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post #3121 of 3545
Does anyone know if it's possible/safe to ceiling mount a fixed black diamond screen besides the zero edge? I have slanted walls so I have to mount screen about two feet from the wall to have enough height clearance. I know I could build a false wall but would like to avoid that if possible. I am looking at a 133" 2.35 screen.
post #3122 of 3545
I forgot to use quote. This was for the post inviting me to stop by in Texas.

I wish I could. I'm about 1500 miles from you in Idaho. I used to live in Fort Worth.
post #3123 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Ryan Peddle View Post

So here are some pics of my set and a quick couple of screenshots with different lighting conditions. Mits HC5 proj in use with a 100" 16:9 Black Diamond III screen with a gain of 1.4. The proj is mounted 14' from the screen and has only slight vertical lens shift used.

All pictures are of the same exact image. One right after the other, from the same exact location in the room. About 13' back from the screen. Pay attention to the room walls as well. One thing I am very happy about this this Mits/Black Diamond combo is the lack of reflected light, yet the pop to the picture.



Here is the projector mounted:




Screen:




Image on screen. From Prometheus. All 6 pot lights on, plus a high powered fluorescent work light on as well. Picture suffers slightly, and you can see the effect of the work light on the left hand side, mainly blacks, but still very watchable.



This is the same image with the rear pot lights off, the work light off, and the stage lights on.




And finally, all lights off. Completely off, only projector image reflecting of the BD screen. Very happy to say the least.




Let me know what you think.

Wow that is a great looking pic. How much does the screen weigh?

Floyd
post #3124 of 3545
it's not that heavy... My 113" fixed screen doesn't feel any heavier than 50lbs total (screen and frame). Prob much less than that.

Ah, just looked at the Magnolia site and they state my screen is 41lbs.
post #3125 of 3545
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Originally Posted by DAlba View Post

Does anyone know if it's possible/safe to ceiling mount a fixed black diamond screen besides the zero edge? I have slanted walls so I have to mount screen about two feet from the wall to have enough height clearance. I know I could build a false wall but would like to avoid that if possible. I am looking at a 133" 2.35 screen.

Feel free to contact me to discuss. I spoke to our production manager and he feels we should be able to modify one of our Zero Edge flying kits for a fixed frame. There would be some time and testing to be sure so let me know if you are interested.

blake
post #3126 of 3545
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Originally Posted by TropMonk View Post

it's not that heavy... My 113" fixed screen doesn't feel any heavier than 50lbs total (screen and frame). Prob much less than that.

Ah, just looked at the Magnolia site and they state my screen is 41lbs.

If you use our online Screen Calculator http://www.screeninnovations.com/tools/screen-calculator/ . After you select size and material a box dimension and shipping weight will pop up below the screen cad image. If nothing pops up then the screen is custom and we don't know yet what the weight and box dims will be.
post #3127 of 3545
I have a 115" BD Zero Edge with the light kit. I'm trying to decide what the best color would be for my screen wall. My first choice was to go with a dark burgundy. I am wondering if when I turn the light (kit) on will the color look ok. If any has any experience with this screen or any suggestions for the proper color it would be appreciated.
Thanks,

Jim
post #3128 of 3545
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Originally Posted by tiguej View Post

I have a 115" BD Zero Edge with the light kit. I'm trying to decide what the best color would be for my screen wall. My first choice was to go with a dark burgundy. I am wondering if when I turn the light (kit) on will the color look ok. If any has any experience with this screen or any suggestions for the proper color it would be appreciated.
Thanks,

Jim

Burgundy will work. I have blue on a dark blue wall. Any light that is not overly bright should work. The idea is to avoid the contrast of a bright rectangle against a really dark background. That causes eye strain. At least for me.

Floyd
post #3129 of 3545
The color choice for the surrounding LED's is such a personal opinion. cool.gif
post #3130 of 3545
Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it didn't look odd with a maroon hue around the screen.
post #3131 of 3545
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Originally Posted by BlakeSI View Post

Feel free to contact me to discuss. I spoke to our production manager and he feels we should be able to modify one of our Zero Edge flying kits for a fixed frame. There would be some time and testing to be sure so let me know if you are interested.

blake

Thanks Blake, I am very interested and I will actually be in the Austin area in a couple of weeks so I was hoping to check out your showroom if you have one. I will contact you soon.
post #3132 of 3545
I am getting a Sony VPL-VW1000 to install in my living room.

I am looking for the perfect screen, of course, and am wondering if one of the Black Diamonds would work in my application.

I have venetian blinds on the windows so they only control so much of the light. I am going to need a motorized screen as I am keeping the plasma.

I am looking at around a 123" diagonal screen.

Which Black Diamond do you think would work best for me?



post #3133 of 3545
How safe is it to re-wrap a BD screen? I am planning on moving in a few months but would like to order a 106" fixed series screen soon.
I noticed that a clear film is clinged on the fabric on delivery which would not be possible to be reused. Any advise?
post #3134 of 3545
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

...I am looking at around a 123" diagonal screen.

Which Black Diamond do you think would work best for me?

I think for the 16x9 format, the largest black diamond screen size is 113".

Dave
post #3135 of 3545
I covered and taped my BD screen with a lightweight poly (from the local hardware store) and rolled it up. I would be very confident of transporting the screen (myself) with it packed like this. Just work on a soft/clean surface and you'll be fine.
post #3136 of 3545
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Originally Posted by saskroadie View Post

I covered and taped my BD screen with a lightweight poly (from the local hardware store) and rolled it up. I would be very confident of transporting the screen (myself) with it packed like this. Just work on a soft/clean surface and you'll be fine.

