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post #4411 of 4476
I've updated the PS3 FAQ, post #2 of this thread, to indicate the latest firmware version is 4.50.
post #4412 of 4476
So, I have a VT60, and plan to use my PS3 to watch Blu-Rays and play games only. I haven't calibrated my TV yet, but plan to do it with the Disney WOW and Spears & Munsil discs. Do I benefit in any way from changing the RGB setting from 'Limited' to 'Full'?
post #4413 of 4476
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Originally Posted by prodan View Post

So, I have a VT60, and plan to use my PS3 to watch Blu-Rays and play games only. I haven't calibrated my TV yet, but plan to do it with the Disney WOW and Spears & Munsil discs. Do I benefit in any way from changing the RGB setting from 'Limited' to 'Full'?

No, for games and movies "Limited" is the correct setting.
post #4414 of 4476
I need some help fellas. I've been using an external usb drive (external dc power) for a while now with my ps3, but all of a sudden the ps3 won't recognize it. I have used the exact same drive extensively before and I have made no changes to the drive. When I say won't recognize, I mean it will nto even show up in the xmb menu bar. I tried connecting a 2.5" external drive last week and that seems to be when these problems developed. The PS3 would not recognize the 2.5" drive every time and not won't at all. The only usb devices it recognizes are thumb drives and the controllers Any suggestions guys?.
post #4415 of 4476
I would suggest that you perform a system reset on the PS3 (search on here or at the Sony PS3 Support page for detailed instructions).
post #4416 of 4476

PS3 as a Substitue

Why is so damn hard to find the HDMI specs of the latest PS3 Super Slim!

Do any of you know if the latest iteration of the PS3 - the Super Slim - ships with an HDMI 1.4 port? I know there were issues (audio downsampling) with the older PS3 models that had HDMI 1.3 ports, but Wikipedia says that the latest PS3s ship with HDMI 1.4.

I'm thinking about get a PS3 as a blu ray player assuming it now has an HDMI 1.4 port.

Any input from you guys is appreciated. Thanks!
post #4417 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Phanes View Post

Why is so damn hard to find the HDMI specs of the latest PS3 Super Slim!

Do any of you know if the latest iteration of the PS3 - the Super Slim - ships with an HDMI 1.4 port? I know there were issues (audio downsampling) with the older PS3 models that had HDMI 1.3 ports, but Wikipedia says that the latest PS3s ship with HDMI 1.4.

I'm thinking about get a PS3 as a blu ray player assuming it now has an HDMI 1.4 port.

Any input from you guys is appreciated. Thanks!

Yes with the advent of 3D bluray, the Slim PS3 uses 1.4a for HDMI ports. All PS3's built from the slim lineup in I believe 2010 and later uses it, where as the phat PS3 did not
post #4418 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Phanes View Post

Why is so damn hard to find the HDMI specs of the latest PS3 Super Slim!

Do any of you know if the latest iteration of the PS3 - the Super Slim - ships with an HDMI 1.4 port? I know there were issues (audio downsampling) with the older PS3 models that had HDMI 1.3 ports, but Wikipedia says that the latest PS3s ship with HDMI 1.4.

I'm thinking about get a PS3 as a blu ray player assuming it now has an HDMI 1.4 port.

Any input from you guys is appreciated. Thanks!

I have several Bluray players and my PS3 Slim 120 has a lot of color adjustments most consumer bluray players don't offer, you will really like it.

