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post #1831 of 4143
I've said this on some gaming forums, but I believe that firmware info is completely bogus. And I know nothing about the poster.

Brandon
post #1832 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

While very worthwhile updates to be sure, if true, and if you're a gamer, considering the audience in this forum I think the following additional features would receive a much warmer reception

1. Enhance the XMB so it can playback content in ts format and not only AC3 audio but DTS audio. This saves having to convert files to m2ts format and/or authoring the content as AVCHD format so that the DTS audio can be heard

2. Provide a capability for the PS3 to read NTFS formatted external USB drives. If they don't want to use/pay a licence for that, then use a proprietary format if they must but allow filesizes > 4G and provide a PC utility to read/format drives in that format. Slightly out of my area but perhaps one of the open source file formats


3. Allow the PS3 to play content in AVCHD format which has Dolby TrueHD audio. At the moment I don't think it can but I have anecdotally that content with DTS HD Master in m2ts format can be played in the PS3.

Just my 2c FWIW

NTFS read (and to some extent write; depending on distro) support is already available in linux. I'm not sure licensing is the issue. MS has stated that they can not (or will not) provide all of the specifications to NTFS. This seems to be the limiting factor in many things supporting ntfs.

There are a few projects that have reverse engineered NTFS and therefore do not require licensing (at least from what I have read).

ntfs-3g is one of the options.
It is the default driver for many distros like Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE and Ubuntu.
http://www.ntfs-3g.com

Also, I know you can install and run linux on the internal HDD of the ps3. I would think this would open some possibilities but I haven't not looked into it in any depth.
post #1833 of 4143
Today I went to setup my brand NEW PS3........hours later and MUCH perplexing frustration and I NEED HELP!
I have a TV which is connected to a Cable box via HDMI and prior to this my DVD was the same and BOTH depended on the Audio via Optical Digital cable to my Onkyo Receiver.
So - I thought "piece of cake" all I have to do is connect up my HDMI that was running to the DVD to the PS3 and same with the Optical D. OUT ------ WRONG!!!
I start setup with the PS3 and the 1st thing that pops up: "The PS3 has determined that an HDMI cable is connected - Do I want both Audio and Video signals to go via IT?" YES or NO IF you choose NO - it's end of story, screen goes blank and you can do nothing. BUT it does not up front give you the option of running separate signals. You choose YES, which is a not true, and then you can go into Setup and configure your HDMI Video and also your Audio settings via Optical Digital. So everything appears "normal" one would think - BUT - I have tried everything and I can get NO sound thru my A/V Receiver.
I eventually called Sony Support and he said that they do not support use of separate receiver....BUT in the manual it gives the directions for the same hook ups that I have made. He did try to help as much as he could but he eventually gave up and told me maybe I should go on line to see if someone can help me. I was surprised to find out that I am in the masses of others who have had problems with Audio connections on the PS3.
I CAN'T believe this is happening!
Plerase HELP if possible and...........

TKS michael
post #1834 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmanvbva View Post

NTFS read (and to some extent write; depending on distro) support is already available in linux. I'm not sure licensing is the issue. MS has stated that they can not (or will not) provide all of the specifications to NTFS. This seems to be the limiting factor in many things supporting ntfs.

I am sure it is. But who wants to boot up Linux on their PS3 just to read NTFS disks and anyway, now we don't have (at least that I am aware of) a decent media player that supports AC3, DTS, TrueHD etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmanvbva View Post

There are a few projects that have reverse engineered NTFS and therefore do not require licensing (at least from what I have read).

ntfs-3g is one of the options.
It is the default driver for many distros like Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE and Ubuntu.
http://www.ntfs-3g.com

Also, I know you can install and run linux on the internal HDD of the ps3. I would think this would open some possibilities but I haven't not looked into it in any depth.

Hard to see Sony using reversed engineered NTFS code in a firmware release!
post #1835 of 4143
what is the best way to verify you're sending Dobly TrueHD? I am watching the transformers blue ray. The dvd offers Dolby Digital and Dolby TrueHD. How do I set it so its TrueHD being sent to my Onkyo 706?
post #1836 of 4143
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Originally Posted by eightonezero View Post

what is the best way to verify you're sending Dobly TrueHD? I am watching the transformers blue ray. The dvd offers Dolby Digital and Dolby TrueHD. How do I set it so its TrueHD being sent to my Onkyo 706?

The display button will tell you what is going on currently.

