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post #2911 of 4146
7/22/09 at 5:43pm
Hey guys--I read the FAQ.
Here is my question:
I have a KRP-500M. It has a bug in its firmware where if it is set on AUTO it detect all RGB signals as 0-255. (Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr signals are detected correctly) I can manually set it to recieve RGB 16-235 though.

So, my question is will I get the correct Color space for both Games and movies if I have the PS3 display setting to "RGB full" the Bluray output to "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr" and the Kuro set to "AUTO?"
Thanks!
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post #2912 of 4146
7/24/09 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by -Kevin- View Post

Hey guys--I read the FAQ.
Here is my question:
I have a KRP-500M. It has a bug in its firmware where if it is set on AUTO it detect all RGB signals as 0-255. (Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr signals are detected correctly) I can manually set it to recieve RGB 16-235 though.

So, my question is will I get the correct Color space for both Games and movies if I have the PS3 display setting to "RGB full" the Bluray output to "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr" and the Kuro set to "AUTO?"
Thanks!

Yes - with your KRP-500M set to auto then setting the PS3 to "RGB Full" and also setting it to output in Y Pb Pr mode for BD playback would be correct.
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post #2913 of 4146
7/24/09 at 8:27pm
It's annoying to me that if I have a flash drive plugged in with several folders of music in it, the PS3 doesn't have a way to shuffle all music from all folders. I'd have to put all music into one big folder to have that functionality, but then I can't break it down by artist if I choose.
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post #2914 of 4146
7/24/09 at 8:38pm
Does anybody know somebody who knows somebody that can region free hack the PS3 so DVD's and Blu Ray are compatible from every region on the planet. Someone knows something and I'm going to get to the bottom of this.
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post #2915 of 4146
7/24/09 at 9:31pm
Hi all,

Not sure if this is the best thread to post this in, but here it goes...

I've read through the faq, as well as multiple other threads on this and other forums, and keep getting conflicting or confusing info on what the PS3 can and cannot decode internally.

My filtered down questions are:

Can the PS3 internally decode DTS ES 6.1 (that is discrete 6.1 channel, not matrixed DTS ES 5.1) from a DVD and pass this as 6.1 LPCM to an external surround processor over HDMI?

Likewise, can it internally decode DTS HD MA 6.1 (again, not 5.1) from a BD and pass this over HDMI to an external processor as 6.1 LPCM?

I get no sound playback in the above two scenarios, which leads me to believe the PS3 is not doing the decoding. Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks.
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post #2916 of 4146
7/24/09 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by xrayyou View Post

Hi all,

Not sure if this is the best thread to post this in, but here it goes...

I've read through the faq, as well as multiple other threads on this and other forums, and keep getting conflicting or confusing info on what the PS3 can and cannot decode internally.

My filtered down questions are:

Can the PS3 internally decode DTS ES 6.1 (that is discrete 6.1 channel, not matrixed DTS ES 5.1) from a DVD and pass this as 6.1 LPCM to an external surround processor over HDMI?

Likewise, can it internally decode DTS HD MA 6.1 (again, not 5.1) from a BD and pass this over HDMI to an external processor as 6.1 LPCM?

I get no sound playback in the above two scenarios, which leads me to believe the PS3 is not doing the decoding. Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks.

I would guess no. I would think it would pass a matrixed 5.1 over lpcm or 7.1 depending on what you have selected.
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post #2917 of 4146
7/24/09 at 10:10pm
I'm actually not sure what is being passed to my processor, the display says it's 2 ch, which I guess is PCM. There's no sound anyway.

Interestingly, the PS3 correctly identifies the encoded format in both scenarios, with the display showing either DTS ES (discrete) 6.1 or DTS HD MA 6.1. If it can identify and display the format, you think it could decode it.

