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post #1291 of 4149
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Originally Posted by Eragon View Post

I've been searching through this thread and can't find an answer to another thread I started which was locked and I was directed here.

((( 40gb vs 80gb I'm not much of a gamer but that could change down the road so I'm looking at getting a PS3 for BD playback and mostly NFL or NBA Live games. I'm not sure if I'll need 80 gb of memory. Anyone have a 40 gb that they maxed out or getting close to maxing out? What did it take to use up 40 gb?)))

I've got the 40gig...with 10gigs of mp3's & 8 gigs of demo's. I buy or rent any games so I don't see a need for more space. If you like to have the movies or games on your hardrive, then it will be a different model but my games play great right from the dvd
post #1292 of 4149
I can't remember who suggested this external fan http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00080G0BK but it works fabulously. My kids would run my PS3 which is in a closed cabinet (can't do anything about it) and not turn the small 5 inch fan on behind it, so it would get really hot...and the fan itself is somewhat loud. This little gem, running at half speed is whisper quiet and automatically comes on with the little rats turn on the PS3

Again, thanks to whoever recommended it
post #1293 of 4149
I searched and came up with so many hits on this issue it made my head spin, I read for hours however do not seem to have an easy answer to this. My PS3 was hooked up to my Yammy RX-V663 and I could watch BD on LPCM and also listen to MP3's in different surround modes. I just purchased a small Sony HT-SF2300 for a small home theater in another room and moved the PS3 there. The PS3 BD is set to LPCM and movies are fine however when I listen to MP3's the SF2300 won't allow anything other than 2CH sound. I played with the audio setting switching options on and off and can get MP3's to go to surround fields with the LPCM 48Khz switched off however I lost BD surround. Does anyone know what the optimal settings would be to get both BD working on LPCM and still get MP3 surround options and not affect games. Thanks all.
post #1294 of 4149
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Originally Posted by Eragon View Post

I've been searching through this thread and can't find an answer to another thread I started which was locked and I was directed here.

((( 40gb vs 80gb I'm not much of a gamer but that could change down the road so I'm looking at getting a PS3 for BD playback and mostly NFL or NBA Live games. I'm not sure if I'll need 80 gb of memory. Anyone have a 40 gb that they maxed out or getting close to maxing out? What did it take to use up 40 gb?)))

My 40 is not close to being full after a year. This is largely due to not using it for local storage of video and music -- I stream everything from my PC. I do own a few games, but mostly download and play demos, so I do use the PS3's hard drive. BD Live uses a trivial amount of space.

However, the 80GB is the current entry level PS3. So the limitations of 40GB matter only if you're looking at used or "new old stock" units.
post #1295 of 4149
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

My 40 is not close to being full after a year. This is largely due to not using it for local storage of video and music -- I stream everything from my PC. I do own a few games, but mostly download and play demos, so I do use the PS3's hard drive. BD Live uses a trivial amount of space.

However, the 80GB is the current entry level PS3. So the limitations of 40GB matter only if you're looking at used or "new old stock" units.

Thanks for the info. I was just wondering because I was browsing around Ebay and saw respected merchants selling the brand new 40gb online for $300- $400 with games + DVD in some cases. I wasn't sure if the extra 40gb was needed in my case or worth the extra 99 bucks it would cost.
post #1296 of 4149
I am looking forward with growing anticipation to Friday, January 2nd when the UPS man (or woman) drops off my new ONKYO TX-SR606...

I know that I need to set up my PS3 for LCPM output through HDMI...

I have read and read and read some more about this - it should be a simple, cut and dry solution, but apparently there are a lot of differing views.

Should I always keep it set up this way? Is there ever a time when I should change it for better sound? I don't know, an older DVD with no DD or something?

Counting the hours,

Dwaine
post #1297 of 4149
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Originally Posted by singitloud View Post

I am looking forward with growing anticipation to Friday, January 2nd when the UPS man (or woman) drops off my new ONKYO TX-SR606...

I know that I need to set up my PS3 for LCPM output through HDMI...

I have read and read and read some more about this - it should be a simple, cut and dry solution, but apparently there are a lot of differing views.

Should I always keep it set up this way? Is there ever a time when I should change it for better sound? I don't know, an older DVD with no DD or something?

Counting the hours,

Dwaine

If the audio chart in the first post is still accurate to date, you can see that the only time you would change from PCM for better sound is on an DVD's Dolby Digital EX 6.1 track. However, if your AVR can do a surround matrixing on the rear channel you'll get the same effect.

A lot of your question comes down to how your AVR handles LPCM. Some handle it better than others, and you would want to check the corresponding AVR thread for more details.

Brandon
post #1298 of 4149
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

If the audio chart in the first post is still accurate to date, you can see that the only time you would change from PCM for better sound is on an DVD's Dolby Digital EX 6.1 track. However, if your AVR can do a surround matrixing on the rear channel you'll get the same effect.
...

Brandon

That actually raises an interesting question. Since the PS3 is outputting PCM for the hi-res audio formats, can it be told to output bitstream for DD (and its variants) and DTS over HDMI. Then you get the theoretical best of both worlds. Hires audio comes across as LPCM (with the PS3 decoding internally), other formats go across as bitstream and allow the AVR to decode them.

