Movies coming out on BR and HD DVD in 2008 - Page 5

Originally Posted by brian1212

Honest question: why do you think this is a "guaranteed blockbuster".

- Overworked and tired genre (comic book heroes)
- B-list comic book hero (ok, I don't read comic books, but I've never heard of this guy)
- Competition from other comic book hero movies
- Director has an uneven track record
- Unlikely lead for a blockbuster (Robert Downey Jr)

It could be a blockbuster, but guaranteed?

Originally Posted by brian1212

Honest question: why do you think this is a "guaranteed blockbuster".

- Overworked and tired genre (comic book heroes)
- B-list comic book hero (ok, I don't read comic books, but I've never heard of this guy)
- Competition from other comic book hero movies
- Director has an uneven track record
- Unlikely lead for a blockbuster (Robert Downey Jr)

It could be a blockbuster, but guaranteed?

Originally Posted by Bob Black

Iron Man is as guaranteed a blockbuster as the Dark Knight! There are a handful of titles we can count on as being gigantic in 2008, and Iron Man is definitely among this short list.

How do I know? Industry expectations. Insane furor over the film and trailer at Comic Con. An excellent teaser trailer that's been circulating for months now. Hype and word of mouth.

And how, exactly, is the comic book genre the most important blockbuster-type films when they are all exclusive to Blu-Ray (Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 2, Ghost Rider), but when HD DVD-exclusive studios have the lion's share this coming summer (Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk) they suddenly become a "tired genre"? Are you also implying that The Dark Knight will be a bust because it's part of this same "tired genre", or does this label only relate to those comic book adaptations that are available on Blu-Ray?

Iron Man isn't some obscure comic book hero like Ghost Rider or Daredevil -- he is a very famous character that's been around for over 40 years. Talk about mis-cast -- Nicolas Cage in Ghost Rider was absolutely awful, the reviews were miserable, it opened in February, yet it still pulled in $115 million. Robert Downey is perfect for this role, the trailer looks great, and it's opening on Memorial Day weekend. 'Nuff said?

Originally Posted by gljvd

actually right now in the comic book world (wel lat least marvel)

the top 3 comic characters are

1)spiderman
2)hulk
3)iron man.

Their two big story lines for this year have iron man in staring rolls (world war hulk and cival war) and he is going to be a major part of next years story line.

The character is very old and has allways been popular. I doubt as popular as spiderman and the hulk who had series before . However he should be at least as popular as fantastic 4 and ghost rider and daredevil. These movies made 105m to 154m domesticly.

Also robert downy junior playing a drunk super hero will work very very well

Originally Posted by Bob Black

Iron Man is as guaranteed a blockbuster as the Dark Knight! There are a handful of titles we can count on as being gigantic in 2008, and Iron Man is definitely among this short list.

How do I know? Industry expectations. Insane furor over the film and trailer at Comic Con. An excellent teaser trailer that's been circulating for months now. Hype and word of mouth.

And how, exactly, is the comic book genre the most important blockbuster-type films when they are all exclusive to Blu-Ray (Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 2, Ghost Rider), but when HD DVD-exclusive studios have the lion's share this coming summer (Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk) they suddenly become a "tired genre"? Are you also implying that The Dark Knight will be a bust because it's part of this same "tired genre", or does this label only relate to those comic book adaptations that aren't available on Blu-Ray?

Originally Posted by brian1212

Not all all. I am a Blu Ray supporter, but Ghost Rider was a terrible film. I saw the 1st FF and it was mediocre so I never bothered seeing the 2nd. Spiderman 3 was lacklustre.

I made a list of everything that could, in my opinion, be a big hit, the over $100 million type of films

Originally Posted by Everdog

One thing for sure that every can agree upon is that things look a lot different than last year when Paramount was neutral and Blu-ray had a monsterous advantage. Once HD DVD gets past November, it looks like that Blu-Ray advantage will disappear and may switch to HD DVD.

Even if you think the release schedules are even, that is a BIG change from last year.

Originally Posted by paxi

You're not whistling dixie. I think HD-DVD has weathered the storm. For many months the talk was that when ______ came out, HD-DVD was cooked. For _____ you can insert the Pirate series, casino royale, Spidey Trilogy, or Cars/Ratatouille. I don't think even the most optimistic of BR fans can point to any format killers on the scheduled horizon. The same of course can be said for HD-DVD.

Originally Posted by boo

We all know that Blu Ray has a big advantage in releases this year (Spidey, Pirates, etc) vs. HD DVD, but, I was wondering, what about next year, so I made a list of everything that could, in my opinion, be a big hit, the over $100 million type of films, I wanted to include 30 Days of Nights, Resident Evil 3, The Kingdom and 3:10 to Yuma but none of them will/has done over $100 million at the Box Office.

If anyone else can think of a film that should be a big hit I might of missed just post the title and I will edit my list, but it should be a film that comes out for HDM by the end of 2008, for example, Harry Potter 6 comes to theaters in November, 2008, so it will not be out on HDM till 2009, so it would not be included.

