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Toshiba A2 - Will they still be around by Xmas?

post #1 of 49
11/1/07 at 11:09am
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So $100 for an A2 this Friday, probably the same price for Black Friday. Since the A3 is out do you think there will be A2s left by X-mas time? I assume they aren't still manufacturing them. What kind of price will the A3 be at by January? I am thinking of picking up an A2 for the bedroom, but if I could get an a3 for $150 in a few months I would probably hold off...... ugh!
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post #2 of 49
11/1/07 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by mrkrispy View Post

So $100 for an A2 this Friday, probably the same price for Black Friday. Since the A3 is out do you think there will be A2s left by X-mas time? I assume they aren't still manufacturing them. What kind of price will the A3 be at by January? I am thinking of picking up an A2 for the bedroom, but if I could get an a3 for $150 in a few months I would probably hold off...... ugh!

At this price point, I highly doubt there will be any left after Black Friday, if they even last that long.
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post #3 of 49
11/1/07 at 12:54pm
It remains to be seen. But I do think walmart could sell millions in a several hour period tomorrow.

I recently seen both Blu-ray and HD-DVD players in a local news segment about hottest electronics gifts this xmas. Segments like that can carry a lot of weight with more average purchasing characteristics consumers that shop at Walmart.
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post #4 of 49
11/1/07 at 1:14pm
At the current price, I would not be surprised if they are sold out before we even get to Black Friday!
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post #5 of 49
11/1/07 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by paul? View Post

At the current price, I would not be surprised if they are sold out before we even get to Black Friday!

Exactly - only A3's will be around!
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post #6 of 49
11/1/07 at 1:46pm
I believe at walmart they will. The others I am not so sure.
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post #7 of 49
11/1/07 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

It remains to be seen. But I do think walmart could sell millions in a several hour period tomorrow.

Rofl... millions eh? There are 3500+ walmart stores nation wide. Just assuming a million in sales, thats over 285 units per store.

Do you honestly think they are carrying that kind of stock? When generally they have 2-10 at most?
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post #8 of 49
11/1/07 at 1:50pm
I went to 4 Walmarts in Central Florida today. 3 had no hd players at all and the 4th had the Tosh HD-A3 only.

I would grab them now if you find them .
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post #9 of 49
11/1/07 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by harley1 View Post

I went to 4 Walmarts in Central Florida today. 3 had no hd players at all and the 4th had the Tosh HD-A3 only.

I would grab them now if you find them .

I called my WM today, they are not going to receive their A2's until tomorrow morning. I think that is the case in a lot of places.
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post #10 of 49
11/1/07 at 2:49pm
You'll be lucky to find one after 11/2.
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post #11 of 49
11/1/07 at 2:50pm
I keep checking circuitcity.com to see if they follow suit with Best Buy.
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post #12 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

I believe at walmart they will. The others I am not so sure.

I agree I think WM and Toshiba did a deal back in May. And there could be a decent supply to WM, which I think they would have demanded. After all they are printing the signs and running the TV ads, they do not want to be out of stock, like the supply problems Toshiba had earlier this year.
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post #13 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:28pm
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what I so poorly was trying to get at is this: could there be some sort of deal where WalMart will be getting a steady supply of A2s for several months, i.e. did Toshiba manufacture a couple million of them just for WalMart?
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post #14 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:29pm
My guess is that the A3's will be priced around $150, maybe even $100 for BF. I could be wrong, but we'll see...

Chris
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post #15 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:33pm
I have a feeling that Toshiba will replace the A2 with the A3 for $99 when all the a2's are all gone.

I know many of you don't think this will happen but why not? I mean it's only for 2 months max and after that they can raise it back up to like $150 or $175. I really think they can and will afford to do this.
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post #16 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by schmiggyjk View Post

Rofl... millions eh? There are 3500+ walmart stores nation wide. Just assuming a million in sales, thats over 285 units per store.

Do you honestly think they are carrying that kind of stock? When generally they have 2-10 at most?

Yeah but you have stores like Sears that will match price.

Probably not a million, but 500,000 or better I'd imagine.
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post #17 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:38pm
I agree, the A3 will take the place of the A2 when they are all sold. They pretty much have to at this point. No way WalMArt would have gone into this with only a few thousand units as some BR supporters would have you believe.
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post #18 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:40pm
Any good comparison links between the A2 and A3?
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post #19 of 49
11/1/07 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by trgraphics View Post

I agree, the A3 will take the place of the A2 when they are all sold. They pretty much have to at this point. No way WalMArt would have gone into this with only a few thousand units as some BR supporters would have you believe.

How happy will Best Buy, Circuit City, Sears, and every other retailer be when they take a bath on their $299 HD-A3s if Wal-Mart sells them for $100?

