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post #2731 of 3545
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Originally Posted by bubbakja View Post

I have a chance to get a 92" GIII 1.4 open, but never used for $1250. I'm on a budget of $2400 though. My original plan was to get a Epson 8700 and a cheap screen.

If I care about Picture Quality, but do have a chance of some slight ambient light, would I be better off with the 8350 and this screen, or the 8700 and a cheaper screen ?

If it is a Gen III, i would find a way to jump all over it. You might not come across a deal like that again. Go with an inexpensive projector that you will eventually upgrade anyway. That screen will last you a lifetime.

Benito
post #2732 of 3545
^^^

yea true dat... i wish i had found a deal like that when i bought mine...
post #2733 of 3545
its amazing i post 2 awesome screen shots and there is nothing but silence....
post #2734 of 3545
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Originally Posted by fraisa View Post

its amazing i post 2 awesome screen shots and there is nothing but silence....

This thread has already been filled to the brim with screen shots (of various screens) showing essentially the same thing. There's not much to react to in seeing yet more of the same: shot #104 of a specialty screen showing a decent image with some lights on.....

Remember these?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20473898

I think they're pretty good too.
post #2735 of 3545
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

This thread has already been filled to the brim with screen shots (of various screens) showing essentially the same thing. There's not much to react to in seeing yet more of the same: shot #104 of a specialty screen showing a decent image with some lights on.....

Remember these?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20473898

I think they're pretty good too.

Those shots where good times

But what makes these shots different and worth the post
is most of the other screen shots where taken with
the Epson 9700ub
vs
the above shots taken on
the Mits HC9000 Advanced

So that is the reason for posting another couple of ambient light shots

The Mits HC9000 Advanced Really takes My SI Screen to the Next Level vs the epson 9700
post #2736 of 3545
Well oddly enough fortune seems to have shined down upon me twice. I got to work (after a couple months of researching projectors vs another plasma) and checked out employee classifieds and there was an AE4000U for only $1350 w/ 80 hours on the bulb.

I talked him down to $1200. I'll get the projo tomorrow and the screen should be here next week. This will be my first projector setup, pretty jazzed about it.

I currently have a 58V10 plasma upstairs, but wife wouldn't let me put it in the basement so this setup will be replacing a 6 year old Sony LCD rear projo unit.
post #2737 of 3545
^^^

you'll be even more jazzed when you fire it up...

of all the "wow" moments i've had in a/v, NOTHING comes close to the first time i fired up my pj...
post #2738 of 3545
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

This thread has already been filled to the brim with screen shots (of various screens) showing essentially the same thing.

I don't mind the screen shots. For now, it's the next best thing to seeing one in person, as there is not any to be seen in stores in the Phoenix, AZ area. I'm guessing the screen is still the .8 BD III?

Dave
post #2739 of 3545
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Originally Posted by thezaks View Post

I don't mind the screen shots. For now, it's the next best thing to seeing one in person, as there is not any to be seen in stores in the Phoenix, AZ area. I'm guessing the screen is still the .8 BD III?

Dave

Hey Dave,
Yes the Screen is still the .8 BD III
will be staying until its replaced by the Edge Zero,.
My room plan is 115 Edge zero,
and then add Black Stealth 2.7 for Spring 2012 above the Edge
post #2740 of 3545
Has anyone heard any news on the release date of the Zero Edge? Are they shipping earlier the expected?
post #2741 of 3545
So far my JVC RS50 and BD G3 1.4 are looking fantastic. The blacks are making the picture look absolutely amazing. Great combo
John
post #2742 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Dannyc211 View Post

Has anyone heard any news on the release date of the Zero Edge? Are they shipping earlier the expected?

Mid to late October
post #2743 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Dannyc211 View Post

Has anyone heard any news on the release date of the Zero Edge? Are they shipping earlier the expected?

you can order them now if interested. October is the 'official' release but we have been approved to order them now. If interested, feel free to contact us for pricing.

Benito
post #2744 of 3545
Good luck with this and let us know what happens
post #2745 of 3545
I have some chair rail molding in my basement that sticks out 3/4" from the wall. Will I have any issues mounting the screen?

I found out it is a .8 not 1.4, so hopefully I still get decent levels. It will be in my basement so any movie watching at night will be very dark, but on Sundays I might have some light bleeding through the windows so people can see where they set their beers. They are traditional window well style at the top of the basement wall and like a foot high or so.

Also does anyone have a .8 screen with a Panny AE4000 ? I was hoping to get some help dialing it in, or any suggestions on DIY calibration. DNICE had some great help for my V10 Plasma.
post #2746 of 3545
Hi,

I am considering a BD screen and would like some advice.

I have no windows or ambient light in the room except from walls are beige and ceiling is white. Today I have a white matt screen gain 1.0 and what bothers me most is washed out picture, especially with dark scenes, and also the way this screen lightens up the room.

Projector is Infocus sp8602, about 1000 lumens. It is 12 ft from the screen and ceiling mounted (5" above the screen).
I am thinking of a 2.40 screen about 114".
Viewing distance is about 13 ft.

Do you think the 0.8 would be the best choice and bright enough?
post #2747 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Armand07 View Post

Hi,

I am considering a BD screen and would like some advice.

I have no windows or ambient light in the room except from walls are beige and ceiling is white. Today I have a white matt screen gain 1.0 and what bothers me most is washed out picture, especially with dark scenes, and also the way this screen lightens up the room.