Thanks. Do you mean one of those roles of industrial cling wrap you can get at Home Depot?
I have also seen those you lay on the floor to protect from paint spills with different thickness numbers.
post #3137 of 3545
It's not cling wrap, just lightweight poly. The thinner the better. A little masking tape on the edges and roll it up. Just don't roll it too tight as to crease it...
post #3138 of 3545
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Originally Posted by saskroadie View Post

It's not cling wrap, just lightweight poly. The thinner the better. A little masking tape on the edges and roll it up. Just don't roll it too tight as to crease it...

Got it.
post #3139 of 3545
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Originally Posted by thezaks View Post

I think for the 16x9 format, the largest black diamond screen size is 113".

Dave

When you say 113" do you mean diagonal? Is there a formula to covert diagonal to height and width? What I'd like to do is measure the maximum distance between my speakers and pick the correct diagonal format to fill that space.

Thanks,

Floyd
post #3140 of 3545
Width x ~1.146
post #3141 of 3545
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Originally Posted by isisyodin View Post

How safe is it to re-wrap a BD screen? I am planning on moving in a few months but would like to order a 106" fixed series screen soon.
I noticed that a clear film is clinged on the fabric on delivery which would not be possible to be reused. Any advise?

Call me, I handle all the training for screen innovations so i have some tricks to re packing a screen i can share with you.

512 832 6939...If i am traveling the office will give you cell phone number.

Blake
post #3142 of 3545
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Originally Posted by Floydster View Post

When you say 113" do you mean diagonal? Is there a formula to covert diagonal to height and width? What I'd like to do is measure the maximum distance between my speakers and pick the correct diagonal format to fill that space.

Thanks,

Floyd

You can print a drawing of any of our screens using our screen calculator under "tools" on the screen innovations web site. The drawings come in 1" increments. If you are having trouble with the calculator then call the factory and one of us can walk you through it or the sales team at AVS can help you. math sucks so use the calculator.

Blake
post #3143 of 3545
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Originally Posted by thezaks View Post

I think for the 16x9 format, the largest black diamond screen size is 113".

Dave

The largest framed BD in 16:9 is 113". The largest BD Zero Edge is 115". The largest Black Diamond motorized is currently 106" but we will have 110" soon.

In 2:35 the largest framed BD is 142" and the largest BD Zero is 144".

The limitation on the BD material is 57" in height. length is not really an issue, I can wrap a whole room in one piece of BD but I cannot make an image space taller than 57".
post #3144 of 3545
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

I am getting a Sony VPL-VW1000 to install in my living room.

I am looking for the perfect screen, of course, and am wondering if one of the Black Diamonds would work in my application.

I have venetian blinds on the windows so they only control so much of the light. I am going to need a motorized screen as I am keeping the plasma.

I am looking at around a 123" diagonal screen.

Which Black Diamond do you think would work best for me?




We actually have a video of the Sony VPL 1000 shooting on a 144" (2:35 aspect ratio) Black Diamond Zero Edge in the 1.4 gain on our web site. The VPL 1000 has the memory zoom stretch feature that allows you to stretch a 2:35 movie out to fill a 2:35 screen without having to use an Anamorphic lens. So, you might want to consider a 2:35 aspect ratio an utilize the Black Diamonds ability to "automask" itself when watching 16:9 on a 2:35 screen. This will also allow you to get a bigger ULTRAWIDE movie screen.

Blake
post #3145 of 3545
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Originally Posted by BlakeSI View Post

We actually have a video of the Sony VPL 1000 shooting on a 144" (2:35 aspect ratio) Black Diamond Zero Edge in the 1.4 gain on our web site. The VPL 1000 has the memory zoom stretch feature that allows you to stretch a 2:35 movie out to fill a 2:35 screen without having to use an Anamorphic lens. So, you might want to consider a 2:35 aspect ratio an utilize the Black Diamonds ability to "automask" itself when watching 16:9 on a 2:35 screen. This will also allow you to get a bigger ULTRAWIDE movie screen.

Blake

Thanks Blake!

I have seen the video and it is one of the reasons I am on your trail!

Do you know if any of your dealers in the Ft Lauderdale area have something like this on display so I can check it out live?
post #3146 of 3545
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Originally Posted by BlakeSI View Post

We actually have a video of the Sony VPL 1000 shooting on a 144" (2:35 aspect ratio) Black Diamond Zero Edge in the 1.4 gain on our web site. The VPL 1000 has the memory zoom stretch feature that allows you to stretch a 2:35 movie out to fill a 2:35 screen without having to use an Anamorphic lens. So, you might want to consider a 2:35 aspect ratio an utilize the Black Diamonds ability to "automask" itself when watching 16:9 on a 2:35 screen. This will also allow you to get a bigger ULTRAWIDE movie screen.

Blake

what do you mean exactly the black diamond automask 16;9 content?
post #3147 of 3545
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Originally Posted by dlynch34 View Post

what do you mean exactly the black diamond automask 16;9 content?

Blake means the screen is already dark, so black bars do not show up as much as they do on most other screens.
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post #3148 of 3545
Hi BLake I've looking at you screen since I saw it at a dealer and saw your you tube videos. Needless to say you sold me but recently came across some earlier post in this thread that said the Sony 50ES in not the best match. They were from a few years ago so wondering if you guys got that issue solved? Oh and are the LED kits still included in the zero edge screens or did I miss out? Thanks
post #3149 of 3545
Hello folks. New guy here. Thanks btw for all the info. I am looking to get my very first projector. I have a question regarding the BD zero edge LED backlights: do the colors adjust automatically to match what is on the screen?
post #3150 of 3545
I am interested in the 2.7 gain screen but need someone out there to do a test for me PLEASE:
I want to use this screen with a passive 3D set up and need to know if it will retain polarization. Can anyone test it with 2 of the cheap 3d glasses from the theater for me and report back?
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