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post #31 of 9206



I'm currently testing it.

LCD 1080, it's not a Mits 6000 (SW is different, it doesn't accept 24p, for example, and more), overall very good quality, very difficult to handle when using Auto Iris (gamma is highly non linear), some other interesting and unique features.
post #32 of 9206
Thread Starter 
Do we know where it slots in from a price perspective?
post #33 of 9206
MSRP is 5K.
post #34 of 9206
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Originally Posted by Andrea Manuti View Post

it doesn't accept 24p

Are you sure about this (did you test it)? Viewsonic's press release says it supports 24p:http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/UK/Pr...01_Pro8100.htm
post #35 of 9206
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Originally Posted by Mara-nalle View Post

Are you sure about this (did you test it)? Viewsonic's press release says it supports 24p:http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/UK/Pr...01_Pro8100.htm

I tried to get my HTPC to output 24p to the 8100 I had and couldn't no matter what. Same PC Connected to a 37" Loewe LCD outputs 24p perfectly.
Manual doesn't include 24p, just 50 and 60.
post #36 of 9206
As Javier wrote, the manual says no 24p.
I tried and got the same result. No 24p...
post #37 of 9206
I will test 24p as well as soon as the PJ shows up.
post #38 of 9206
Any news about 24p?
post #39 of 9206
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Originally Posted by olzzzon View Post

Any news about 24p?

Check this user opinion: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av...529565p,00.htm

This is very strange... hard to believe that Viewsonic would lie in their press release but still it doesn't work in some units but works fine with this one. Maybe this is is a firmware thing?
post #40 of 9206
From Cnet Asia's page:

Editors' note:
ViewSonic has confirmed that the Pro8100 does accept 1080p24 video signals and is Deep Color-compatible.
post #41 of 9206
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Originally Posted by GrahamMc View Post

I will test 24p as well as soon as the PJ shows up.

Any first impressions you can share?
post #42 of 9206
I don't think I could live with a projector with the name "Viewsonic"...sounds like a cheap Walmart brand or something...Plus, no 24P = no sale.
post #43 of 9206
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Originally Posted by TheHDMan View Post

I don't think I could live with a projector with the name "Viewsonic"...sounds like a cheap Walmart brand or something...Plus, no 24P = no sale.

It doesn't look like the 24p issue has yet been confirmed either way. They do have a decent reputation in the pc monitor market though.
post #44 of 9206
Sorry for my lack of input so far. My PJ was delayed and finally arrived today. I'll be hooking it up and playing with it tomorrow. I will test 1080p/24 from the Sony BDP-S1 and let you all know what I find.

Graham
post #45 of 9206
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Originally Posted by tjason View Post

It doesn't look like the 24p issue has yet been confirmed either way. They do have a decent reputation in the pc monitor market though.

Are you guys blind :

"From Cnet Asia's page:

Editors' note:
ViewSonic has confirmed that the Pro8100 does accept 1080p24 video signals and is Deep Color-compatible."

Or do they have different version for different continents?
post #46 of 9206
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Originally Posted by Mara-nalle View Post

Are you guys blind :

"From Cnet Asia's page:

Editors' note:
ViewSonic has confirmed that the Pro8100 does accept 1080p24 video signals and is Deep Color-compatible."

Or do they have different version for different continents?

I had one of these at home for 3 weeks. I tried to get it to accept 1080p24 with two HTPCs, one with a NVidia 8600GTS card and the other with an Ati 2600XT and it was impossible. Also I had a Tosh EP30 HD DVD and same results. So either they have a new/different firmware or they have changed some hardware.
post #47 of 9206
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Originally Posted by JavierS View Post

So either they have a new/different firmware or they have changed some hardware.

More likely firmware, since 24p was mentioned already in their press release.
post #48 of 9206
I had the projector for a week to test out in my theater... the projector is great for the price but didn't impress me to the point of getting rid of my CRT. It produced a nice picture, but no where close to the black levels of a CRT (NEC XG85). I was really hoping this would perform close or better to the CRT -- it didn't. There was too much light leaking and I could make shadow puppets when no images were displayed. I ended up going with a JVC RS2, that projector has the closest image to a CRT.

I would recommend the Viewsonic for a room where you don't have 100% lighting control, since the full off isn't an issue... otherwise, this projector produces a very nice picture, probably one of the best LCD projectors out there.