And BTW, DTS ES (matrix) 5.1 and DTS HD MA 5.1 are both internally decoded in the PS3 and play back normally.
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post #2918 of 4146
7/25/09 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by Dan P. View Post

If the player has a 4:3 "squeeze mode" (it may be called something else), then enable it. Many players do 4:3 squeeze by default. I think the PS3 does.

Thanks for the post. I've looked, but don't see a 4:3 squeeze mode option anywhere in my PS3 menu.

Does anyone know if the PS3 can do 4:3 squeeze, so I can keep my TV set on "wide" mode, even for 4:3 material?
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post #2919 of 4146
7/25/09 at 12:11pm
I have a crap load of Karaoke songs in the MP3 + CGD format that I can play thru my computer using Winamp. Is there a way to play these thru the PS3? I did
run thru Java Media Player but the PS3 did not recognize the CGD extension in either the Music or Video area.

I do have and old CD burner that is able to burn Karaoke disc. Is this my only option?

I searched the thread but couldn't find anything on this. Please redirect me if I'm in the wrong place
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post #2920 of 4146
7/26/09 at 5:36pm
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Originally Posted by TonyInSH View Post

Thanks for the post. I've looked, but don't see a 4:3 squeeze mode option anywhere in my PS3 menu.

Does anyone know if the PS3 can do 4:3 squeeze, so I can keep my TV set on "wide" mode, even for 4:3 material?

Please provide some more info on your setup.

- are you talking about when playing full screen (3 x 4 aspect ratio) DVDs?

- is the PS3 set to upscale DVDs to HD resolution (e.g., 1080p)?

- is the PS3 connected to your HDTV via HDMI?

- is your HDTV's screen 16 x 9 (make and model of HDTV could be helpful)?

- have you set up the PS3 for a 16 x 9 display?

- do widescreen DVDs (and BDs) display correctly with 16 x 9 aspect ratio on your HDTV?
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post #2921 of 4146
7/27/09 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post

Please provide some more info on your setup.

My PS3 is hooked up via component cables to an older Samsung 1280x720 DLP TV (no HDMI option).

16x9 content is sent to the TV "squeezed" (I'm not sure of the technical term, hopefully you know what mean) so the TV need to be in "wide" mode.

4x3 content is sent to the TV unsqueezed, so the TV needs to be in "normal" mode.

It's not the end of the world, but it's a bit of a pain switching the TV setting back and forth depending upon the content. Other than this minor annoyance, everything works fine as far as I can tell.

An earlier poster suggesting there might be a "4:3 squeeze" mode in the PS3 that would allow 4:3 content to be played in "wide" mode on my TV.

Hope this makes sense. Thanks for any help,
Tony
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post #2922 of 4146
7/27/09 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by CRAW View Post

I think I need to look into returning my PS3 to Sony to get it fixed. I'm having WAY to many problems with my PS3 and BD's and the unit is only 3 months old. Anyone know of a link to where the return instructions are?

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Originally Posted by bguzman View Post

Here you go.
https://service1.us.playstation.com/...8-D7BB1398C1B4

Update: Maybe this will help someone out sometime... I called Sony tech support last night, and they had some troubleshooting tips for me, but to no avail, BD's would still not load in my three month old PS3. I told them I didn't have a receipt, but I did have my credit card statement (w/ transaction number) and they said that would work! So now they are shipping me a box to return the unit, and will ship me a refurb (more than likely) for free. I'm pretty excited!

If you buy one of these, or anything thing else of value for that matter, keep your receipt! I foolishly lost mine. Thanks to Sony for honoring my Visa statement.
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post #2923 of 4146
7/27/09 at 7:47am
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I'm looking for hope that my horse is still kicking.

I've read all of the dying BluRay posts with recommendations to replace the laser and solve all problems. But I'm hoping to avoid that. I discovered on Friday that my wife starts a BluRay while feeding our son, and then pauses, leaving the player running between feedings so she can just push play 4 hours later to pick up where she left off. I asked her not to do that anymore, but the first movie I popped in Friday night (Role Models) wouldn't play for more than 5 minutes without freezing up. After restarting the PS3 6 or 7 times to make it 15 minutes into the movie, I quit, and started cycling discs that I knew worked. After 10 minutes of Harry Potter:OTP on DVD and 10 minutes of Iron Man on BluRay, I popped Role Models back in and it played to within 5 minutes of the end, and I gave up for the night.