The Triangle option button will also get you there.

And just to repeat for the next poster that has to ask: No the PS3, any PS3 known to date will ever bitstream the lossles codecs.


Joe
post #1837 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

I am sure it is. But who wants to boot up Linux on their PS3 just to read NTFS disks and anyway, now we don't have (at least that I am aware of) a decent media player that supports AC3, DTS, TrueHD etc.



Hard to see Sony using reversed engineered NTFS code in a firmware release!

I agree with your desire. I was just offering some possible solutions.

As far as reverse engineered NTFS support. Many applications and electronics take advantage of it. It is pretty mature and stable at this point. Especially for basic read/write file access. As time goes by, Sony is going to feel more and more pressure to support something other than fat32.
post #1838 of 4143
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Originally Posted by cyberized View Post

Today I went to setup my brand NEW PS3........hours later and MUCH perplexing frustration and I NEED HELP!
I have a TV which is connected to a Cable box via HDMI and prior to this my DVD was the same and BOTH depended on the Audio via Optical Digital cable to my Onkyo Receiver.
So - I thought "piece of cake" all I have to do is connect up my HDMI that was running to the DVD to the PS3 and same with the Optical D. OUT ------ WRONG!!!
I start setup with the PS3 and the 1st thing that pops up: "The PS3 has determined that an HDMI cable is connected - Do I want both Audio and Video signals to go via IT?" YES or NO IF you choose NO - it's end of story, screen goes blank and you can do nothing. BUT it does not up front give you the option of running separate signals. You choose YES, which is a not true, and then you can go into Setup and configure your HDMI Video and also your Audio settings via Optical Digital. So everything appears "normal" one would think - BUT - I have tried everything and I can get NO sound thru my A/V Receiver.
I eventually called Sony Support and he said that they do not support use of separate receiver....BUT in the manual it gives the directions for the same hook ups that I have made. He did try to help as much as he could but he eventually gave up and told me maybe I should go on line to see if someone can help me. I was surprised to find out that I am in the masses of others who have had problems with Audio connections on the PS3.
I CAN'T believe this is happening!
Plerase HELP if possible and...........

TKS michael

Hmmm, not sure what your porblem is but before I purchased my new receiver with HDMI switching onboard I was running the PS3 with HDMI to my TV and optical out to my receiver with no problem so I know it works. Are you sure you're on the right input on the Onkyo? I would also go through the wiring again and make sure all connections are right and make sure the Onkyo's digital input is assigned correctly. My son has an older DD Onkyo and they seem a little trickier for set up than my Denon or Pioneer were.
post #1839 of 4143
I have HDMi to my tv and optical to my reciever no problems on my 60 gig. If I rember correctly I answered yes to everything via hdmi and then went to audio settings and set it to optical output, but I'd have to double check that.
post #1840 of 4143
Cyberized, make sure after you set up the optical audio connection you press "right" on the directional pad one more time and confirm with the "x" button. Otherwise the settings will not take.

Brandon
post #1841 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

While very worthwhile updates to be sure, if true, and if you're a gamer, considering the audience in this forum I think the following additional features would receive a much warmer reception

1. Enhance the XMB so it can playback content in ts format and not only AC3 audio but DTS audio. This saves having to convert files to m2ts format and/or authoring the content as AVCHD format so that the DTS audio can be heard

2. Provide a capability for the PS3 to read NTFS formatted external USB drives. If they don't want to use/pay a licence for that, then use a proprietary format if they must but allow filesizes > 4G and provide a PC utility to read/format drives in that format. Slightly out of my area but perhaps one of the open source file formats

3. Allow the PS3 to play content in AVCHD format which has Dolby TrueHD audio. At the moment I don't think it can but I have anecdotally that content with DTS HD Master in m2ts format can be played in the PS3.

Just my 2c FWIW

Enhance the downloads section of the Playstation store and give us a couple of hundred HD film trailers at a time as it's so poor at the moment they are still showing the old teaser trailers for The Dark Knight and the new Star Trek film despite proper full blown trailers being available....Perhaps they are having problems licensing trailers but boy is it poor at the moment.