From Wikipedia

Version 1.3[edit]
See also: HDMI 1.3a Specifications
HDMI 1.3 was released June 22, 2006 and increased the single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbit/s).[2][46][137] It optionally supports deep color, with 30-bit, 36-bit and 48-bit xvYCC, sRGB, or YCbCr, compared to 24-bit sRGB or YCbCr in previous HDMI versions. It also optionally supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.[138] It incorporates automatic audio syncing (audio video sync) capability.[46] It defined cable Categories 1 and 2, with Category 1 cable being tested up to 74.25 MHz and Category 2 being tested up to 340 MHz.[120] It also added the new type C Mini connector for portable devices.[108][139]
HDMI 1.3a was released on November 10, 2006 and had Cable and Sink modifications for type C, source termination recommendations, and removed undershoot and maximum rise/fall time limits.[2] It also changed CEC capacitance limits, clarified sRGB video quantization range, and CEC commands for timer control were brought back in an altered form, with audio control commands added.[2] It also added support for optionally streaming SACD in its bitstream DST format rather than uncompressed raw DSD like from HDMI 1.2 onwards.[2]
HDMI 1.3b, 1.3b1 and 1.3c were released on March 26, 2007, November 9, 2007, and August 25, 2008 respectively. They do not introduce differences on HDMI features, functions, or performance,[140] but only describe testing for products based on the HDMI 1.3a specification regarding HDMI compliance (1.3b [101][141][142]), the HDMI type C Mini connector (1.3b1 [101][141][142]) and active HDMI cables (1.3c [127][143]).[140]
Version 1.4[edit]


HDMI 1.4 with Audio Return Channel
HDMI 1.4 was released on May 28, 2009, and the first HDMI 1.4 products were available in the second half of 2009.[112][144] HDMI 1.4 increases the maximum resolution to 4K × 2K, i.e. 3840×2160 (4K Ultra HD) at 24 Hz/25 Hz/30 Hz or 4096×2160 at 24 Hz (which is a resolution used with digital theaters); adds an HDMI Ethernet Channel (HEC), which allows for a 100 Mbit/s Ethernet connection between the two HDMI connected devices so they can share an Internet connection;[60] and introduces an Audio Return Channel (ARC),[59] 3D Over HDMI, a new Micro HDMI Connector, expanded support for color spaces, with the addition of sYCC601, Adobe RGB and Adobe YCC601; and an Automotive Connection System.[112][145][146][147][148] HDMI 1.4 supports several stereoscopic 3D formats including field alternative (interlaced), frame packing (a full resolution top-bottom format), line alternative full, side-by-side half, side-by-side full, 2D + depth, and 2D + depth + graphics + graphics depth (WOWvx),[110][149][150] with additional top/bottom formats added in version 1.4a. HDMI 1.4 requires that 3D displays support the frame packing 3D format at either 720p50 and 1080p24 or 720p60 and 1080p24.[150] High Speed HDMI 1.3 cables can support all HDMI 1.4 features except for the HDMI Ethernet Channel.[110][149][150]
HDMI 1.4a was released on March 4, 2010 and adds two additional mandatory 3D formats for broadcast content, which was deferred with HDMI 1.4 in order to see the direction of the 3D broadcast market.[151][152] HDMI 1.4a has defined mandatory 3D formats for broadcast, game, and movie content.[151] HDMI 1.4a requires that 3D displays support the frame packing 3D format at either 720p50 and 1080p24 or 720p60 and 1080p24, side-by-side horizontal at either 1080i50 or 1080i60, and top-and-bottom at either 720p50 and 1080p24 or 720p60 and 1080p24.[152]
HDMI 1.4b was released on October 11, 2011.[153] One of the new features is that it adds support to 3D 1080p video at 120 Hz -allowing frame packing 3D format at 1080p60 per Eye (120 Hz total) .[154] All future versions of the HDMI specification will be made by the HDMI Forum that was created on October 25, 2011.[43][155]
post #4419 of 4476

PS3 vs My HTPC straight questions

Hi all,

Have been doing this for a long time but am not a complete technical nut about audio quality to the point that I spend thousands of dollars on speakers etc. But I am a computer networking engineer and have a pretty deep understanding of computer side of HTPC play back of HD Video and audio. I consider what I have set up to be pretty good by my ears and while I am getting older I can still generally tell the difference between good audio and lousy compressed audio.

I have had a PS3 since the original came out and I use it as my primary Bluray player. I also take the BluRays that I watch frequently and have turned some of them into MKV's.