Projector is Infocus sp8602, about 1000 lumens. It is 12 ft from the screen and ceiling mounted (5" above the screen).
I am thinking of a 2.40 screen about 114".
Viewing distance is about 13 ft.

Do you think the 0.8 would be the best choice and bright enough?

Use the Projector Wizard on the SI website in the tools sections to see what gain is recommended for your projector

I will message you the link to my Facebook Gallery that has alot more pics of screens shots that shows what an .8 Gain screen can do
post #2748 of 3545
Thanks, that's great!
Using the wizard I found to be in themiddle, just a small change and I'll jump from 0.8 to 1.4 or the other way around. Guess 1.1 would have been nice
post #2749 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Armand07 View Post

Thanks, that's great!
Using the wizard I found to be in themiddle, just a small change and I'll jump from 0.8 to 1.4 or the other way around. Guess 1.1 would have been nice

To be honest you should be fine with the .8 gain
but you cant do 3d on the .8 gain so ...
In my facebook gallary all the shots on my Mits 9000 are in Low or Normal lamp mode and Its still super bright image lights on..
post #2750 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Armand07 View Post

Thanks, that's great!
Using the wizard I found to be in themiddle, just a small change and I'll jump from 0.8 to 1.4 or the other way around. Guess 1.1 would have been nice

The only problem with the wizard is Si is assuming the advertised lumens are accurate. My JVC RS50 is rated at 1300 lumens, which is not what it's outputting in THX mode and it looks great on the 1.4. It would be interesting to see it on the .8 but I think a little more light would be desirable for the .8 IMO. Either way you'll love their screens.
John
post #2751 of 3545
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

The only problem with the wizard is Si is assuming the advertised lumens are accurate. My JVC RS50 is rated at 1300 lumens, which is not what it's outputting in THX mode and it looks great on the 1.4. It would be interesting to see it on the .8 but I think a little more light would be desirable for the .8 IMO. Either way you'll love their screens.
John

I guess you are right. My pj is rated at about 1000, but I am maybe down to 800-900 so I am perhaps leaning towards the 1.4. Also tempted to get LED pj and they have even lower lumens.

But does 16:9 material on a 2.35 screen without masking work fine with the 1.4 as well? Sufficient black level?
post #2752 of 3545
why is everyone so tempted by LED PJ? who cares about light bulb changeout when everyon eon this forum changes PJs every 3-4 years anyway?
post #2753 of 3545
^^^

dunno about anyone else, but i average almost 200 hours a month on my pj... that will likely work out to a lamp replacement once a year, so if an (cost effective) led option comes out, i'm certainly going to be in line for one...
post #2754 of 3545
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Originally Posted by elmalloc View Post

why is everyone so tempted by LED PJ? who cares about light bulb changeout when everyon eon this forum changes PJs every 3-4 years anyway?

I would think that the bulb fading over time would be frustrating. I've heard that the bulb is faded even after 200-300 hours. If you have your projector calibrated, doesn't the fading bulb affect the calibration? Not that LED won't fade, but the period of time is vastly expanded. Anyways, I want a projector and I've never had one, so I have zero experience. Just from what I've read about bulb fade makes me want to get an LED projector. However, I'm definitely open to hearing folks' comments here, because most of you have >0 experience (much more than me!).

Dave
post #2755 of 3545
the LED lumens are pitiful compared to other technologies...?
post #2756 of 3545
^^^

true... today...

but "tomorrow", they should be able to coax out more lumens, at cheaper prices... there are very few things that are immune to the technology curve...
post #2757 of 3545
ccotenj,
hey you are only one post from 15,000 !!
post #2758 of 3545
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Originally Posted by thezaks View Post


I would think that the bulb fading over time would be frustrating. I've heard that the bulb is faded even after 200-300 hours. If you have your projector calibrated, doesn't the fading bulb affect the calibration? Not that LED won't fade, but the period of time is vastly expanded. Anyways, I want a projector and I've never had one, so I have zero experience. Just from what I've read about bulb fade makes me want to get an LED projector. However, I'm definitely open to hearing folks' comments here, because most of you have >0 experience (much more than me!).

Dave

As bulb fades, just open the iris. Calibration is not affected by bulb fade. 200-300 hrs is on the high side of fade from my experience. My last pj had the bulb replaced at 1500 hrs. and the diff with the new bulb wasn't significant. Remember, forums are filled with people who are unhappy with their purchase so negative experiences generally outnumber positive ones.
John
post #2759 of 3545
I don't want to turn this thread into a LED projector discussion, but bulb life is only one of the advantages.
I'll admit that instant on/off, greater energy efficiency, and lower heat generation are pretty much ancillary. The big one is LED light engines are a better, more accurate source of light. Plus, the LED projectors on the market have three colored LEDs, so you don't have to deal with a color wheel and it's effects.
Don't forget, your conventional bulb will change color, as well as fade in brightness as the bulb gets hours on it.
post #2760 of 3545
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Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post

I don't want to turn this thread into a LED projector discussion, but bulb life is only one of the advantages.
I'll admit that instant on/off, greater energy efficiency, and lower heat generation are pretty much ancillary. The big one is LED light engines are a better, more accurate source of light. Plus, the LED projectors on the market have three colored LEDs, so you don't have to deal with a color wheel and it's effects.
Don't forget, you conventional bulb projector will change color, as well as fade in brightness as the bulb gets hours on it.

By the time they perfect LED I may be ready for my next pj
John
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