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post #3361 of 8998
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Originally Posted by Fabricator View Post

as long as it works as intended = WHO CARES !!!! just enjoy it and don't sweat the little stuff.

True, true!
By 'concern' I didn't mean that I was worried. It has the 3 year warranty (hope never have to use it), so I don't have worries.
post #3362 of 8998
Could someone please let me know what lengths the hdmi and component cables are that come with the projector?

TYVM!

NCDaveD
post #3363 of 8998
hirent right we were just talking about supply , this pj is great also the service, enjoy it to the maximum

fabricator thanx
post #3364 of 8998
NCDaveD 1.5 meter about 5 feet
post #3365 of 8998
WOW! That was fast!

Thanks bouda!

NCDaveD
post #3366 of 8998
that is funny. wth can ya do with a 5' cable with a projector ?!!!
but at the same time, i can see why they didn't put a longer one in there.
post #3367 of 8998
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Originally Posted by Fabricator View Post

that is funny. wth can ya do with a 5' cable with a projector ?!!!
but at the same time, i can see why they didn't put a longer one in there.

Make sure it works... but not much else
post #3368 of 8998
Since this PJ was meant to be professionally installed, my thinking would be that the PJ would be mounted from the ceiling. And in most ceiling installations, the video line would be split; one cable going from the PJ to a wall/ceiling plate and then another cable would go internally from the plate to the source.

Albeit, I do see the funny side; what are we gonna do with a 5' cable for a PJ....lol.
I'm happy to see not only a HDMI cable but also a RGB cable in there.
Can never have too many cables, I say.

Since I'm swapping out a current PJ, I'm not using anything from the box, except for the remote control.
post #3369 of 8998
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Originally Posted by hirent View Post

Since this PJ was meant to be professionally installed, my thinking would be that the PJ would be mounted from the ceiling. And in most ceiling installations, the video line would be split; one cable going from the PJ to a wall/ceiling plate and then another cable would go internally from the plate to the source.

Albeit, I do see the funny side; what are we gonna do with a 5' cable for a PJ....lol.
I'm happy to see not only a HDMI cable but also a RGB cable in there.
Can never have too many cables, I say.

Since I'm swapping out a current PJ, I'm not using anything from the box, except for the remote control.

I'm using the HDMI cable between my blu ray player and AVS receiver...hey I'm not complaining
post #3370 of 8998
Just wanted to let you all know that I called TigerDirect and the Pro8100 is past their anticipated delivery date with a projected reciept of 7 to 21 days. I do believe it is available from the Viewsonic Store however.

NCDaveD
post #3371 of 8998
Mine just came to work, its manufacture date is Nov 2009.

I havent hooked it up yet. but my theater is now painted and ready for me to install my wall plates start building my screen and install the flooring.

Almost done.

I will test it out at home tonight and update the firmware if its out of date.

First impressions are the projector looks very classy, its large and heavy.
Big fan of the high glass black covers.
The bag it came in is nice too, looks like a crown royal bag.
post #3372 of 8998
Thats the latest manufacture date I have seen.
post #3373 of 8998
for those who like razor sharp setting without anamorphic lens :

sharpness: 53
HQV: detail enhancement : 6


yellowcanary73 and the last

NCDaveD hope theyll supply soon. because tigerdirect is the only retail store that got them.
post #3374 of 8998
guys thats what viewsonic was planning for the pro8100:

San Jose, CA—(January 7, 2008)—Silicon Optix, the leader in advanced video processors, announces that Viewsonic Corp. a worldwide leader of visual display products, has selected Reon-VX HQV® video processing for its flagship Precision Series projector, the Pro8100 home theater projector.

“Drawing on ViewSonic’s heritage and expertise in the visual display industry, the Pro8100 marks our foray into the luxury home theater lifestyle category,” said Jeff Volpe, vice president of marketing, ViewSonic Americas. “We believe that by incorporating HQV, our Pro8100 will satisfy the discerning requirements of high-end consumers.”
Silicon Optix’s Emmy® award winning HQV processing delivers the sharpest and most detailed HD images possible by utilizing features such as true 1080i-to-1080p HD deinterlacing and a sophisticated multidirectional diagonal filter that ensures video without jagged edges. HQV also does an incredible job of making SD material approach HD quality by employing advanced scaling, per-pixel detail enhancement and noise reduction technology that removes noise and artifacts caused by compression.

Available now for a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $4,995, the Pro8100 home theater projector comes standard in black, but customers have the option of customizing the projector to their décor with optional white, silver or burgundy skins. The Pro8100 will be sold only through authorized ‘Precision by ViewSonic’ dealers and specialty retailers. For more information on the Pro8100 or to locate an authorized dealer in your area, visit www.ViewSonic.com/Precision.