I haven't tried a bluray since then, but dvd's have played without a hitch (predictably). The part of my brain that wants to hangonto $150 dollars is constructing a case that the unit was dusty and playing the upscale DVD kicked up the fan and cleared things up for the bluray laser (or something like that).

The pessimistic part of my brain is trying to figure out if I have the skill to replace a failed laser myself to save $70.

Anyone want to weigh in for either theory, or provide any tips for extending the life of a failing bluray laser? It has frozen up on blurays before, but never more than twice on 1 movie. It's an 80 GB MGS4 bundle that I've had for @10 months.

Any advice or commiseration would be appreciated. I'm willing to try just about anything once.
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post #2924 of 4146
7/27/09 at 8:06am
What firmware are you running? I would think if your laser were failing it would be completely unable to read any Blu-ray discs.

Brandon
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post #2925 of 4146
7/27/09 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by TonyInSH View Post

My PS3 is hooked up via component cables to an older Samsung 1280x720 DLP TV (no HDMI option).

16x9 content is sent to the TV "squeezed" (I'm not sure of the technical term, hopefully you know what mean) so the TV need to be in "wide" mode.

4x3 content is sent to the TV unsqueezed, so the TV needs to be in "normal" mode.

It's not the end of the world, but it's a bit of a pain switching the TV setting back and forth depending upon the content. Other than this minor annoyance, everything works fine as far as I can tell.

An earlier poster suggesting there might be a "4:3 squeeze" mode in the PS3 that would allow 4:3 content to be played in "wide" mode on my TV.

Doesn't your DLP have a DVI input? You can use a HDMI to DVI cable if the DVI input has HDCP support.

The problem you are having with component for DVD is that the PS3 or any other licensed DVD player can only output copy protected content at 480 lines of resolution. If you used HDMI the PS3 would upconvert the DVD to 720p or 1080 lines of resolution and follow the disc's anamorphic flags to properly send the image.
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post #2926 of 4146
7/27/09 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by WhatHappend View Post

Doesn't your DLP have a DVI input? You can use a HDMI to DVI cable if the DVI input has HDCP support.

The problem you are having with component for DVD is that the PS3 or any other licensed DVD player can only output copy protected content at 480 lines of resolution. If you used HDMI the PS3 would upconvert the DVD to 720p or 1080 lines of resolution and follow the disc's anamorphic flags to properly send the image.

Are you are saying that I am not really seeing any benefit from watching BluRay movies on my hi def tv because it isnt in true 1080i but in 480?

Please dont take my question wrong, I simply have never heard that before. Please elaborate so I can better understand.
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post #2927 of 4146
7/27/09 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by Devil98 View Post

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I'm looking for hope that my horse is still kicking.

I've read all of the dying BluRay posts with recommendations to replace the laser and solve all problems. But I'm hoping to avoid that. I discovered on Friday that my wife starts a BluRay while feeding our son, and then pauses, leaving the player running between feedings so she can just push play 4 hours later to pick up where she left off. I asked her not to do that anymore, but the first movie I popped in Friday night (Role Models) wouldn't play for more than 5 minutes without freezing up. After restarting the PS3 6 or 7 times to make it 15 minutes into the movie, I quit, and started cycling discs that I knew worked. After 10 minutes of Harry Potter:OTP on DVD and 10 minutes of Iron Man on BluRay, I popped Role Models back in and it played to within 5 minutes of the end, and I gave up for the night.

I haven't tried a bluray since then, but dvd's have played without a hitch (predictably). The part of my brain that wants to hangonto $150 dollars is constructing a case that the unit was dusty and playing the upscale DVD kicked up the fan and cleared things up for the bluray laser (or something like that).