I know this lowers the video quality and that is not in question or at all up for debate. My point for bringing it up is that when I convert these to MKV I have tried various things of audio. But mainly I retain the DTS MA HD or the Dolby True HD etc as the original audio un-altered.

Now we come to the crux of my situation. What other than the DAC inside the PS3 would contribute to it sounding noticeably better and fuller when it is playing the same audio stream as XBMC both through HDMI into the same receiver etc.

Again I fully understand all of the moving parts when dealing with playback and configuration of these formats through a PC and have literally, many years of experience doing this. So this is not a simple configuration issue, in fact I am fairly certain its likely a basic difference it the playback of audio from XBMC as opposed to a dedicated player.

I am simply trying to understand if anything on the PC side can be changed to bring it more in line with the PS3 or understanding what the PS3 is doing that is able to bring out the sound better.

Below are the components involved.

BD Player - Original Fat PS3 using the convert to LPCM setting to get the HD audio to the receiver
Video card - Gigabyte Geforce GTX 560Ti connected to receiver via HDMI
Receiver - Onkyo HT-RC460
XBMC 12.2 Frodo

Update: I have reconfirmed what I already knew, XBMC is sending the DTS MA HD track to the receiver to be decoded, while the PS3 is sending a Multichannel LPCM stream to the receiver. I believe that i can hear more channel separation on the PS3 in addition to better bass and it is definitely louder at the same volume on the receiver. On the receiver when the mkv is playing the DTS MA HD light on the receivers display is lit, so I am fairly certain that it is not playing the core DTS track. When that happens the receiver shows straight DTS.

I also tried the latest version of Jriver and attempted to play the same clip , which is an unaltered mdv generated with makemkv from my copy of John Carpenters The Thing, and it played the same way as XBMC after directing jriver to use HDMI to the receiver.


Thanks

TimT
Edited by ttringle - 11/23/13 at 9:36am
post #4420 of 4476
I can't believe how long it has been since I have posted on these forums.
First of all the FAQ is really handy, second of all, I'm still confused.

I'm from Australia and I have the following TV:-
http://www.panasonic.com.au/Products+Archive/VIERA+televisions/Plasma+TVs/TH-P54V20A/Overview

I have my PS3 and PS4 hooked up to my Onkyo receiver (I can't remember which model) which in turn are hooked up to my TV.
Even after reading through the video section of the FAQ I was still confused on what settings are best for my set up.

Do I leave the RGB, Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr option as "auto"?
Do I leave the RGB setting as limited?
Do I leave Super White as on?

That's what I'm taking away from the FAQ but wanted to make sure I was correct.
I currently have my RGB setting as full and Super White setting as on. It sounds like RGB should only be full if I'm using a computer monitor, am I understanding this correctly?
I think I have had my settings incorrect for years.

Side Question.
Does anyone know if there are an preferable settings for my TV or the American equivalent?

Thanks in advance.
post #4421 of 4476
I couldn't find a definitive answer to this in my search: can a phat PS3 output in 3D AND output HD Audio codecs as multi-channel PCM? All the firmware revision notes refer to bit-streaming of DTS-HD Audio or outputting only lossy DD 5.1/DTS.
post #4422 of 4476
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Originally Posted by sol_bad View Post

Do I leave the RGB, Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr option as "auto"?
Do I leave the RGB setting as limited?
Do I leave Super White as on?

Does anyone know if there are an preferable settings for my TV or the American equivalent?
You'll have to find a thread for your TV to snag some settings. As far as RGB vs YCbCr, Go with RGB/limited and display a test image on the PS3 to verify that you aren't experiencing "black crush". You can google the term for some decent images if I recall.
post #4423 of 4476
needing help with a ps3 setting. I watch hulu on my ps3 and it is showing multi channel in on my avr and I cant change the audio on my avr to dolby digital pro ii I was told I need to change something in my ps3 settings but I dont wont to break the dolby digital i am receiving from netflix any suggestions??
post #4424 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

needing help with a ps3 setting. I watch hulu on my ps3 and it is showing multi channel in on my avr and I cant change the audio on my avr to dolby digital pro ii I was told I need to change something in my ps3 settings but I dont wont to break the dolby digital i am receiving from netflix any suggestions??

