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post #4141 of 4476
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

My suggestion is a Harmony remote and PS3 adapter. Makes everything simple for everyone.

I must have missed something. Can you please explain how this would fix my issue? I have no problem controlling the device just want audio when the receiver is on at full capabilities and decent sound when sound is routed to the TV.
post #4142 of 4476
It would fix your issue by making it so that nobody has to interact with anything but the remote and the game system. Press "Play PS3" and bang, every component in your system configures itself for that combination. And nobody every has to listen to crappy TV speakers again.

You asked for suggestions.

If you don't like mine, ignore it, and go with one of the many others you've received.
post #4143 of 4476
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

It would fix your issue by making it so that nobody has to interact with anything but the remote and the game system. Press "Play PS3" and bang, every component in your system configures itself for that combination. And nobody every has to listen to crappy TV speakers again.

You asked for suggestions.

If you don't like mine, ignore it, and go with one of the many others you've received.

Sorry didn't mean to come off as rude or anything. And while I would ban TV speakers from my house they still have their place since the matter bedroom is right above the TV room. And since kids get up waaaaay to early these days I an trying to accomplish the best of both worlds plus trying to have save some energy as the receiver and two subs would be turned on. So thank you for the suggestion, and now with a bit more insight into the situation would you happen to have another?

Also do you know if a harmony could maybe be programmed to change the settings on the fly? Maybe some discrete codes?
post #4144 of 4476
Was watching blu ray last night with PS3 (original) 60G with HDMI connected to 5.1 receiver with ps3 at lpcm. The sound effects were great but dialogue was lacking. The movie was Dolby True HD. I had no extra processing going, DRC on PS3 was off, off on receiver, and receiver was set to straight. I turned the center channel up to no avail. I know the PS3 can't bitstream HD Sound but I switched to Bitstream and although the sound effects were not as good LPCM the dialogue was great. This happens with every movie, Blu-ray/dvd and every Sound Codec. Is there something wrong with the PS3 that dialogue sounds so bad on LPCM?
post #4145 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

Was watching blu ray last night with PS3 (original) 60G with HDMI connected to 5.1 receiver with ps3 at lpcm. The sound effects were great but dialogue was lacking. The movie was Dolby True HD. I had no extra processing going, DRC on PS3 was off, off on receiver, and receiver was set to straight. I turned the center channel up to no avail. I know the PS3 can't bitstream HD Sound but I switched to Bitstream and although the sound effects were not as good LPCM the dialogue was great. This happens with every movie, Blu-ray/dvd and every Sound Codec. Is there something wrong with the PS3 that dialogue sounds so bad on LPCM?

This probably doesn't help, but I had something similar with my Onkyo receiver. I had to switch the Onkyo to "Direct" to get the dialogue.
post #4146 of 4476
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Originally Posted by RobertWy View Post

This probably doesn't help, but I had something similar with my Onkyo receiver. I had to switch the Onkyo to "Direct" to get the dialogue.

I don't have a direct mode on my receiver (RX-V373 Yamaha) just "straight". That's what I use. I've calibrated using YPAO and turned up the Center about 3dBs more than the mains. I did some further testing today with a DTS-MA Blu-Ray and bitstream sucked compared to LPCM. The Bitstream (DTS) sounded to "crunchy" and not as defined compared to the smoothness and punchiness of the LPCM (DTS-MA). I noticed on my PS3 settings that the DRC has three settings, off, on, and automatic. Automatic and off didn't do much but ON seemed to raise the dialogue a little. I also raised the volume control to +1. It sounded better but still can't figure out why the dialogue is so low compared to the rest of the soundtrack.

UPDATE: I think I figured it out, at least I hope so. I watched Iron Man 2 on Blu-Ray last night and it sounded fine, (DTS-MA). DRC off, LPCM, and Straight on my receiver.
Edited by Justin Sullins - 5/20/13 at 9:03am
post #4147 of 4476
Quick question on Netflix/Original PS3. When I watch a movie on Netflix with DD 5.1+ it just says Dolby Digital on my receiver with no +. My receiver can decode DD+, (RX-V373 Yamaha). Does anyone have this issue?
post #4148 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

Quick question on Netflix/Original PS3. When I watch a movie on Netflix with DD 5.1+ it just says Dolby Digital on my receiver with no +. My receiver can decode DD+, (RX-V373 Yamaha). Does anyone have this issue?
slim ps3 with a pioneer SC-1222 and I get the DD+ designation.
post #4149 of 4476
I just called Playstation and they confirmed that DD+ does not work on Original PS3 with Netflix. Sucks.
On a side-note I think I'm going to get the BDP-S790 Sony Blu-Ray Player. It seems like one of the better Blu-Ray Players out there, other than Oppo.
post #4150 of 4476
This might be OT, but I don't know where else to ask about this.

