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post #1 of 14
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The Mackie HR824 and current MKII series are highly praised. I was set on getting a pair, until I started doing some real research, and stumbled upon a couple of pro-audio forums. Pretty much all them blasted the Mackies for lacking mid-range, with bloated bass.

Instead, everybody seemed to suggest getting the ADAM A7s. Apparently, thanks to the ribbon tweeter, the HF output is very dreamy and smooth. The A7 only has a 6.5" woofer, but bass is still supposedly accurate and tight.

Is there anyone out there that can give me an honest comparison between the two? The Mackies seem to be a lot more friendly, with more watts and compensation controls, but I am believing the hype of the A7's ribbon.
post #2 of 14
I have the Mackies. I like em, but I'm no audiophile. I play guitar/keyboards through them, listen to MP3s via computer, etc, that's about it right now.
post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by Megalith View Post

The Mackie HR824 and current MKII series are highly praised. I was set on getting a pair, until I started doing some real research, and stumbled upon a couple of pro-audio forums. Pretty much all them blasted the Mackies for lacking mid-range, with bloated bass.

Instead, everybody seemed to suggest getting the ADAM A7s. Apparently, thanks to the ribbon tweeter, the HF output is very dreamy and smooth. The A7 only has a 6.5" woofer, but bass is still supposedly accurate and tight.

Is there anyone out there that can give me an honest comparison between the two? The Mackies seem to be a lot more friendly, with more watts and compensation controls, but I am believing the hype of the A7's ribbon.

everything i read about the adam seems to praise it, is there any pro-audio stores around you that have the adams?
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by Megalith View Post

The Mackie HR824 and current MKII series are highly praised. I was set on getting a pair, until I started doing some real research, and stumbled upon a couple of pro-audio forums. Pretty much all them blasted the Mackies for lacking mid-range, with bloated bass.

Instead, everybody seemed to suggest getting the ADAM A7s. Apparently, thanks to the ribbon tweeter, the HF output is very dreamy and smooth. The A7 only has a 6.5" woofer, but bass is still supposedly accurate and tight.

Is there anyone out there that can give me an honest comparison between the two? The Mackies seem to be a lot more friendly, with more watts and compensation controls, but I am believing the hype of the A7's ribbon.

i'm sure that mackie spends a lot of dough on marketing and that can definitely influence things, but here are two points to consider:
1. audio pros who are passionate about their "art" are probably less influenced by marketing than people who know nothing or don't care.
2. i can't cite sources, but my understaning is that mackie's are the most widely purchased monitor. (or was it jbl which cost 2x?)

i was seriously considering the 824's as well. i'm not sure if the single 8 in driver (even with the back radiator) can blast out sufficient spl however.

are you planning to pair with a sub?

EDIT: correction the jbl don't cost quite 2x.
post #5 of 14
I've heard the Rokit's are good for active monitors.

Here is a link to them: http://www.zzounds.com/item--KRKRP8

The Rokit's got a better rating at zzsounds than the Mackie's.

Here are some reviews on the Rokit's at zzsounds: http://www.zzounds.com/productreview--KRKRP8

Here are some reviews on the Mackie HR824 at zzsounds: http://www.zzounds.com/productreview--MACHR824MKII
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Megalith View Post

The Mackie HR824 and current MKII series are highly praised. I was set on getting a pair, until I started doing some real research, and stumbled upon a couple of pro-audio forums. Pretty much all them blasted the Mackies for lacking mid-range, with bloated bass.

If this were true (and it's not) Mackie wouldn't be one of the best selling monitors in the project studio market. I've been on many pro forums including Gearslutz and Studio Forums and although the Mackies have their detractors (as do the Adams), I would hardly call opinions on either brand universal. Just like with home stuff, you'll need to listen to determine which you prefer.