There is only the settings on Hulu. If there is any video or audio settings, it's within the app/Hulu itself, not on the PS3. I saw the Denon 591 thread. Batpig answered your question though, Hulu Plus is only sending LPCM signals, not dolby digital signals, so the AVR won't light up with Dolby digital.
post #4425 of 4476
I was told I need to make it have stereo output to use dolby digital pro ii

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post #4426 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Bamafan35611 View Post

I was told I need to make it have stereo output to use dolby digital pro ii

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I437 using Tapatalk

You can go into the PS3 audio settings and deselect ALL dolby and DTS and LCPM settings except for 2.1 or 5.1 (i believe) but there isn't a quick fix for any one game or program. The PS3 isn't setup to have different sound profiles and mixes for every game and app. So if you want a game or movie to display Dolby Digital or DTS on the receiver, deselect all LPCM channels, but then if you have an LPCM movie, and forget to change the audio settings, it downgrades to dolby 2.1 or 5.1 sound.

So no, there is no easy way to keep netflix settings with Dolby Digital + and have dolby pro logix ii showing
post #4427 of 4476
Ok thx

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I am looking at this Sony wireless head set with the mic for my Grand Son's PS3 Slim . Is there a better sounding one for music that will do what this one does????

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Stereo-Headset-Playstation-3/dp/B0053OLY9O/ref=cm_sw_em_r_dpp_lmKOsb0RRZ9PA_tt
post #4429 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

I am looking at this Sony wireless head set with the mic for my Grand Son's PS3 Slim . Is there a better sounding one for music that will do what this one does????

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Stereo-Headset-Playstation-3/dp/B0053OLY9O/ref=cm_sw_em_r_dpp_lmKOsb0RRZ9PA_tt

That one has pretty good reviews, and I doubt there are any made for music that have mics built in. I'd go for it.
post #4430 of 4476
I am outputting my ps3 audio via optical to the schiit bifrost, then into an integrated amp powering 2 passive speakers


When I set the audio output settings (optical) to dolby digital 5.1, the audio works through the speakers when utilizing the ps3 interface, but once I start playing a game, the audio cuts off completely--no sound output at all

when I set the audio output to linear 2 ch. pcm (44, 88, or 176 kHz), the audio works fine

wondering if anyone could tell me what the problem is


also, what benefits would setting audio output to dolby digital 5.1 have over linear 2 ch. pcm ?
post #4431 of 4476
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

That one has pretty good reviews, and I doubt there are any made for music that have mics built in. I'd go for it.
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

I am looking at this Sony wireless head set with the mic for my Grand Son's PS3 Slim . Is there a better sounding one for music that will do what this one does????

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Stereo-Headset-Playstation-3/dp/B0053OLY9O/ref=cm_sw_em_r_dpp_lmKOsb0RRZ9PA_tt

I went with this one, will see if I chose wisely. . This should make a 9 year old Happy and me when he is playing games alone on-line. I suck and hold him back LOL ... I got "hooked" On Call Of Duty Black Ops II biggrin.gif it was suprised how good my rear surrounds go off
when shooting "Zombies" smile.gif
http://www.amazon.com/Pulse-Edition-Wireless-Stereo-Headset-63089006306200/dp/B0087OZ5FG/ref=pd_cp_vg_0



EDIT I found these but too expensive for my budget this month.

http://www.astrogaming.com/platform/ps3-headsets
Edited by Louis Bartay - 12/7/13 at 6:16pm
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Sony PS3 Seems to Not Be Outputting Dolby TrueHD On Star Trek: Into Darkness 3D Disk

Hey guys,

Sorry if this is the wrong section, since this seems to be a player issue I felt this was the best place, but may be wrong. So I apologize if it is the wrong place.

