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post #9091 of 9206
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I decided over the weekend I'd go ahead and buy one of those Epson's .. I had a 20% loyalty discount coupon and it netted it down to $800 with free ship ..

Now I can see what this new fangled 3-D thing is all about .. wink.gif

Good for you Willie! $800 is a STEAL and it includes the 2 year warranty. If you get a good one I think you'll be very pleased with it. Let us know!

Ed
post #9092 of 9206
Will owning an Epson photo printer score me 1 of those loyalty discounts?
post #9093 of 9206
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Originally Posted by 73shark View Post

Will owning an Epson photo printer score me 1 of those loyalty discounts?

Dunno, but they seem to send me a code for a 15% discount fairly often. That's when I decided to get an extra lamp. Sorry I don't have one now but if one shows up soon I'll let you know.

Ed
post #9094 of 9206
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Originally Posted by finthen View Post



Gentlemen, unequivocally this ebay/Mwave Pro-8100 Lamp Assy.
@ $166.98 S&H throws a picture here as I remember when new with OEM lamp:
"replacement Lamp VIEWSONIC Pro8100 w/Original Philips / Osram Bulb Inside"


Reset picture controls to my saved User settings with PCS off on Eco and brightness lowered to 47 .

Just a wonderful pleasure to watch !!! smile.gif

So pleased, I'm debating, should I buy to set aside a second ...

Highly Recommended !

Thanks for posting your review on that lamp. I didn't have time to return the Mwave lamp I ordered yet. Once I get that done I will order the $166.98 one with the oem lamp from ebay. Is this the correct one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIEWSONIC-Pro8100-replacement-lamp-Original-Philips-Osram-Bulb-Inside-/310550150139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484e3b3bfb
post #9095 of 9206
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

Thanks for posting your review on that lamp. I didn't have time to return the Mwave lamp I ordered yet. Once I get that done I will order the $166.98 one with the oem lamp from ebay. Is this the correct one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIEWSONIC-Pro8100-replacement-lamp-Original-Philips-Osram-Bulb-Inside-/310550150139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484e3b3bfb

Correct , Martin !
post #9096 of 9206
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

Thanks for posting your review on that lamp. I didn't have time to return the Mwave lamp I ordered yet. Once I get that done I will order the $166.98 one with the oem lamp from ebay. Is this the correct one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIEWSONIC-Pro8100-replacement-lamp-Original-Philips-Osram-Bulb-Inside-/310550150139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484e3b3bfb

Please let us know your results when you get the new one installed. If it performs like a true OEM I'll be ordering one.

Thanks!

Ed
post #9097 of 9206
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Originally Posted by sethexunba View Post

Find an LCD projector that has a center lens with HQV processing and you will find your answer. pgYp

answer to what .. ??
post #9098 of 9206
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

answer to what .. ??

Spammer
post #9099 of 9206
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Originally Posted by old corps View Post

Please let us know your results when you get the new one installed. If it performs like a true OEM I'll be ordering one.

Thanks!

Ed

I ordered it today. I will post my results once I get it installed. edit: opps!

I noticed that Mwave shows "notify" now. I ordered it through the ebay link above. It showed 3 available when I ordered. It shows 2 now. I imagine there are more available but who knows.
Edited by beekermartin - 10/1/13 at 12:13pm
post #9100 of 9206
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I ordered it today. I will post my results once I get it installed. edit: opps!

I noticed that Mwave shows "notify" now. I ordered it through the ebay link above. It showed 3 available when I ordered. It shows 2 now. I imagine there are more available but who knows.

I just checked (it's now 9:36 ESDT) and it shows 5 available. Went directly to ebay, so it looks like they'll still be around until you try one out for me.smile.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/replacement-Lamp-VIEWSONIC-Pro8100-w-Original-Philips-Osram-Bulb-Inside-/350660069305?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a4f807b9

Ed
post #9101 of 9206
The lamp arrived last night but unfortunately it arrived damaged. One of the screws that holds the lamp to the housing had falling out. The metal bracket that holds it in place was also out of place. I will be returning it and waiting for a replacement.
post #9102 of 9206
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

The lamp arrived last night but unfortunately it arrived damaged. One of the screws that holds the lamp to the housing had falling out. The metal bracket that holds it in place was also out of place. I will be returning it and waiting for a replacement.

Really sorry to hear this!

Ed
post #9103 of 9206
I got it back together but I am not sure I want to try installing it. I am afraid if the lamp is defective it could explode in the projector. Mwave is going to send me another one.

While I had it apart I took some pictures of the lamp. It doesn't say philips or osram anywhere on it. All it says is USH10, Made in China and Hg in a circle. On the other side it says ZPK0224 NSH160D.

I would think that if it was a true Philips Osram lamp it would have their name on it somewhere. I could be wrong of course.
post #9104 of 9206
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

I got it back together but I am not sure I want to try installing it. I am afraid if the lamp is defective it could explode in the projector. Mwave is going to send me another one.

While I had it apart I took some pictures of the lamp. It doesn't say philips or osram anywhere on it. All it says is USH10, Made in China and Hg in a circle. On the other side it says ZPK0224 NSH160D.

I would think that if it was a true Philips Osram lamp it would have their name on it somewhere. I could be wrong of course.