You really think Toshiba would do that?
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post #20 of 49
11/1/07 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by jmscott42 View Post

Any good comparison links between the A2 and A3?

The short of it is they are basically the same.
- A3 has slightly faster boot time, (and maybe disc load time). It comes with 2 good movies (300, Bourne Ident).
- A2 has downsampled DD+/TrueHD to 1.5Mbps DTS over optical (A3 does this to 640kbps DD5.1). Not an issue if you have a new rcvr with HDMI, etc. A2 used to come with 3 movies in marked boxes (not sure if these still will), black rain, F&F/TD, Perfect Storm (at least in Canada they did).

Both are 1080i and support HDMI 1.2a I believe. Both eligible for 5 free mail-in
no sense waiting for the A3, which is believed to be mostly a cost-reduced A2.
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post #21 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:11pm
Bestbuy.com is already sold out of them. When u consider that there r 3800 walmarts stores in the usa, selling 2 million units bye xmas could b possible.
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post #22 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:15pm
Never fear, Toshiba has more promotions lined up for the rest of the holiday season. No more $99.00, but there will be excellent values on the whole Gen 3 line-up through December.

I am sure some retailers will be discounting in conjuction with those programs. Need to wait and see.

Mike K.
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post #23 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by sherbert16 View Post

When u consider that there r 3800 walmarts stores in the usa, selling 2 million units bye xmas could b possible.

That's 525 units per store.
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post #24 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by mikek747 View Post

Never fear, Toshiba has more promotions lined up for the rest of the holiday season. No more $99.00, but there will be excellent values on the whole Gen 3 line-up through December.

Sweet, what are the promotions for the Gen 3 line?
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post #25 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:25pm
Value Electronics is now selling the A3 for $187 on their forum member page and i'm sure they are making a profit.

There is still room for the A3 to come down from MSRP even on units that dealers have already prepurchased.

I expect that Toshiba also still has plenty of room to lower the dealer cost of the A3 before Black Friday.

I think the low prices on the A2 are just the beginning of Toshiba's hardware push this holiday season.

fafner
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post #26 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by sherbert16 View Post

Bestbuy.com is already sold out of them. When u consider that there r 3800 walmarts stores in the usa, selling 2 million units bye xmas could b possible.

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Originally Posted by p0tempkin View Post

That's 525 units per store.

I don't consider that all that much. I guess some walmarts are in poor places and I would not expect them to sell close to any but Walmart is also where there are a lot of people like us who have a lot of money sooooooooooooo I bet if they had the units they could sell 2 million in 2 months only if they all sold for $99
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post #27 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by p0tempkin View Post

How happy will Best Buy, Circuit City, Sears, and every other retailer be when they take a bath on their $299 HD-A3s if Wal-Mart sells them for $100?

You really think Toshiba would do that?

I mentioned only WalMart but the same will apply to the others sellers as well. The $99.00 sales will only be short term. One or two days before Christmas.

I would imagine a more stable price for the A3 would be $149.00 - $169.00 for the rest of the year. Still a heck of a good deal!

The $99.00 players are to get people interested, I believe. When people start showing off their HD players before Christmas because of this sale a lot of people will get hooked and want one as well.
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post #28 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:29pm
Can't divulge too much at this time. They are spread out over the next two months. I guess I can drop some info on the promo that starts Nov. 4th.

$200.00 instant consumer rebate when you buy any HD-DVD player and any Regza LCD TV over 40". Sadly, it doesn't look like any A2's will be left around, unless you can find one at an independent retailer, and I doubt they would sell it for $99.00.

Suffice it to say, based on the other promotions breaking later this month, and next month, the sub $200.00 price point for the A3's is here to stay.

Mike K.
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post #29 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by AVRoe View Post

The short of it is they are basically the same.
- A3 has slightly faster boot time, (and maybe disc load time). It comes with 2 good movies (300, Bourne Ident).
- A2 has downsampled DD+/TrueHD to 1.5Mbps DTS over optical (A3 does this to 640kbps DD5.1). Not an issue if you have a new rcvr with HDMI, etc. A2 used to come with 3 movies in marked boxes (not sure if these still will), black rain, F&F/TD, Perfect Storm (at least in Canada they did).

Both are 1080i and support HDMI 1.2a I believe. Both eligible for 5 free mail-in
no sense waiting for the A3, which is believed to be mostly a cost-reduced A2.

hmmm if I can get a slightly faster machine in a few months I would wait. However, I was pretty bummed when I read the A3 wasn't a lot faster. The least they could do is let you open the damn tray while it is booting up!
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post #30 of 49
11/1/07 at 5:32pm
OK sorry I'm not up to speed on this, an A2 is an HDDVD only player, and its on sale at Wall mart for $100? If so, is this format going to survive, does Block buster rent Blue ray and HDDVD.
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