The pessimistic part of my brain is trying to figure out if I have the skill to replace a failed laser myself to save $70.

Anyone want to weigh in for either theory, or provide any tips for extending the life of a failing bluray laser? It has frozen up on blurays before, but never more than twice on 1 movie. It's an 80 GB MGS4 bundle that I've had for @10 months.

Any advice or commiseration would be appreciated. I'm willing to try just about anything once.

Isn't it frustrating?! You're still under warranty @ 10 months old, but I'm assuming you can't find your proof of purchase? I called Sony and they were willing to take my credit card statement as a proof of purchase. It's worth a shot.

I wish you the best. There's nothing worse than electronics going bad.
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post #2928 of 4146
7/27/09 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by Ctrl@ltDel View Post

Are you are saying that I am not really seeing any benefit from watching BluRay movies on my hi def tv because it isnt in true 1080i but in 480?

Please dont take my question wrong, I simply have never heard that before. Please elaborate so I can better understand.

Bluray movies are all output in full HiDef over component for the time being (there is a flag the studio's can set when they master a Bluray movie, so that the player can't output HiDef over analog but they have agreed to not set that flag for the time being).

It is DVD movies that are only output at 480 lines of resolution over analog outputs.
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post #2929 of 4146
7/27/09 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

What firmware are you running?

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but typically this is the first thing one tries when having problems w/ his/her PS3.
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post #2930 of 4146
7/27/09 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by CRAW View Post

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but typically this is the first thing one tries when having problems w/ his/her PS3.

I don't mean to sound like a jerk either. I'm simply trying to help out.

Brandon
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post #2931 of 4146
7/27/09 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

I don't mean to sound like a jerk either. I'm simply trying to help out.

Brandon

Thanks, Brandon

I appreciate the help. I'm running 2.80. Not sure how many bluray movies I've watched since the last update, but I don't think anything has frozen up in a month or more. The fact that it still plays blurays is why I'm asking for help, since I don't think anyone has asked about that yet.

CRAW, thanks for the commiseration. I haven't called Sony yet, bcz I purchased a refurb through eBay. I registered it when I got it, but I'm not sure what, if any, warranty I would be eligible for given the nature of the purchase.

And to add data to the scenario, we tried to watch Milk tonight on bluray. It froze during the opening credits. Reboot, made it 25 minutes into the movie before it froze again. Rebooted and got another 30 seconds before freezing up. Now I'm back here to see what the collected wisdom of the interweb can do for me.

Thanks,
Jason
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post #2932 of 4146
7/27/09 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by WhatHappend View Post

Doesn't your DLP have a DVI input? You can use a HDMI to DVI cable if the DVI input has HDCP support.

The problem you are having with component for DVD is that the PS3 or any other licensed DVD player can only output copy protected content at 480 lines of resolution. If you used HDMI the PS3 would upconvert the DVD to 720p or 1080 lines of resolution and follow the disc's anamorphic flags to properly send the image.

Thanks. It does have DVI. But I'm pretty sure it's very early DVI before HDCP. It's a 2002 TV. I checked, and there is no mention of HDCP in the manual. Any chance it can be used with the PS3?
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post #2933 of 4146
7/27/09 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by TonyInSH View Post

Thanks. It does have DVI. But I'm pretty sure it's very early DVI before HDCP. It's a 2002 TV. I checked, and there is no mention of HDCP in the manual. Any chance it can be used with the PS3?

Did you search your TV model number and HDCP to see what you find?

According to Silicon Image's press releases in Sept 2002 their DVI-HDCP chipset was used in various SAMSUNG tv's.

Here are the DLP model numbers: HLM437W and HLM507W

http://www.siliconimage.com/news/rel...ls.aspx?id=130

I would doubt that any non-HDCP digital connection could play at full resolution on the PS3. Has anybody tired with a non-HDCP DVI monitor?