I have a Panasonic TC-P65ST60 that I have connected via HDMI port 2 (ARC) to a Sony STR-DN1040 receiver. That receiver uses a Sony PS3 Slim to play blu ray films (3D and 2D). This evening I went to watch "Star Trek: Into Darkness 3D" via the PS3 Slim. Sadly though when I begin the film, it plays in Dolby Digital instead of the Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track that it should play. I have checked with the 2D version, and it correctly plays the Dolby TrueHD. I have also checked another 3D film I have, World War Z 3D, and this correctly outputs the DTS-HD Audio track with the 3D picture.

I was wondering if anyone knew what I was doing wrong with the "Star Trek: Into Darkness" 3D disk and how I can fix it so that it plays the Dolby TrueHD track as shown in the disk menu?

Thank you for your time!

-Kevin
post #4433 of 4476
There are some audio settings in the ps3 settings menu... perhaps TrueHD is not selected there? That's the only thing I can think of.
post #4434 of 4476
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Originally Posted by crakarjax View Post

There are some audio settings in the ps3 settings menu... perhaps TrueHD is not selected there? That's the only thing I can think of.

I thought the same thing, but double checked the settings and it is enabled. 2D version correctly plays TrueHD but not the 3D version.
post #4435 of 4476
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Originally Posted by kkirsche View Post

I thought the same thing, but double checked the settings and it is enabled. 2D version correctly plays TrueHD but not the 3D version.

Not sure if it has been addressed or not as I don't have a 3D tv, but I remember a year or 2 ago, when 3D became supported, there was an issue that HD sound wouldn't come through if you were viewing a 3D movie. I don't remember what or if there was a solution for it or if it has been fixed or not
post #4436 of 4476
Will the new PS3 Super Slim model play a Blu-ray (in 480i obviously) over a composite video connection? I know someone with an old tube TV wanting a Blu-ray player and none of the current models have composite outputs.
post #4437 of 4476
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Originally Posted by jruser View Post

Will the new PS3 Super Slim model play a Blu-ray (in 480i obviously) over a composite video connection? I know someone with an old tube TV wanting a Blu-ray player and none of the current models have composite outputs.

Yup it should work, just need to use the adapter and away he/she goes smile.gif I was watching blu rays and playing video games on my PS3 on my old CRT tube tv for about 9 months until I bought an HDTV
post #4438 of 4476
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

I am looking at this Sony wireless head set with the mic for my Grand Son's PS3 Slim . Is there a better sounding one for music that will do what this one does????

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Stereo-Headset-Playstation-3/dp/B0053OLY9O/ref=cm_sw_em_r_dpp_lmKOsb0RRZ9PA_tt
Will it work as a general wireless headphones if I plug the dongle into my Denon receiver?
post #4439 of 4476
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Will it work as a general wireless headphones if I plug the dongle into my Denon receiver?

Not sure about the wireless on your Denon . I have a yamaha. but wow I was suprised how nice the Pluse Elite sound on music. I have them plugged in with the wire cord breaking them after charging them... great treble and bass for $125.00 set of head phone now to see how they sound wireless for music.they work great on PS3 wireless. I will post back later after I figure how to hook them up to AVR with USB attachment for wireless use.

http://www.amazon.com/Pulse-Edition-Wireless-Stereo-Headset-63089006306200/dp/B0087OZ5FG/ref=pd_cp_vg_0
post #4440 of 4476
I am trying to connect my PS3 sound via audio Optical, I am not sure if it is working I can cycle through the audio settings on my receiver to the one that reads PCM, which tells me the decoder is working if that's correct where as the other settings reads AV1 decoder off, and so on, (AV4 on than PCM) But get no sound not even the XMB bar (the little clicks), I have direct HDMI from PS3 to TV, Optical selected on the PS3. I am wondering if I have to disconnect the Anynet+ for it to work? I am also wondering does it kick in when I play a game or a Blu-ray?
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