Same goes for the Blu Ray trailers download section.
post #1842 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberized View Post

Today I went to setup my brand NEW PS3........hours later and MUCH perplexing frustration and I NEED HELP!
I have a TV which is connected to a Cable box via HDMI and prior to this my DVD was the same and BOTH depended on the Audio via Optical Digital cable to my Onkyo Receiver.
So - I thought "piece of cake" all I have to do is connect up my HDMI that was running to the DVD to the PS3 and same with the Optical D. OUT ------ WRONG!!!
I start setup with the PS3 and the 1st thing that pops up: "The PS3 has determined that an HDMI cable is connected - Do I want both Audio and Video signals to go via IT?" YES or NO IF you choose NO - it's end of story, screen goes blank and you can do nothing. BUT it does not up front give you the option of running separate signals. You choose YES, which is a not true, and then you can go into Setup and configure your HDMI Video and also your Audio settings via Optical Digital. So everything appears "normal" one would think - BUT - I have tried everything and I can get NO sound thru my A/V Receiver.
I eventually called Sony Support and he said that they do not support use of separate receiver....BUT in the manual it gives the directions for the same hook ups that I have made. He did try to help as much as he could but he eventually gave up and told me maybe I should go on line to see if someone can help me. I was surprised to find out that I am in the masses of others who have had problems with Audio connections on the PS3.
I CAN'T believe this is happening!
Plerase HELP if possible and...........

TKS michael

It should work - all you need to know is HERE
post #1843 of 4143
THANKS alot for all your input concerning my inability to get sound signal out of my new PS3. Last night after MUCH consternation - I decided I would just box it all up again and get my money back from Craigslist. BUT checked in here this AM and 1] I think I found from here that I needed to change setting to BITSTREAM. 2] and this is the BIGGY.....I am used to my Harmony remote just setting everything up correctly when I request a function........so I never noticed till this AM that the A/V Receiver was NOT set to accept signals from the DVD but was still set for Audio from the TV. STUPID me - as usual!
So now I do have sound........now must decide still whether to keep it or not.

THANKS alot, michael
post #1844 of 4143
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Originally Posted by cyberized View Post

So now I do have sound........now must decide still whether to keep it or not.

THANKS alot, michael

By all means KEEP IT

You won't find a better Blu-Ray player or Game Machine.

Of course now you need to upgrade everything else to appreciate how good it is

You can also find a Bluetooth to IR adapter so that your Harmony can control the PS3!
The Fun Rolls on
post #1845 of 4143
Hello new here,

I have seen blu-ray movies playing in the store that look incredible, but my own experience has not been that amazing. I am hoping someone can help.

My set up:
Blu-Ray Player = PS3 (latest update)
HDTV = Sony Bravia KDL-46VL130
Sony HDMI cable connecting them

I currently own The Dark Knight on blu-ray and although when I watch it, the picture looks really good, I have seen blu-rays in the store that blow me away. I can give two examples: first was Pirates of the caribbean and it was playing on a XBR2 running on a PS3. The second was yesterday I saw Lakeview Terrace on a sony KDL-40V4100 running some blu-ray player. Both of these how a "WOW" factor that I have never seen on my HDTV.

Is the difference the movie?
Do i not have something setup right?
Is my HDTV obsolete?

Thanks for any help.
post #1846 of 4143
Usually in shop displays the TVs will be in Vivid mode (or equivalent). In truth your TV shouldn't be in such a mode. The idea of Vivid modes are to give that pop effect to make the buyer go wow, that looks unreal... and funnily enough that's exactly what it is, unreal.

If you really want that, look in your TVs menu for the Picture Mode. There will be Vivid, Standard, Cinema & Custom options. Vivid will put everything to that pop level you want. Be warmed, it will set your colour temps to high (lowering the lifetime of your TV) add unreasonable red levels etc...

I would recommend staying away from that though. Stick with Cinema or Custom, aim for more truer to life colours. Look under the Bravia threads in the LCD section of this website. They'll give you some nice guidelines on what settings your TV should be on. Will also give you a run-down on what the settings in your TV do. i.e. what to turn on/off.

Could also calibrate your TV using a calibration disk or a professional service. I've used DVE's HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs with allot of success.

i.e. on my Bravia X series I now have all of the image enhancers off (except for detail enhancer) and have calibrated my brightness and contrast (picture??? wtf Sony!!!) to give me the best black/white levels I can get (along with allot of other settings - sharpness, r/g/b levels). Only reason I left the detail enhancer on is it gave me much sharper detail without adding any noticeable artefacts.
post #1847 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by soliloquist View Post

Hello new here,

I have seen blu-ray movies playing in the store that look incredible, but my own experience has not been that amazing. I am hoping someone can help.