Either one should be head and shoulders above your typical home speaker with regards to accuracy, particularly at the price range (with built-in amps to boot).
post #7 of 14
Adam monitors, as great as they are, are also the "hot product of the moment" in the pro audio world. Things in pro audio are as trendy as anywhere else, and there's a lot of hype around Adam right now. It may be settling down a bit, but it was certainly the case a couple of years ago. Anyway, this isn't meant to take anything away from them; they'd be my first choice for the money. But you've really got to listen. To my ear, the Adam produced a clearer sound, but without the extension of the 824 (I haven't heard the 624). I would not be surprised if some of the issues people complain about with the 824 were simply due to poor placement or setup, but I don't really know the speaker well enough to say. They didn't sound bloated in the room I heard them in.
post #8 of 14
The answer is clearly Genelec or Dynaudio.
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by tdogroeder View Post

I've heard the Rokit's are good for active monitors.

Here is a link to them: http://www.zzounds.com/item--KRKRP8

The Rokit's got a better rating at zzsounds than the Mackie's.

Here are some reviews on the Rokit's at zzsounds: http://www.zzounds.com/productreview--KRKRP8

Here are some reviews on the Mackie HR824 at zzsounds: http://www.zzounds.com/productreview--MACHR824MKII

You need to do some more homework. Rokits are a step down from JBL and Mackie.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by EnzoPolotso View Post

The answer is clearly Genelec or Dynaudio.

maybe or even sky, but they are much more expensive, no?
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by SpectralD View Post

Adam monitors, as great as they are, are also the "hot product of the moment" in the pro audio world. Things in pro audio are as trendy as anywhere else, and there's a lot of hype around Adam right now. It may be settling down a bit, but it was certainly the case a couple of years ago. Anyway, this isn't meant to take anything away from them; they'd be my first choice for the money. But you've really got to listen. To my ear, the Adam produced a clearer sound, but without the extension of the 824 (I haven't heard the 624). I would not be surprised if some of the issues people complain about with the 824 were simply due to poor placement or setup, but I don't really know the speaker well enough to say. They didn't sound bloated in the room I heard them in.

spectral is right on the button with this comment about setup. what's the point of having a dead-flat speaker if your room is just going to give it +/-5dB peaks and nulls all over the place?

initially, i didn't think that this mattered as much as it does, and explains why the jbl system comes with a mic and software.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by LTD02 View Post

i'm sure that mackie spends a lot of dough on marketing and that can definitely influence things, but here are two points to consider:
1. audio pros who are passionate about their "art" are probably less influenced by marketing than people who know nothing or don't care.
2. i can't cite sources, but my understaning is that mackie's are the most widely purchased monitor. (or was it jbl which cost 2x?)

i was seriously considering the 824's as well. i'm not sure if the single 8 in driver (even with the back radiator) can blast out sufficient spl however.

are you planning to pair with a sub?

EDIT: correction the jbl don't cost quite 2x.

The 824 has an 8.75 LF driver with 150 watts RMS, so you should be able to play at reference with them in most small to medium rooms. Quite a lot of people seem to be running 824s for home theater, and I haven't heard any problems.

One of the reasons I am going with monitors is so I don't have to bother with a sub. The 824s seem like they could handle a 60 Hz crossover very well, since the Mackies supposedly do measure flat and the specs are to be believed (F3 of 37 Hz). I run my current Beta set-up with a crossover of 80 Hz without a sub, and it is already plenty of bass for me...but I know I am missing a significant portion of bass, so I want the 824s to remedy that. I don't care too much for low bass.

Only thing that bothers me about the HR824 MKII is that someone claimed that the treble seemed rolled off and sounded as if a veil was covered over the tweeter, which is something that would absolutely bother me since the system I run now leans toward the bright side...I would definitely notice. I am not sure if the party was just speaking in general, or in comparison with the original HR824s.
post #13 of 14
Adam, no contest. I've owned a pair of P11as as my NFMs for almost 4 years now. Amazing speaker. The ribbon tweeter is absolutely sick. The imaging blows the Mackie out of the water. And my Genelec 1031s as well. Never have been a Dynaudio fan.

Really. They are that good. I've been playing music for over 30 years and mixing on and off for almost as long. I ran a pair of NS-10M speakers into the ground over the years. The Adams are the best I've ever heard...
post #14 of 14
We just got a pair of the A7s at our office. The tweeter would seem hard to beat. Tremendous detail and lack of any indication of strain. I thought a recording of Pete Escovedo I have listened to many times had a smidge of overload in the recording. The A7s proved that wrong. No strain what so ever. Great Value I would say.
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