't be a smart move to buy this at all". Kinda arrogant to tell the rest of the world that they aren't smart to want or need something just because you don't want or need it isn't it?

The second HDMI cable and socket it connects to.

Agreed. For now

Originally Posted by dpak2005

not true. what about some of the sets that can refresh up 72 hz? 1080p24 is ideal for them not needing the 3:2 pulldown that adds judder to camera pans with 24p matched with 72p there is no 3:2 pulldown it's even 3:3 no missing frames.

so 1080p is very important and makes a big difference viewing perceptions .

Athansios

Remember guys that earlier in this or another thread a Samsung rep. was quoted as saying that Samsung's usual policy is to ship to brick and morter stores first, then follow up with the e-tailers later. So it is consistent to see BB and CC have expectations of product in mid-november while amazon doesn't think they'll see anything until January.

I'm very skeptical that a combo unit will be able to match some of the standalone units in image quality (it hasn't happened on any video format to date that I'm aware). I imagine it will be fine for most of the population, but for some us, it may not be. In addition, having single standalone units allow one to swap out players easier as you don't have that "marriage" issue with a combo if you know what I mean (unless you replace it with another, improved combo). I've been using a PS3 for BD, but recently purchased the new Panasonic BD30 which actually has a better image. Considering you can purchase the BD30 and Toshiba A35 for about the same price of the Samsung and these units have my main priorities (Optimal video quality at 1080/24p and bitstream), I'm finding less reason to wait for the Samsung. Admittingly, one player would be nice, but certainly not an issue for me and, again, it makes it easier for me to upgrade a single format by having separates.

Comparing PQ of PS3 and fully featured BD player is ridiculous. It is like comparing PS2 DVD PQ with Denon universal player. Samsung player is miles ahead of PS3. You can read Samsung's press statement and see that they incorporated their best parts in this multi unit. I'm not saying Samsung is better than the best Sony BD player but it is equal or better than the best Samsung BD player. I have never seen any Samsung unit so I can't comment on Samsung PQ.

There is no need to be concerned about PQ of multi unit. It all depends on manufacturer of the unit and what components they used it. Let's say tomorrow Denon releases multi unit at 3K and then you say PS3 has better picture than Denon because it is stand alone BD player. Utter crap!

Obivously, you're quite ignorant of the fact that the PS3 was widely considered to be just as good as ANY of the first generation Blu-ray players by top videophiles and reviewers. In addition, it has been more future proof than some so-called "fully featured" players. Your faulty comparison of the PS2 is ridiculous because that was/is a POS DVD player - even for the time it was released. Blu-ray was/is key to the PS3; DVD was not to the PS2.


So, you've never seen any Samsung unit but you know it's miles ahead of the PS3 but not the Sony?!? You're seem to think you know an awful lot without having viewed ANY of these units it sounds to me.



I'm not concerned, but I think you're not grasping what I meant and coming up with some false assumptions like the following...


Oh, so now you're going to make up statements of hypotheticals of what I might say?!? That is utter crap.

You obviously have never seen a PS3 playback a Blu-ray disc. I own both a PS3 and a first gen Samsung BD player. The PS3 has the PQ edge over the Samsung stand alone. Oh, and I also hve my preorder in for the BD-UP5000.

Can we now get back on topic? This thread has a gone way off topic.

Obviously ignorance is bliss.

The Cell Broadband Engine in the PS3 is lightyears ahead of the current crop, and as a result Sony is trickling out firmware upgrades that make more and more things possible on the PS3.

The PS3 is an outstanding BD and SACD player, at least on my RX-V2700/Sherbourn amps/Paradigm Reference system.

I will only move to a dual player unless it will offer SACD and DVD-A playback.

Oh BTW did i forget to tell you that i also browse the internet, and no, i have not played a game on it and will not until they allow TrackIR implementations for 3D aerial combat

IMHO for $399 it is a no brainer for the BD/SACD HDMI 1.2 pre/pro audiophile.

Enough with the arguing children!

The topic of this thread isn't "Which hardware is better". nor is it "Passive-aggressive name calling" or "Snooty reference system one-ups man-ship".

NO! The topic (for those who need a more blatant reminder) is "Samsung BD-UP5000 tracking thread".