My set up:
Blu-Ray Player = PS3 (latest update)
HDTV = Sony Bravia KDL-46VL130
Sony HDMI cable connecting them

I currently own The Dark Knight on blu-ray and although when I watch it, the picture looks really good, I have seen blu-rays in the store that blow me away. I can give two examples: first was Pirates of the caribbean and it was playing on a XBR2 running on a PS3. The second was yesterday I saw Lakeview Terrace on a sony KDL-40V4100 running some blu-ray player. Both of these how a "WOW" factor that I have never seen on my HDTV.

Is the difference the movie?
Do i not have something setup right?
Is my HDTV obsolete?

Thanks for any help.

I've read that Dark Knight is not the best movie to use to display blu-rays (or a TV's) potential picture quality.
post #1848 of 4143
I use my PS3 mostly for gaming, but tried it out the other day with a blu ray disk (max payne)

my settings- what most people recommend here on the forum (blu ray setup)


When playing the movie- my tv screen showed- top right hand corner "1080p 36bit" does this sound correct???? new to using it for blu ray.



my setup:Elite 111FD tv
elite vsx-94 receiver...


thanks.....
post #1849 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by soliloquist View Post

Hello new here,

I have seen blu-ray movies playing in the store that look incredible, but my own experience has not been that amazing. I am hoping someone can help.

My set up:
Blu-Ray Player = PS3 (latest update)
HDTV = Sony Bravia KDL-46VL130
Sony HDMI cable connecting them

I currently own The Dark Knight on blu-ray and although when I watch it, the picture looks really good, I have seen blu-rays in the store that blow me away. I can give two examples: first was Pirates of the caribbean and it was playing on a XBR2 running on a PS3. The second was yesterday I saw Lakeview Terrace on a sony KDL-40V4100 running some blu-ray player. Both of these how a "WOW" factor that I have never seen on my HDTV.

Is the difference the movie?
Do i not have something setup right?
Is my HDTV obsolete?

Thanks for any help.

It's several factors - 1) don't compare what you see in a store to what it 'should' look like since the TVs in showrooms typically have their settings turned up WAY high to make images stand out in a bright area and to attract people. The settings in stores are not the settings one would use in a home. 2) a professionally calibrated TV would show a difference compared to one that isn't - at minimum you should research your TV to see what settings other people have 3) yes the BD itself matters - some movies are transferred better than others. Dark Knight is great but some older movies available on BD are not 'that' much better than their DVD counterpart and 4) If your TV supports 1080p and can handle 24hz/3:2 pulldown correctly you'll also see a difference (but that also depends on how big your screen is, how far away you sit, your TV itself (LCD, vs plasma, etc) and the lighting in the room.
post #1850 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heckler 08 View Post

I use my PS3 mostly for gaming, but tried it out the other day with a blu ray disk (max payne)

my settings- what most people recommend here on the forum (blu ray setup)


When playing the movie- my tv screen showed- top right hand corner "1080p 36bit" does this sound correct???? new to using it for blu ray.

my setup:Elite 111FD tv
elite vsx-94 receiver...

Heckler 08 -- That's right. I have a Pioneer Kuro, too, a 6020, and when I play a BD on my PS3, "1080p 36bit" is exactly what is displayed on my screen. It has been the same whether I connect the PS3 directly to the 6020 or via my AV receiver, a Yamaha RX-V3900. The 3900 indicates that the PS3 is outputting at 1080p/24 bit.
post #1851 of 4143
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The 3900 indicates that the PS3 is outputting at 1080p/24 fps.

Your 3900 is displaying the fps, not the bit depth. Probably means its 1080p/24@36bit.
post #1852 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by KracsNZ View Post

Your 3900 is displaying the fps, not the bit depth. Probably means its 1080p/24@36bit.

That's correct, the "24" number indicated the framerate in Hz. My Pioneer Kuro shows, 1080p 36bit, which indicates the bandwidth. The 3900 actually shows 1080p@24Hz, not bit. I got fat fingered and inadvertently typed bit instead of Hz in my earlier post. Sorry for the confusion this might have caused, if any.
post #1853 of 4143
Why on earth was this link moved ? The link I had saved started with the 17th entry on the first page .
Now for whatever reason the moderators moved the info to here . I only realized this because I was trying to direct someone to the PS3 FAQ "official" thread and my old link was dead .
Really makes no sense to me .
post #1854 of 4143
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Originally Posted by sunburnwilly View Post

Why on earth was this link moved ? The link I had saved started with the 17th entry on the first page .
Now for whatever reason the moderators moved the info to here . I only realized this because I was trying to direct someone to the PS3 FAQ "official" thread and my old link was dead .
Really makes no sense to me .