Danny
post #49 of 9206
Ok, finally got to spend some time with the PJ last night. First and foremost, to answer the big 24p question...From a Sencore VP403 generator and a Sony BDP-S1 bluray player, I was able to confirm that the projector DOES support 1080p/24.

That said, I am inclined to agree with Danny. I had high hopes for this PJ, but was pretty disappointed with the black level. It just didn't want to go black enough. Color accuracy was good and overall picture quality was good. As a custom installer/ISF calibrator, I understand that this PJ is aimed at the custom installer market, but I still felt that the menus were too busy and difficult to navigate. Overall, it's a nice projector with some very nice, convenient features, but I'm not sure it's worth the price and poor (in my opinion) user interface. I have this one until next Monday, so if I change my mind, I'll be sure to let you know.

Graham
post #50 of 9206
Mavromatis and GrahamMc: is there any possibility you could let me know all of your setup values that you found best with this projector? Did you use the PCS and manual setup with it (and if, what values gave you the best pic)? Of course those values are never the same but I'd had even something to start with. For now I have only changed brightness and contrast with the THX-test.
post #51 of 9206
I just picked this up Friday. Should be here Tuesday and I will let you know what I think. I am a dealer and custom integrator in Charlotte, NC and I'm very excited to put this up. I will follow it with the anamorphic lens asap, from what understand it is ready and does not need a outboard processor!
post #52 of 9206
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Originally Posted by Mara-nalle View Post

Mavromatis and GrahamMc: is there any possibility you could let me know all of your setup values that you found best with this projector? Did you use the PCS and manual setup with it (and if, what values gave you the best pic)? Of course those values are never the same but I'd had even something to start with. For now I have only changed brightness and contrast with the THX-test.

I don't recall the settings I had and have since given the projector back.

ClaritySS,

Please let us know your thoughts.

Danny
post #53 of 9206
Thread Starter 
So in the intervening 90 days since the last post in this thread, have there been any new developments? Anyone else get their hands on one of these?
post #54 of 9206
I have one here at the shop, but I have not had time to sit down and see what it can do. I am thinking of using it in my home theater that hasn't been finished yet. I like that the lens shift functions are all powered. I was going to use the Panasonic PT-AE2000U but I think I'll take the Viewsonic and use a SilverStar screen. I won't be able to do anything for about a month, so I won't be any help here.

Those who have them and have tested them; what do you think? How does the Viewsonic rank with the other ~$5000 projectors?
post #55 of 9206
I should have one installed in the next couple of weeks. I will let you know what I think but don't expect too much as I am not an expert. I am coming from a Sanyo PLV-Z4.
post #56 of 9206
I've had this projector about six months now and I've been wery pleased with it. Couple of days ago I noticed that a new firmware is released (without any description of what it does) but I installed it into my projector right away. So what was new? Only noticeable thing in the menu was that only memory option active was "clear all" And still is, but the settings I made are still there and I'd believe it might be some kind of auto-save funcionality. Other change is that now the lamp stays on "Eco mode", earlier I had to change that mode every time after power-on.

BUT... then the BIG change. For a moment thought I just tried the PCS which just ruined the pic before and... WOW!!!! The picture looked simply amazing, colours so rich and alive and 3D-effect is just perfect. In some scenes it looks like a part of the picture is coming out of the screen There's still something funny effects (I have tested only with standard-DVDs for now) but if those can be ignored the PCS really puts the picture into a whole new level. If that can be still improved in future firmware releases and already now works great with HD-material this unit is one hell-of-a-projector.
post #57 of 9206
What is PCS?
post #58 of 9206
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Originally Posted by Couchrack View Post

What is PCS?

Precision Color System, can be activated with remote control's PCS-button (default and user settings).
post #59 of 9206
Great news. We have one installed here at the shop, but I haven't had time to sit down and look at it, and our video calibration guy hasn't had time either. I have downloaded the new firmware and will give that a try later this week.

Thanks for the followup.
post #60 of 9206
Thread Starter 
I had the opportunity to compare the Viewsonic with the new SIM2 D60. They are both $5k. The SIM2 had much more natural color and better contrast/black. The Viewsonic PRO 8100 had a definite green push and the green was a yellow green. It could just be the intrinsic difference between DLP and LCD. I have yet to see an LCD that can duplicate the color pallet of a decent DLP projector. In the absence of comparison, the 8100 looked great...very detailed and bright. It just needs more contrast and better color.
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