“Viewsonic has recently experienced tremendous growth and are well suited to compete in the specialty retail market. We are thrilled they have selected HQV for their flagship projector,” said Jim Mannos, President and CEO of Silicon Optix.

For more information on HQV processing, please go to http://www.HQV.com.


About Silicon Optix
Silicon Optix is a leader in high-performance video processing and unique and proprietary geometry processing IC solutions delivering Hollywood Quality Video (HQV). Silicon Optix ICs can be found in top-tier consumer-electronics products such as high-resolution displays, premium DVD players, ultra-thin RPTVs, and front projectors. Teranex, a division of Silicon Optix, is a leader in programmable video processing systems-level solutions for the professional broadcast and postproduction markets. Silicon Optix is headquartered in San Jose, California, with offices around the world. For more information, visit www.siliconoptix.com, www.terenex.com, and www.hqv.com

from:
http://www.avrev.com/forum/video-pro...projector.html

also new epson cut the reon chip from its high end 9500 just to ut the price of its previous high end 7500 which have it. so high tech pj for end customer not availible for these years.
post #3375 of 8998
bouda78 -- Since you mentioned other manufacturers, the Mitsubishi projectors HC5500/HC6500/HC6800/HC7000 also use the Silicon Optix Reon-VX HQV processors.

The HC6800 (new) and the HC7000 (their flagship model) are the only 2 models currently in production. Their HC7000, introduced about 3-6 months after the Pro8100, is the in the same performance category as the VS Pro8100 (and has the same MSRP), with almost identical features (in several cases, those features are better).

With my HC5500, I can certainly attest to the quality of the video scaling and processing.
post #3376 of 8998
Just pulled the trigger on a custom sized (62 x 110") high power screen to go with my Pro8100. Since the pro8100 is fully motorized which makes it easy and quick to zoom, focus or lens shift, I decided to go with a flexible height wall shelf so I can put it near the eye level position for the high power fabric and raise it should I need to reduce the brightness or move it out of the way.

Now if manufacturers would realize once we decide on something, we need it now, life would be so much better
post #3377 of 8998
Meret, did you solve the horizontal banding issue?
post #3378 of 8998
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Originally Posted by Meret View Post


Now if manufacturers would realize once we decide on something, we need it now, life would be so much better

Quality takes time.
post #3379 of 8998
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Originally Posted by streetcredit View Post

Meret, did you solve the horizontal banding issue?

It was much less after I had it unplugged and but it came a bit fainter as it warmed up this time. Right now, I'm on the fence since TD doesn't have any, so I'm going to evaluate it over the week (while my 30 return is available with TD). My wife can live with it but if the opportunity to exchange it occurs, I would. I am also hoping it works itself out.
I still see it on flat colors. I tried my daughters laptop on it but had a sparkling, unsteady look to it around text and icons (like it wasn't locking on the frequency correctly) so I couldn't properly evaluate the banding, but it's a low end laptop graphics chip. I have to hook up one of my desktops to it to set a nice fixed flat color (or solve the frequency lock issue).

Basically, I am not willing to part with my projector unless I can be sure another one is available, we're hooked
post #3380 of 8998
CT_Wiebe thats right ur hc5500 wont happen again at recent years , and all this mitsubishi line was before the 2009-2010 projectors that were taged with sale prices to their predecessor.

if mitsubishi gonna present new pj with competitor prices it has to be less cost as other pjs.
post #3381 of 8998
Meret the service should fix it , u have 3 years waranty , or wait till tigerdirect have some to replace it with, btw all here are hooked to this pj , even some bought two wen they got the chance
post #3382 of 8998
Well, I received my PRO8100 last week from TD. It arrived in fantastic condition inside and out. It came very well packed and in a very nice velvet dust cover.
Here are some pics to refresh everyone's memory on how its packed and how it looks:









This thing is huge! I had a pretty good idea of the size by looking at the dimensions in the specs, but it still suprised me a little

It came with firmware 2.1 on it and I upgraded to 2.51 very easily without any issues. I've watched a few movies on it and have fiddled with the color settings some, but haven't gotten it quite right yet. I'm going to try some of the suggested color settings soon and see how they work for me on my off-white wall. I'm running it in Eco mode and it's still plenty bright. We'll see how it goes once the bulb stabilizes.

What iris setting is everyone using?

The motorized features are very handy!

So far I haven't gotten any banding issues or anything else. Convergence is decent and no dust blobs either.

Overall, I'm very very impressed and super thrilled to be able to get my hands on one of these!