THAT bugs me also. Actually #18

I think the moderators merged two threads together.
post #1855 of 4143
I realize this thread is mostly about BD playback, but does anyone have any tips on getting better DVD playback from the PS3? I've read some things that say the PS3 is not very good for playing back regular ol' DVDs, but most of the material you find through Google is quite dated (like before some of the recent firmware updates).

I have my PS3 connected through my Onkyo TX-SR706 receiver, to my Pioneer 5020, all through HDMI. I get a fantastic picture with Bluray discs and PS3 games, but DVDs look a bit soft, and not as detailed as they probably should be.

There's so many setting tweaks on the PS3...just wondering what I should have everything set to so I can get acceptable DVD playback.
post #1856 of 4143
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Originally Posted by Invader3 View Post

I realize this thread is mostly about BD playback, but does anyone have any tips on getting better DVD playback from the PS3? I've read some things that say the PS3 is not very good for playing back regular ol' DVDs, but most of the material you find through Google is quite dated (like before some of the recent firmware updates).

I have my PS3 connected through my Onkyo TX-SR706 receiver, to my Pioneer 5020, all through HDMI. I get a fantastic picture with Bluray discs and PS3 games, but DVDs look a bit soft, and not as detailed as they probably should be.

There's so many setting tweaks on the PS3...just wondering what I should have everything set to so I can get acceptable DVD playback.

As long as your PS3 has the latest firmware you're probably getting the best upconversion you're going to get from it. I'm not sure what you're expecting. Of course DVDs look "a bit soft." They have like 5x less picture information per frame.
post #1857 of 4143
I will say the picture looks better than it did with my Mitsubishi 48413. So I think you're probably right that it's just about the best picture I am going to get. It's just that in trying to research on the 'net, some people are saying they're getting great pictures with their PS3, and others say it's pretty crummy (but a lot of that info is rather dated). Just wondering if anyone has any other info.

I might try hooking up my older Zenith upconverting DVD player to the Pioneer plasma to see if that makes an improvement, or if it's really just the best I'm going to get on that TV. That usually gave us a very good picture on the Mitsubishi, and is currently working well with our 32" Samsung LCD in the bedoomr. That Zenith player is able to upconvert to 1080i via component video.
post #1858 of 4143
Quote:
Originally Posted by Invader3 View Post

I will say the picture looks better than it did with my Mitsubishi 48413. So I think you're probably right that it's just about the best picture I am going to get. It's just that in trying to research on the 'net, some people are saying they're getting great pictures with their PS3, and others say it's pretty crummy (but a lot of that info is rather dated). Just wondering if anyone has any other info.

I might try hooking up my older Zenith upconverting DVD player to the Pioneer plasma to see if that makes an improvement, or if it's really just the best I'm going to get on that TV. That usually gave us a very good picture on the Mitsubishi, and is currently working well with our 32" Samsung LCD in the bedoomr. That Zenith player is able to upconvert to 1080i via component video.

I JUST replaced my OPPO upcoverting to 1080i DVD Player with the latest PS3 and watched my 1st DVD Movie two nights ago.....I was VERY pleased with PQ, I thought it as good or probably better than the OPPO......and now/next I get to watch my 1st 1080P movie fm Netflix.
post #1859 of 4143
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Originally Posted by cyberized View Post

I JUST replaced my OPPO upcoverting to 1080i DVD Player with the latest PS3 and watched my 1st DVD Movie two nights ago.....I was VERY pleased with PQ, I thought it as good or probably better than the OPPO......and now/next I get to watch my 1st 1080P movie fm Netflix.

Cyberized -- I agree that the PS3 does an outstanding job of upconverting DVDs. I think the PQ of DVDs played on the PS3 are at least as good as they were on my old dedicated upconverting DVD player, a Momitsu. Be prepared for a treat when you get some BDs. Their PQ is like nothing else available.
post #1860 of 4143
You can also try bringing up the control panel during playback, go to the settings option and muck around in there. There's a few DNR settings (mosquito seems to work the best) that can help clean up some of the poorly mastered DVDs.
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