For the last few weeks (I think since the last update) Netflix streaming is marred (actually, unwatchable) by video freezes every few seconds - it seems like a buffering effect, but might not be.
I've tried uninstalling and re-installing the Netflix program, but that doesn't help. Also cleaned out the BD Utility, but that didn't help either.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
post #4151 of 4476
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Originally Posted by d3193 View Post

This might be OT, but I don't know where else to ask about this.

For the last few weeks (I think since the last update) Netflix streaming is marred (actually, unwatchable) by video freezes every few seconds - it seems like a buffering effect, but might not be.
I've tried uninstalling and re-installing the Netflix program, but that doesn't help. Also cleaned out the BD Utility, but that didn't help either.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Sounds like a Netflix Issue or your internet. Is your PS3 connected via Ethernet? I would call Netflix and complain. I've never had one drop or freeze when watching via PS3. I had Tivo with Netflix, both PS3 and Tivo connected to router with Ethernet, and Tivo gave me fits with Netflix. Every time would drop or freeze but PS3 was fine. It's sometimes hard to figure out which one is the problem but I'd call Netflix 1st.
post #4152 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

Sounds like a Netflix Issue or your internet. Is your PS3 connected via Ethernet? I would call Netflix and complain. I've never had one drop or freeze when watching via PS3. I had Tivo with Netflix, both PS3 and Tivo connected to router with Ethernet, and Tivo gave me fits with Netflix. Every time would drop or freeze but PS3 was fine. It's sometimes hard to figure out which one is the problem but I'd call Netflix 1st.

Until recently I had near perfect Netflix streaming. It's a wired connection and the download speed, as measured by the PS3, is around 16Mb/s.
post #4153 of 4476
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Originally Posted by d3193 View Post

Until recently I had near perfect Netflix streaming. It's a wired connection and the download speed, as measured by the PS3, is around 16Mb/s.

That would point to Netflix. When you press select during move on Netflix what does the information say? Usually says 720p/1080i/p/X-HD in top-left corner. Are you able to get the max resolution?
post #4154 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

That would point to Netflix. When you press select during move on Netflix what does the information say? Usually says 720p/1080i/p/X-HD in top-left corner. Are you able to get the max resolution?

As somoene who supplies equipment to ISP Carriers -

YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT TRICKS THEY PLAY WITH NETFLIX DATA.

It could very well be the carrier creating the problem.
post #4155 of 4476
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

As somoene who supplies equipment to ISP Carriers -

YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT TRICKS THEY PLAY WITH NETFLIX DATA.

It could very well be the carrier creating the problem.

It's hard to pinpoint who is actually creating the problem, (Netflix, device, or internet). They all blame the other.
post #4156 of 4476
Could also be the router limiting speed if there are multiple users etc....
post #4157 of 4476
Re: Netflix Streaming

I realized I could also check Netflix streaming on my computer, which uses the same wired internet connection as my PS3 (i.e. all elements identical except computer vs. PS3). There was no problem on the computer, so it had to be the PS3. I had already guessed that to be the case, or there would be many others posting about this problem.

I called PS3 tech support, got through without too much trouble, and was asked to un-install and then re-install the Netflix program on my PS3. I had already tried this myself, to no avail. However, when I did it this time, the problem disappeared! Maybe having the tech on the phone was the magic bullet. He said that if it happens again I should try two things: 1) reboot my modem; 2) disconnect the PS3 from both the internet and AC power for a minimum of 2 minutes, then try again.

Thanks everyone for your input. I can now finish watching House of Cards.
post #4158 of 4476
I noticed I get super hd on my Samsung BD player (BD-E5900) but just 'regular' HD on my PS3. Both are using the same internet connection (wireless from my router/cable modem).
post #4159 of 4476
I have PS3, original 60G, hooked up via HDMI 1.4 to Yamaha 5.1 Receiver. Everything sounds great. I have PS3 set as LPCM with no extra sound processing like DRC but I have always been told when using PCM to set the Volume Control on the PS3 to +1 instead of Normal. Could I achieve the same effect by keeping Volume Control at Normal and just turning up my Receiver or should I leave Volume Control at +1?
post #4160 of 4476
I have a question about digital stereo output from the PS3 when playing Blu-rays. I have a DAC / preamp that accepts only 2-channel PCM (ie it cannot decode Dolby). So whatever Blu-ray player I use, I set to output PCM and to do so only in stereo.