EDIT: I have read that non-HDCP monitors will not work at all. You can always add HDCP to your SAMSUNG for about $199 with the HDFURY2.
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post #2934 of 4146
7/28/09 at 5:11am
Quick question.
My friend has a 40Gb PS3 around 18 months old, with moderate use, well ventilated. Firmware is 2.6

When any disc is inserted, nothing happens - No autoplay, no disc icon.
Pressing Play on the remote also does nothing. I've tried powering off and moving the console.


Certainly seems there's a problem with the drive. Is there nothing else I can try to wake it up, or should we give up and sent it off to Sony?

Thanks in advance.
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post #2935 of 4146
7/28/09 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by Devil98 View Post

Thanks, Brandon

I appreciate the help. I'm running 2.80. Not sure how many bluray movies I've watched since the last update, but I don't think anything has frozen up in a month or more. The fact that it still plays blurays is why I'm asking for help, since I don't think anyone has asked about that yet.

CRAW, thanks for the commiseration. I haven't called Sony yet, bcz I purchased a refurb through eBay. I registered it when I got it, but I'm not sure what, if any, warranty I would be eligible for given the nature of the purchase.

And to add data to the scenario, we tried to watch Milk tonight on bluray. It froze during the opening credits. Reboot, made it 25 minutes into the movie before it froze again. Rebooted and got another 30 seconds before freezing up. Now I'm back here to see what the collected wisdom of the interweb can do for me.

Thanks,
Jason

That's how mine started acting up, and then it wouldn't play/load BD's at all. I would say contact Sony...
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post #2936 of 4146
7/28/09 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by CRAW View Post

That's how mine started acting up, and then it wouldn't play/load BD's at all. I would say contact Sony...

Thanks. I guess it can't hurt, unless Sony has started repo ing units sold through unauthorized dealers. Probably best not to give them any ideas about that, though.
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post #2937 of 4146
7/28/09 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by Devil98 View Post

Thanks. I guess it can't hurt, unless Sony has started repo ing units sold through unauthorized dealers. Probably best not to give them any ideas about that, though.

You might just have to pay the $150 they charge, if you're out of warranty. Which really isn't all that much considering what the PS3 does.
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post #2938 of 4146
7/28/09 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by CRAW View Post

You might just have to pay the $150 they charge, if you're out of warranty. Which really isn't all that much considering what the PS3 does.

Thanks. Anyone know how long it takes to ship it to them and get it back?

I may need to pick up the cheapest bluray player I can find to carry me through the gap. Then I can put it in another room after the PS3 returns.
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post #2939 of 4146
7/28/09 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by WhatHappend View Post

Did you search your TV model number and HDCP to see what you find?

According to Silicon Image's press releases in Sept 2002 their DVI-HDCP chipset was used in various SAMSUNG tv's.

Here are the DLP model numbers: HLM437W and HLM507W

Best I can tell, DHCP was quietly added mid-way through the HLM's product run. Digging through old posts, there's a not from Samsung that 2002 HLM's don't have HDCP, and a couple posts from HLM owners saying they don't have HDCP. But there are other posts from HLM owners saying they did.

I figure it's worth the price of a cable to find out. Do I need to do anything other than order one of these http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 , hook it up and see if it works?

PS - Just as amusing antidote, part of me is thinking that if I hook the PS3 up to the DVI port, that means I have to move my HTPC over to the VGA port. Which means I have to unhook the Dreamcast from the VGA port Yes, I have a 7 year old TV and spend more time on the Dreamcast than the PS3.
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post #2940 of 4146
7/28/09 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by Devil98 View Post

Thanks. Anyone know how long it takes to ship it to them and get it back?

I may need to pick up the cheapest bluray player I can find to carry me through the gap. Then I can put it in another room after the PS3 returns.

I was told 7 to (I think) 12 days after Sony gets my PS3. I have still to get my return box from Sony, but it's only been two days.
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