Wow, rambled a little there. Hope it's useful to someone.
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post #3383 of 8998
Interesting. Different box design and my velvet projector cover is black.

BTW, I'm using a 35' HDMI cable from the projector to my receiver. No problems.
post #3384 of 8998
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Originally Posted by Colton View Post

Interesting. Different box design and my velvet projector cover is black.

BTW, I'm using a 35' HDMI cable from the projector to my receiver. No problems.

My box is identical. The velvet cover actually looks a deep royal blue but the camera flash makes it look baby blue (I took a pic, just didn't post it).

If it's of any interest to anyone, I bought a 15' and 45' HDMI cable plus a splitter from Mono and they work perfectly.
post #3385 of 8998
My 25' from Monoprice worked fine for awhile and then I'd start to get colored snow and had to switch sources and back to get picture again. After a few days of that, it quit altogether. Still in warranty so will get a new one. Hope it lasts longer as it is tough to pull thru the ceiling. Didn't know about ceiling mount PJs 20+ years ago when I built the house and finished the basement.
post #3386 of 8998
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Originally Posted by bouda78 View Post

CT_Wiebe thats right ur hc5500 wont happen again at recent years , and all this mitsubishi line was before the 2009-2010 projectors that were taged with sale prices to their predecessor.

if mitsubishi gonna present new pj with competitor prices it has to be less cost as other pjs.

The HC7000 was introduced at CEDIA 2008 (as a 2009 model -- about 4 months after the Pro8100). The HC5500 was introduced in May/June 2009, the HC6500 was introduced several months later. The HC6800 was introduced at CEDIA 2009 (as a 2010 model). None of those models sell at their MSRP prices (and we are not allowed to discuss street prices -- AVS Forum rules).

You are correct in saying that none of those sell for as cheap as the Pro8100 that most of you bought. So strictly from a price point of view, the Pro8100 is (or was) an excellent buy. However, if the Pro8100 gets re-released at a much higher, price, then the Mitsubishi PJs become very competitive (especially the HC7000 which is being discounted by some dealers).

Except for the HC5500, all of those models have a better contrast ratio than the Pro8100. They all have power zoom, focus, and lens shift, and use a Reon-VX processor for all scaling operations. In addition, they all have the capability of running in a CIH mode with one button switching from 2.35:1 to 16:9 operation, without an external Anamorphic lens (an undocumented feature). They, of course, have options for use with an external Anamorphic lens.

Since this is a Pro8100 thread, lets just drop this subject. I am not trying to convince anyone that they should not buy a Pro8100. It is an excellent PJ for it's street price.
post #3387 of 8998
CT_Wiebe iam not trying to open argument here but The HC7000 uses the same standerd reon chip 200 same as the hc-7000 so no improvement at all at video processing and the pro8100 uses the advance reon chip 210 since 2008, btw reon invented the new vida chip which can do much more advance job at video upscaling but mitsubishi didnt use it as its standerd chip for the 2009-2010 pjs ( thats a part of cutting the cost) wen a company want to produce lastest high end pj it must combine all latest elements together. high end hc6800 still using the 10-bit panels were epson introuduced the 2nd generation d7 12-bit panels can u tell me why mitsubishi is introducing new models with minor modification and less price ? because the old technology cost the company less to produce.

my point is that all electornics companies after the end of 2007 went to produce low cost products to maintain their profits after the economy had collapsed. so as we see no noticeable imrovements just minor features and at most cases old products have so much better quality than new ones.

refernce:
even the hc7000 have more pages than the new hc6800 also cutting cost

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations....eet_HC6800.pdf

http://www.mitsubishi-presentations....eet_HC7000.pdf

http://www.idt.com/?catid=18695689
post #3388 of 8998
evo2turbo congrats classy pj at classy house

i like iris=3 and black level low with time u need to set it to high
post #3389 of 8998
The HC7000 is a very good theater projector (extremely sharp and detail rich), but you really need good light control and/or a high gain screen to get the most out of it. It tends to be not very bright when calibrated. I looked at one briefly in a showroom with above average light control, and was impressed, but didn't think it had enough lumens for my conditions (120" screen size with some ambient light viewing).

The differences between Reon processors in the 200 class is going to be much less than the other classes. The main thing you're giving up in the 200 versus the 210 is the eWarp VX Geometry Engine, which is more feature rich, but doesn't play as big an impact on image for most users. HQV should really do a better job educating both its integrators and consumers on the differences in its product line, because all Reon VX processors are not equal in my experience.
post #3390 of 8998
Dark Rider thats right also i prefer the hc5500 over the hc7000 because its brighter and sharper, i think its the best mitsubishi by all terms.
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