Must try it out one day when I get my new AVR connected.
post #1299 of 4149
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

That actually raises an interesting question. Since the PS3 is outputting PCM for the hi-res audio formats, can it be told to output bitstream for DD (and its variants) and DTS over HDMI. Then you get the theoretical best of both worlds. Hires audio comes across as LPCM (with the PS3 decoding internally), other formats go across as bitstream and allow the AVR to decode them.

Must try it out one day when I get my new AVR connected.

It currently does not, and that is a feature that I think a lot of people would like to see.

Brandon
post #1300 of 4149
Im only running a 5.1 setup right now with the VSX-01TXH, so should I uncheck all of the 7.1 outputs in the PS3 audio setup? Thanks for the help!!
post #1301 of 4149
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

It currently does not, and that is a feature that I think a lot of people would like to see.

Brandon

Here here.

I've owned a PS3 for a week now (replacing the much maligned Samsung BD-P1000), and I really think it's Son'y's finest hour. I love it.

Another feature I'd like to see is the ability to default to a preferred audio track, if available. This would be especially useful on Warner Bros discs, where the film starts right away, and you often neglect to manually change from DD to TrueHD.

With discs from other studios, you might want to default to DTS-MA, so that might make it a little trickier to implement. But still not exactly difficult.

Anyone?
post #1302 of 4149
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

If the audio chart in the first post is still accurate to date, you can see that the only time you would change from PCM for better sound is on an DVD's Dolby Digital EX 6.1 track. However, if your AVR can do a surround matrixing on the rear channel you'll get the same effect.

A lot of your question comes down to how your AVR handles LPCM. Some handle it better than others, and you would want to check the corresponding AVR thread for more details.

Brandon

Brandon,

Thanks for reminding me of the chart - you are right.

I will look into the matrixing.

Will the AVR manual actually use that terminology?

Dwaine
post #1303 of 4149
Have been reading the forums and apparently the ONKYO 606 DOES matrix.

YEAH!
post #1304 of 4149
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Originally Posted by singitloud View Post

Will the AVR manual actually use that terminology?

Dwaine

It will be in the manual, but I'm not familiar with the terminology of your particular model. Page 58 of your manual has a chart that describes the listening modes for PCM multichannel sources which should give you some insight on it.

Brandon
post #1305 of 4149
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Originally Posted by Jimstyles View Post

Daniel, that's exactly what i'm trying to find out. In the beginning of this thread it says to put the HDMI output on the PS3 to "Automatic" for the best setting, however, when i do that it only shows the two default settings of LPCM 2ch 44.1 and 48khz. Shouldn't at least Dolby Digtal and DTS be ticked?

Or should i just select "Manual" and tick all of the different formats?

Had this same issue and finally figured out why only the 2ch was showing up.

I have an Onkyo and if it is set "HDMI Audio Out = On", then the PS3 seems to only view the 2ch of your TV speakers.

I flipped that setting to "Off" (don't use the TV speakers anyway) and then went back into the PS3 settings with "Automatic" and a whole list came up of options.

That one little step frustrated me like no other, but thankfully it's over!
post #1306 of 4149
Hello everyone,

I went through the FAQ for the PS3 a couple of times and haven't found a case scenario that fits my situation. I'm looking to get a rotel RSP-1570 that has HDMI 1.3 inputs and would like to hook it up to my PS3 to get the benefits of the new lossless audio formats (TrueHD, etc). The problem is that my TV does NOT have HDMI nor does it have DVI. It only has component video.

Can I hook up the PS3 to the AVR via HDMI and then use component video cables to my TV and still be able to get LPCM or dobly True HD?

Thanks!

Mike
post #1307 of 4149
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Originally Posted by spkerguy View Post

..e HDMI nor does it have DVI. It only has component video.

Can I hook up the PS3 to the AVR via HDMI and then use component video cables to my TV and still be able to get LPCM or dobly True HD?

Thanks!

Mike

If you hook your PS3 to the AVR via HDMI and have the right settings (PCM) then you will get the hirez audio. However the PS3 AFAIK doesn't have component video connections as standard - you need to purchase an adapter. It has a funky connector (proprietary). But what I don't know and perhaps should be in the FAQ and manual is, is the component video output active as the same time as the HDMI one? I looked at my PS3 and in the output settings you can choose between HDMI (which I use) and component. However I lacked the courage to set component in case I lost all output and I don't have the component video adapter!
post #1308 of 4149
I have a problem that I can't seem to find a solution to.
I have a PS3 connected to the Yamaha v663 via HDMI, 7.1 setup. With the PS3 set to bitstream, playing BR and Dvd, I get full surround, great, but obviously I cannot get the HD audio formats on BR.
When I set the PS3 to output Linear PCM, I only get Front L and R and Center, but no activity at the two surrounds (*edit* surrounds play loud garbled / static sound when only 5.1 is selected in PS3 settings, 7.1 = no activity/sound).
When looking at the ?info? screen when playing a BR the HD audio seems to be coming through as the bit rate is substantially higher. Also the Ps3 Audio settings have been set up in almost every combination,
the big one being having LPCM 5.1 selected. Please help?

