Black Diamond from Screen Innovations? - Page 97

Originally Posted by goneten

Hughtt, you have an awesome system! I really like the look of the Zero Edge screen in your room (living room?). Every time you watch a movie it must be an event...

Originally Posted by r4Yn

Hi hughtt,

thank you so much for sharing those pictures. This Sir simply looks brilliant. I'd love to watch a movie there.

So you would go for a zero edge again?

Greetings from Germany
Reinhard

Originally Posted by hughtt

Finally my 120" 1.4 gain screen arrived after 3 weeks waiting. It looks wonderfull when the sun is down and the lights are dimmed. During the day, with what I currently have on my windows, I don't think I really want to watch anything on it yet.

Originally Posted by popalock

Stellar... The B&W Diamond (those are the 802's, correct?) and McIntosh combo is hard to beat in my opinion. I haven't read the whole thread, so I'm not sure if you already said it, but what you were using to cover the LFE department and what Projector are you using?

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Do the Black Diamond screens still have 3D issues when used with Sony projectors?

Originally Posted by r4Yn

Hi,

point your question directly to Shannon@screeninnovations.com

That will do

Originally Posted by isisyodin

Sounds excellent. Senna is on DVD only AFAIK and it is a documentary with rough footage. It is a good documentary no doubt... my wife is Brazilian, so there was a bit more to it when we watched it a few weeks ago. You should try something with a bit more dark scenes and some contrasty shots. I've been using Captain America for my calibration tests since the first chapter has a mix of both.
I can't wait to get my screen. I am however still on the fence mainly for a lack of budget. I have a Lumagen XS-3D and a 110 1.4 BDII on my sight and neither one is cheap

Correction: I just noticed that Senna is also on blu-ray. I guess Netflix is a bit behind.

Originally Posted by JimShaw

I have literally read every post on this 97 page thread. And for the long and sometimes tedious work, I have gathered a ton of great info regard the BD .9, 1.4 and the 2.7.

I have been to Best Buy to watch their 106", BD .9, Gen II and was impressed on how it performed in their room with all the lights on and light coming from the open doors.

I will be installing the Epson 5010 PJ which will reside in the family room and it's beam will light a 100" diag., 16:9 BD .9, motorized, recessed, screen which comes out this August as per Amy of SI.

It is going to be expensive but not as much the Supernova Flex, recessed with an MSRP of $11,000.00 per the quote I received from the DNP store manager.



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Originally Posted by thezaks

Is that a .8 or a .9 BD?

Dave

Originally Posted by hughtt

Finally my 120" 1.4 gain screen arrived after 3 weeks waiting. It looks wonderfull when the sun is down and the lights are dimmed. During the day, with what I currently have on my windows, I don't think I really want to watch anything on it yet.

Originally Posted by JimShaw

Here is a statement that I read about page 70 of this thread. I went back to find it but could not.

A gentleman in the Netherlands said that his friend was taking calibration classes and during one class they used the BD as the screen for the PJs and discover that the screen could not be calibrated. So, in his class notes the screen was marked as not-being-able-to-calibrate.

I found this statement to be extremely important but I was surprised that no one posted a reply refuting it.

What say you regarding the class finding?




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Originally Posted by saskroadie

My first attempt at "self calibration" (by eye alone) yielded some decent results. However, after watching a few movies, I found the picture was over saturated and even worse had a big drop in shadow detail. The good news was I didn't notice much (if any) drop in brightness or loss of viewing angle. 20 mins into Star Trek 2009 this morning I again recalibrated but this time really tried to balance black level/shadow detail and brightness. The next 1.5 hours of viewing was extremely enjoyable. My powered white screen is still installed, so I have the luxury of dropping it in front of the Black Diamond at anytime during a flick to compare the two. I continue to be very impressed with the BD.

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

How much for a 106" BD screen in the HDTV (16:9) format? I can't find a price online. I was looking at other screens in the 1000 dollar range but everyone keeps talking about how amazing this screen is. It would be used with an Epson 6010 in a dedicated room.

Aren't most Blu Ray movies in the 16:9 format? Would there be any benefit of going with the 2:35:1 or 2:40:1?

Originally Posted by isisyodin

For material other than in 16:9 format, you will need an expensive lens system if you want it well done. Some newer projectors have internal masking systems, but they are done at a software level with compromises in overall quality.
Projector People dot com has the BD in the typical 16:9 or 2.35:1. You will have to decide on the gain since there are 3 options today. 0.8, 1.4 and 2.7 if am not mistaken. Since you have light control, maybe the 0.8 or 1.4 would be good depending if you will like to use it with the lights on often. Consider the variables: size, gain, viewing preference (dark or lit room), viewing angle. All the latter are related of course and typically it goes like this:
Bigger size require more lumens out of your projector; higher gain screens will give you higher brightness in front but decreases to half brightness at angles as small as 40 degrees of the main viewing point (dead center); too much gain also increases hot spotting or sparkles in the BD.
Also if your projector does 3D and you think it is a must, you may consider even the 2.7. Active shutter glasses 3D decrease the projector's light entering your eyes by up to 60 percent.
One last item is calibration. I am not completely sure how well you can calibrate the BD since no one has commented on my last post.