The FAQ on the first page suggests that if the Blu-ray audio track is in a lossless format (eg TrueHD, DTS HD-MA), then the PS3 will output lossless 2-channel PCM over Toslink (when set to output LPCM).

Does this mean there will be no technical difference between the 2-channel PCM optical output of these formats from the PS3 compared with, for example, an Oppo BDP-103? In other words, is there any difference in the stereo downmixing quality between these players? If the PS3 is truly outputting lossless 2-channel PCM in these cases, and the Oppo does as well, then presumably there should be no difference?
post #4161 of 4476
^^ Correct, there should be no difference when downmixing multichannel Dolby and DTS tracks, as the downmixing is controlled by the metadata. There may be some difference when the source track is multichannel PCM, although it is not clear what that difference may be.
post #4162 of 4476
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

I noticed I get super hd on my Samsung BD player (BD-E5900) but just 'regular' HD on my PS3. Both are using the same internet connection (wireless from my router/cable modem).

PS3 has notoriously bad wi-fi.
post #4163 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I have PS3, original 60G, hooked up via HDMI 1.4 to Yamaha 5.1 Receiver. Everything sounds great. I have PS3 set as LPCM with no extra sound processing like DRC but I have always been told when using PCM to set the Volume Control on the PS3 to +1 instead of Normal. Could I achieve the same effect by keeping Volume Control at Normal and just turning up my Receiver or should I leave Volume Control at +1?

Where were you told to set the control at +1?
post #4164 of 4476
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Originally Posted by bradman View Post

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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

I noticed I get super hd on my Samsung BD player (BD-E5900) but just 'regular' HD on my PS3. Both are using the same internet connection (wireless from my router/cable modem).

PS3 has notoriously bad wi-fi.
Yep, the wi-fi receiver in the first few rounds of PS3s were notoriously poor. I believe they upgraded the wi-fi chip in one of the later PS3 iterations.
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Originally Posted by bradman View Post

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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I have PS3, original 60G, hooked up via HDMI 1.4 to Yamaha 5.1 Receiver. Everything sounds great. I have PS3 set as LPCM with no extra sound processing like DRC but I have always been told when using PCM to set the Volume Control on the PS3 to +1 instead of Normal. Could I achieve the same effect by keeping Volume Control at Normal and just turning up my Receiver or should I leave Volume Control at +1?

Where were you told to set the control at +1?
I've never heard of setting it at +1, it is supposed to introduce distortion when that volume is altered from neutral.
post #4165 of 4476
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Originally Posted by bradman View Post

Where were you told to set the control at +1?

I don't remember who told me but it was definitely in AVS. I believe most of the distortions come from it being at +2. I've since put it normal but I had it at +1 for a while and never heard distortions but can tell the difference between +1 and Normal and Normal sounds better. Now I just turn my receiver up 2 or 3dB more to compensate.
post #4166 of 4476
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Originally Posted by bradman View Post

PS3 has notoriously bad wi-fi.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

Yep, the wi-fi receiver in the first few rounds of PS3s were notoriously poor. I believe they upgraded the wi-fi chip in one of the later PS3 iterations.

I have the 160GB Slim model if that helps and I've also tried a wired connection, which still doesn't give me super HD.
post #4167 of 4476
Whenever I play PS3 Games it always says PCM on my receiver. I only have a 5.1 system so I went into the sound settings on PS3 and unchecked all the 7.1 boxes. My receiver now reads Dolby Digital for PS3 Games and it sounds a heck of a lot better and smoother than PCM or whatever the PS3 was doing with it. I'm very OCD about this stuff and I could definitely tell a difference. I've also noticed that when I watch Directv Content it also reads Dolby on receiver and sounds a little smoother and not as "crunchy" as PS3 Blu-Rays even though the Blu-Rays are DTS-MA and DD True HD. I don't know how true this is but when I called Tech Support for my receiver the guy mentioned that the PS3 is not decoding the audio as good as the receiver would do and that's why sound on Blu-Rays is more brash and crunchy compared to stuff the receiver is decoding. Any thoughts?
post #4168 of 4476
Sorry, but there's no such thing as one device decoding the same sound track better than another. However, you may be applying different processing to the PCM after the decoding, which could account for differences.
post #4169 of 4476
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

Sorry, but there's no such thing as one device decoding the same sound track better than another. However, you may be applying different processing to the PCM after the decoding, which could account for differences.

Yea, I didn't think that was the case but it does sound better when the receiver decodes it. I don't have any extras being applied on the receiver or the PS3.
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