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post #1 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:24pm
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http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6498141.html

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Toshiba HD-A2 model sells 90,000 over weekend

Well, we have a number now

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post #2 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:27pm
Lets see how many different figures we get in the next few days.
post #3 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:28pm
post #4 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:28pm
Pretty darned impressive I'll say! I wonder if we will see the effects of some of these machines in the coming weeks with software sales. Another 500000 or so would have a pretty dramatic impact on the sales ratios and paint a much different picture than we have seen in 2007. I wonder if we will start to see HD-DVD win some weeks at some point in the next 3-4 months. If HD-DVD starts to win sales weeks without huge titles like Transformers debuting then the "war" just got a whole bunch more interesting.

The first week that HD-DVD wins a week will be a huge blow to Blu-Ray.
post #5 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by IRockSoAwesome View Post

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6498141.html



Well, we have a number now

That can't be right. People on here were saying the "conservative estimates were 1-2 million players sold in this sale".
post #6 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:30pm
According to the AVS experts it's only 40k, so that link is wrong.
post #7 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:31pm
WOW! - A home run!

Lee, cue the fireworks graphic!
post #8 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:31pm
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Within three days, Toshiba corralled nearly as many sales as the best-selling stand-alone Blu-ray Disc player has sold since its launch. Sony’s dominant Blu-ray set-top, the $499 BDP-S300, has shipped about 100,000 since it bowed this summer.



Then again, that's only "shipped" Blu-ray players... I'm sure quite a few of those are still left on retailer shelves.
post #9 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:31pm
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Toshiba HD-A2 model sells 90,000 over weekend

By Susanne Ault -- Video Business, 11/6/2007

NOV. 6 | The HD DVD format significantly pumped its installed base over the weekend, as dueling store clearances sold an estimated 90,000 Toshiba players, according to sources close to retailers.

That tally covers Friday to Sunday sales of Toshiba’s second-generation HD-A2 model, which Wal-Mart and Best Buy sold for about $99 on Nov. 2. That’s $200 less than Toshiba’s $299 list price and $100 off widespread retail pricing of $199.

The $99 players made up most of the 90,000 units sold, a source said.

Within three days, Toshiba corralled nearly as many sales as the best-selling stand-alone Blu-ray Disc player has sold since its launch. Sony’s dominant Blu-ray set-top, the $499 BDP-S300, has shipped about 100,000 since it bowed this summer.

woah
post #10 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:31pm
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In fact, the 90,000 figure for HD-A2 sales could be even higher, as it doesn't appear to include all retailer information. The figure does span consumer activity on HD-A2s at Wal-Mart, Best Buy and Circuit City, among others.

It does not include the A3s that were on sale either.
post #11 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:32pm
I tell you what I don't buy in that article... The number of S300's. Is that 100,000 sold through to customers or 100,000 Sony shipped to retailers?
post #12 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:33pm
Impressive is all I can say.
post #13 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:34pm
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In fact, the 90,000 figure for HD-A2 sales could be even higher, as it doesn't appear to include all retailer information. The figure does span consumer activity on HD-A2s at Wal-Mart, Best Buy and Circuit City, among others.

post #14 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:35pm
How much in total do you think Toshiba lost on those 90,000 or so boxes sold?
post #15 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by RDarrylR View Post

That can't be right. People on here were saying the "conservative estimates were 1-2 million players sold in this sale".

I guessed 60,000. I was off by 50%.
post #16 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:35pm
Fantastic! Very close to the 100k estimate thrown around here.
post #17 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by kkozma View Post

I tell you what I don't buy in that article... The number of S300's. Is that 100,000 sold through to customers or 100,000 Sony shipped to retailers?

The quote stated shipped units.
post #18 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by RDarrylR View Post

How much in total do you think Toshiba lost on those 90,000 or so boxes sold?

Who said they lost anything? They've been "overcharging" for the same unit for the past year. Who says they haven't been making a nice little profit for quite some time?

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Originally Posted by RDarrylR View Post

That can't be right. People on here were saying the "conservative estimates were 1-2 million players sold in this sale".

I think you're recalling references to articles about a rumored purchase of 2 million HD DVD players. I believe the rumor first showed up back in April 2007 timeframe.
post #19 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by kkozma View Post

I tell you what I don't buy in that article... The number of S300's. Is that 100,000 sold through to customers or 100,000 Sony shipped to retailers?

More than likely it is "Sony plans to maybe make at some point".... More or less.

Cheers
post #20 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by kkozma View Post

I tell you what I don't buy in that article... The number of S300's. Is that 100,000 sold through to customers or 100,000 Sony shipped to retailers?

That would mean all the other Blu-Ray stand-alone models averaged about 15,000 units sold.
post #21 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:38pm
Here comes the damage control unit...
post #22 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:39pm
Wow nice number. Good news for HDDVD.

Get ready for the fudsters

"Hmm, bellow expectations"

"I dont believe this number"

"Must be shipped numbers"

"only current users purchased it"

"Wow Toshiba lost so much $"
post #23 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by LiquidX View Post

Here comes the damage control unit...

I don't know if there will be any controlling the damage this is going to cause Blu-ray...
post #24 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by Numanoid101 View Post

Fantastic! Very close to the 100k estimate thrown around here.


Which I had been thinking were a little kooky.
post #25 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by RDarrylR View Post

How much in total do you think Toshiba lost on those 90,000 or so boxes sold?

Even better...
How much in total do you think Toshiba GAINED on those 90,000 or so boxes sold?
post #26 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:43pm
Cool! That's good news all around, whether you're a HD DVD or Blu-ray fan, if you ask me!
post #27 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:43pm
that is very impressive... if they decide to have another 3 or 4 of those so called FIRE SALES look out....Well, i gues i should admit i was one of the ones sitting on the fence waiting but the 99 dollar deal sucked me in. Then i had to go and buy 3 movies while i was there...
post #28 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by Zoo View Post

Pretty darned impressive I'll say! I wonder if we will see the effects of some of these machines in the coming weeks with software sales. Another 500000 or so would have a pretty dramatic impact on the sales ratios and paint a much different picture than we have seen in 2007. I wonder if we will start to see HD-DVD win some weeks at some point in the next 3-4 months. If HD-DVD starts to win sales weeks without huge titles like Transformers debuting then the "war" just got a whole bunch more interesting.

The first week that HD-DVD wins a week will be a huge blow to Blu-Ray.

The problem of course is Walmart as entered the market and doesnt report to Nielson. We may not see a win by HD-DVD even if they are truely winning.
post #29 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:45pm
I wonder if that number includes all the A2s that are being replaced with A3s (from BB and BBFB).

Great numbers. Hopefully this will start being reflected in Nielson in the next couple of months. However, I'm more interested in seeing the post-holiday numbers in January and February.
post #30 of 95
11/6/07 at 4:46pm
so, will this be more or less than sales (not shipped) of Spidey 3?
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