Many of peoples similar solutions to this are to just turn on bitstream, this is not acceptable, I want my HD audio . I have tried both BR and DVD and Games, as I said bitstream works a charm, PCM doesn't.
I appreciate any solutions, let me know if you need further information.

With only 5.1 selected in the PS3 settings I get grabled static from surrounds, with only 7.1 selected I get nothing in the surrounds, if I push it all through 7 channels, it's clear (no static).

v663 forum suggested trying here as it may be a PS3 problem trying to output the LPCM. Please note all basic settings are correct, all cables are connected and swapped and tried again, firmware is the latest,
I have yet to try another PS3 to see if that will make a difference, any suggestions before I do?
post #1309 of 4149
Is it possible to run ANYDVD on the PS3 or any other program/hack enabling the PS3 to playback BRs with different region codes?
I tried a search of this forum and did not find apropriate answers.
post #1310 of 4149
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Originally Posted by nethien View Post

Is it possible to run ANYDVD on the PS3 or any other program/hack enabling the PS3 to playback BRs with different region codes?
I tried a search of this forum and did not find apropriate answers.


Not possible. The PS3 doesn't run Windows
post #1311 of 4149
Just for confirmation, I went through the FAQ section and need a bit of clarification on what I think I have read. I got my PS3 for Christmas and so did my brother-in-law. My PS3 upconverts standard DVD's extremely well over hdmi but my brother-in-law does not have hdmi on his old set. You can not upconvert over component only over hdmi, is that right? Thanks everyone.
post #1312 of 4149
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Originally Posted by A-Rone View Post

Just for confirmation, I went through the FAQ section and need a bit of clarification on what I think I have read. I got my PS3 for Christmas and so did my brother-in-law. My PS3 upconverts standard DVD's extremely well over hdmi but my brother-in-law does not have hdmi on his old set. You can not upconvert over component only over hdmi, is that right? Thanks everyone.

That is correct. The PS3 will only do 480p over component for SDs. BDs will play at 1080i.
post #1313 of 4149
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Originally Posted by BSTNFAN View Post

That is correct. The PS3 will only do 480p over component for SDs. BDs will play at 1080i.

Thank you!
post #1314 of 4149
wonder how far we are away from having the PS3 doing bitstream? Maybe a future update? I have the PS3 and was thinking of getting another dvd player such as the Panny BD35 to do bitstream..
post #1315 of 4149
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Originally Posted by taxman48 View Post

wonder how far we are away from having the PS3 doing bitstream? Maybe a future update? I have the PS3 and was thinking of getting another dvd player such as the Panny BD35 to do bitstream..

Not going to happen.
From what i understand,The issue is with hardware not with software.
post #1316 of 4149
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Originally Posted by taxman48 View Post

wonder how far we are away from having the PS3 doing bitstream? Maybe a future update? I have the PS3 and was thinking of getting another dvd player such as the Panny BD35 to do bitstream..

I guess the real question is, why in the world would you buy another BD player to just do bitstream? You know there's no audible difference between LPCM and bitstream, right?

I've got another question for the group...if I force my PS3 into 1080p24 (instead of auto), is there any detriment when playing "non 24 Fps" sources? My TV is a 6020 KURO which is capable of 24 fps.
post #1317 of 4149
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Originally Posted by graphicguy View Post

You know there's no audible difference between LPCM and bitstream, right?

We need to stop saying this. It implies there is some other sort of difference.

There is no difference, bit for bit, between the LPCM output of the PS3's decoders and the output of a receiver's decoders.

Any audible difference is introduced somewhere else in the audio processing.
post #1318 of 4149
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Originally Posted by taxman48 View Post

wonder how far we are away from having the PS3 doing bitstream? Maybe a future update? I have the PS3 and was thinking of getting another dvd player such as the Panny BD35 to do bitstream..

Another reason you don't want to bitstream is that multiple streams of overlay audio (special features, voiceovers, button clicks, etc) will not be mixed in with the movie.

For some reason, people never bring this up in the Great Bitstreaming Debate!

post #1319 of 4149
Sorry... Just thought I'd try this again....

I've owned a PS3 for a week now (replacing the much maligned Samsung BD-P1000), and I really think it's Sony's finest hour. I love it.

Anyone know if there's a way of getting the PS3 to default to a preferred audio track, if available?

This would be especially useful on Warner Bros discs, where the film starts right away, and you often neglect to manually change from DD to TrueHD.

With discs from other studios, you might want to default to DTS-MA, so that might make it a little trickier to implement. But still not exactly difficult.
post #1320 of 4149
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Originally Posted by Electric_Haggis View Post

Anyone know if there's a way of getting the PS3 to default to a preferred audio track, if available?.

I don't think there is but it doesn’t matter with Blu-Ray Movies.

The Menus are always available - you can pop up the menu
and make the switch on the fly without missing a sound.
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