Now, since the Samsung BD-UP5000 has yet to hit the retail market, I can see that a few of you would still like to argue on other points. I would like to politely ask that you go off to one of the other threads, or create your own.

This one, as it states in the title, is for something other than arguing.

That said, please let those of us anxiously awaiting the release of this device enjoy our blissful anticipation (and possible angry frustration) continue to enjoy our thread.

Time to move on to your own sandbox gentlemen, this one is not for you.

Moderator? Please feel free to shut this thread down if these people can't behave themselves.

Spence

well said

Right on!

Folks come to this thread for news and rumors on Sammy 5000 availability and don't want to have to wade thru a lot of unrelated posts.

Personally I don't mind a few off-topic comments as part of an on-topic post but I think most would agree that a whole series of totally off-topic (and not very polite) posts are clearly off base.

i dont know if anybody has noticed but when i went to samsungs official site and went to the blu-ray section on the left part under product finder if you click the drop down arrow it gives an option for Duo HD player. looks like they are getting ready to place the 5000 on their page.

Nice find Syk69! It could eventually grow, with the announcement of new models. ...I'm not saying that I have read anything of any new Samsung Duo HD player mind you, but since LG has their second model on the market, it would be short sited of Samsung to not have a second model in development at some point.

By the way, I am still hoping someone will stop into their local Best Buy and snap a photo of an empty display area (or the Circuit City employee's offer of a screen shot indicating an anticipated delivery date).

Cheers!
Spence

Although I don't plan on buying one as soon as they hit the shelves I'm eagerly awaiting it to see if it lives up to it's potential. If it does I'll have one. Hopefully we will see them before Christmas. Maybe if sales are good we'll see a bd-up3000 for those who do not want every option.

You do know that the $399 model does not play SACDs and only the Panasonic 10A played DVD-As.
No single format HDM player does both.

ABT finally fessed up with the January release delay. B&M to save the day? To be continued...

Vinnie97,

Did you call ABT or go visit them in person? I'm just curious, because I live near Abt Electronics and they have a huge store. So in one sense they can be considered B&M. However, I know they also do internet sales.

I'm just wondering if you called their internet division. I was thinking about going over one of these days to ask about the Sammy player. I would definitely much rather buy from them than from any BB or CC in my area.

Just wondering....

See what did I tell you ABT was just late in the game

For one until it is confirmed by someone that it is IN the store going on shelves I am taking any third party notice on here with a grain of salt.

Ph8, that's sage advice. Unfortunately, I heard they were reliable and 'ssumed some tings when they didn't get the shipment update like everybody else.


Roundy, definitely the internet division as their B&M is nowhere near me. I'm not sure how they apportion stock between the 2 but it wouldn't hurt to ask them.

I called my friend at the local Circuit City to inquire today. It is in the system, but 0 on hand and 0 at the warehouse. "Any day now" is what he's heard. I told him I would check with him on Friday.

Codeman, which specific Circuit City in Dallas is this?

Checked with my new best friend/s at my local Best Buy in Madison.

They confirmed (similar to the Circuit City post above) that the device is in their system, but showing no stock in either local store, or regional distribution center.

Could be any day... could be any month.

Anticipation of this product grows like a blind date via an on-line dating service posting full of "glamour shots" and (ahem) "out dated" height and weight statistics.

Keep flyin'

Spence

This would be the one in Cedar Hill. Technically not Dallas, but I'm in GP and it's the closest one to me

Thanks for that. The one in Mesquite claims they have it in their system but have no idea on availability (CSR claimed they have no information on the product yet either so not a good sign). At least the etailers have this information.

I want this bad boy sooner rather than later - but I'm willing to wait, as long as they get it right when it finally ships. It SHOULD ship 1.1 compliant out of the box, because the new Panasonic already is. I wonder if that has something to do with the delay?

I think Samsung knows they have a lot to lose if the Bd-UP5000 ships "buggy", as everybody will want to review this thing. How many magazines do you see doing reviews of prototype products?

I'm being optomistic - I think Samsung will deliver a product that we will all be happy we waited for.

Patrick

I will say that the manager at that Cedar Hill location mentioned above claimed they'd have it in a "few weeks," so we'll see.