Universal
American Gangster
Charlie Wilson's War (Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts).
Wanted
The Incredible Hulk
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Mamma Mia! ( I do not want to see this, but a lot of women will, my wife for one example.)
The Mummy 3: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

Paramount/Dreamworks
Bee Movie
Beowulf
Sweeney Todd
1-18-08 (Cloverfield)
The Spiderwick Chronicles
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (should come for both formats or not at all)
Kung Fu Panda (animated from Dreamworks)
The Love Guru (Mike Myers new comedy)
Tropic Thunder (Spielberg produced Action Comedy with Ben Stiller)
Iron Man

Warner
Fred Claus
I Am Legend
Get Smart
The Dark Knight
Speed Racer
10,000 B.C.

New Line
The Golden Compass
Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo

Sony
Vantage Point
Hancock
Step Brothers
You Don't Mess with Zohan (Adam Sandler)

Fox/MGM
Hitman
Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium
The Mist
Alvin and the Chipmunks
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem
Starship Dave (Eddie Murphy)
X-Files 2 (films in December, supposed to come out in July at theaters)
Jumper
Horton Hears a Who

Disney
National Treasure: Book of Secrets
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
Wall-E

Originally Posted by caesar1

Am I missing something? Which of the above movies will be on HD-DVD, which will be on BR and which will be on both?

Originally Posted by Everdog

Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks - HD DVD

Warner, New Line - Both

Sony, Fox/MGM, Disney - Blu-Ray

Originally Posted by Everdog

Sony, Fox/MGM, Disney - Blu-Ray

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

Universal: nothing, they only have sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

If we're talking about movies that will impact HD sales, then we should probably only look at the movies that will sell on HD and that is first, action movies, and second, family movies (CGI or fantasy). Just because American Gangster eclipsed $100 million and will be nominated for awards does not mean it will sell well on HD b/c why pay more for that type of movie.

So I'd say movies that do really well on HD:
Universal: nothing, they only have sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch
Paramount: Indiana Jones, Iron Man
Warner: I am Legend, The Dark Knight
Newline: Golden Compass maybe
Sony: meh
Fox: Horton hears a who?
Disney: all of them

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

If we're talking about movies that will impact HD sales, then we should probably only look at the movies that will sell on HD and that is first, action movies, and second, family movies (CGI or fantasy). Just because American Gangster eclipsed $100 million and will be nominated for awards does not mean it will sell well on HD b/c why pay more for that type of movie.

So I'd say movies that do really well on HD:
Universal: nothing, they only have sequels to movies that ppl don't want to watch

Originally Posted by Bob Black

So when Universal had all hit comedies, that genre didn't matter for HDM. Now, apparently, dramas also don't matter. Have you heard of The Departed? It's an acclaimed drama very much in the realm of American Gangster, and happens to be one of the top selling hi-def titles so far (in the top 5, I believe).

And you quickly dismiss the Incredible Hulk and The Mummy 3 -- the original Hulk made a solid $130 million and this new version has wisely cast Ed Norton in the lead role. As for the Mummy, the first 2 installments grossed $155 and $202 million in the US, so this sequel is sure to be a hit. Especially with Jet Li along for the ride.

So, by your logic, why should studios release anything on hi-def at all? Apparently only a handful of titles in very selective genres are even worth releasing. Action movies and cartoons, cool! Let's just throw those damn dramas, thrillers, and comedies out the window.

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

Hulk was a disappointment at the box office. What's worse is that most people didn't like it. IMDB ratings are inaccurate but a 5.8 isn't good. He's not a marketable character to the masses.

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

I don't see how this will do well. He's also a stupid looking character.

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

Hellboy didn't even break 100 million, I don't see how this will do well.

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

The Mummy 3?? wtf? maybe if they made it 5 years ago. That's no longer a bankable series.

Originally Posted by NormieTrice

Geez does everyone here attend comic con or something.

Originally Posted by bboisvert

One could have said that about Batman after Batman&Robin came out. That didn't stop Batman Begins from being a huge hit and selling well on HD DVD.

The Hulk made $132 million. There's every reason to believe the upcoming reboot will do $150+.



Well, there's a logical argument if I've ever heard one.



Define "well". We're talking about things that will sell well on high def media. You don't have to make $300 million (or even $100 million) for that to be the case. Hellboy is the type of comic book/action/heavy FX title that sells well as a day-and-date HD release. The original made $60 million. If the sequel does that (or better), I don't see why this wouldn't "do well" on HD DVD.



You have Indy on your list, and the last movie for that came out in 1989.

I don't know what makes you an expert on what a "bankable series" or not, but without any specific logic behind your pronouncements, I think it's safe to ignore it.

The last movie made over $200 million domestically... and it came out in 2001, not exactly ancient history.



I don't know what this means... but why don't you take a peek at what movies are featured every year at Comic Con. I'll give you a hint... they turn out to be many of the top-10 films for the year. Just because you say that they're tired and won't do well, doesn't make it true. Universal has an EXTREMELY strong lineup for 2008 -- that list doesn't even include some of the strong comedy titles coming out (like "Forgetting Sarah Marshall").

Originally Posted by coolhand


Iran Man better be good. Lots of competition the next few weeks (Speed Racer, Narnia, Indy on consec weeks).

Originally Posted by Baccusboy

Not [color="Blue"]Sony
Vantage Point
Vantage Point
Angels & Demons ( davinci code follow up )

Fox/MGM
Wolverine

Originally Posted by shamus

Who is this "Iran Man" you speak of?