Sure doesn't sound good. I was waiting for your report and would have ordered immediately if it was positive. Think I'll give up on mwave lamps.rolleyes.gif Sorry for your trouble.

Ed
post #9105 of 9206
No it is not a good sign. It appears the brand name of the lamp I received is Ushio. I thought it was USH10 but it appears it is actually Ushio. Which obviously is not Osram or Phillips. If I am right then I will be extremely pissed off.
post #9106 of 9206
Here are a few pictures of the bulb removed from the housing:



post #9107 of 9206
I don't want to sound like an ass, but I have repeatedly posted that all non-Viewsonic lamps are the same lamp .. I don't care what the seller calls it .. it's the same clone lamp ..
post #9108 of 9206
I didn't remove the bulb from the housing of the original lamp I ordered when I had it. I wish I would have so I could compare it to this one.

If I have time tomorrow I will remove the original stock bulb to see what type it actually is. I will post the photos.
post #9109 of 9206
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I don't want to sound like an ass, but I have repeatedly posted that all non-Viewsonic lamps are the same lamp .. I don't care what the seller calls it .. it's the same clone lamp ..

I think your probably right Willie. And you don't sound at all like an ass to me.....

BTW, did you get your Epson 3010 installed yet?

Ed
post #9110 of 9206
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

No it is not a good sign. It appears the brand name of the lamp I received is Ushio. I thought it was USH10 but it appears it is actually Ushio. Which obviously is not Osram or Phillips. If I am right then I will be extremely pissed off.

+1

You're absolutely correct. Ushio is evidently a major lamp mfg. Here's the exact lamp I found on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=ushio+lamp+for+Viewsonic+Pro8100&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Aushio+lamp+for+Viewsonic+Pro8100

Guess $166 shipped with the housing would be a deal if it arrived in one piece and performed like it should. Here's hoping your replacement will be a winner!

Good luck!
Ed
post #9111 of 9206
Wish I'd read these notes on having to shave part of the mwave lamp housing in order to get it to fit! I went about this installation in as dumb a manner as possible:
  • I installed the new bulb, standing on a table to just barely reach the projector on a high ceiling mount (seemed it'd be a pain to unmount the projector).
  • The new bulb housing wouldn't go in all the way, even though I was positive it was aligned with the little rails in the projector. So I used more pressure than I should have…
  • Then when I realized it didn't seem to be in all the way (the bulb housing's screws caught nothing when turned), I tried to pull the bulb back out, but it was caught on something.

It was really stuck in there, and would not budge. So I did what anyone not afraid of an explosion would do under the circumstances -- I closed up the projector and powered it up.
The projector booted, but I could hear it failing to ignite the lamp. It'd make about 10 little clicking noises, pause, then do it again. I waited a minute, looked for smoke, then powered the projector down and resolved to unmount the thing and examine it. I was almost certain I wouldn't be able to set things right, and this would be my cue to start saving up for a new projector.
I finally got the projector down and started working on it on the kitchen table. I could not pull the lamp housing out, I pulled as hard as I felt was safe and then a little past that point, and nothing. I even wiggled it from side to side and top to bottom while pulling to see if it would free whatever was caught. Nothing.
Then I figured maybe if I pushed it in a little bit, whatever was caught would release. Nope. But it did push in further, in fact I could tell it'd go in far enough for the lamp housing's screws to reach their intended targets. So I pushed it in, put the projector back together, mounted it back on the ceiling, powered it up, and it worked. Light appeared.

So I've got a working bulb, that I'm unlikely to be able to ever remove from the projector without disassembling the whole thing.

The new bulb seems plenty bright, but definitely has a much cooler color temperature than the original bulb. I'll have to calibrate my white point all over again. Unfortunately, either my remote stopped working a couple of months ago or the IR receivers on the projector are dead. I hope it's the former, as I've ordered a replacement remote.

I've been running the new bulb for about 4 hours now. My whole living room is filled with a burning plastic smell, which I gather from other forum posts isn't necessarily uncommon when firing up a new replacement bulb. Some people even say they smelled burning plastic for the first 50 hours of a new bulb. I hope it goes away before that much time has passed.

My original bulb was still working, but it had become more dim over time. It'd passed the 2100 hour mark and my projector had started warning me that the bulb needed replacement. So it was time.

-Z
post #9112 of 9206
While I didn't smell any burning plastic with my Mwave bulb, I did have to do some minor trimming on the housing to get it to slide in. I suppose if you were getting rid of your old bulb and housing, you could try to reinstall the Mwave bulb in the old housing. I did that with a rear projection LCD TV once.
post #9113 of 9206
I took out my original stock lamp assembly last night. I then removed the bulb from the housing. I wore gloves while doing it. Sure enough the stock OEM original bulb is a Ushio!



Once I saw how the lamp is held in the housing I decided to assemble the Mwave Ushio bulb I received with the bulb loose in the housing. Since I am waiting for an exchange anyways I figured why not give it a shot. I got it assembled and installed it in the projector. First of all the screws that hold the lamp in the projector are shorter. I was able to get it installed but one of the screws ripped out a portion of the threads from the projector. The Mwave housing has shorter screws than the stock OEM housing. I can swap the longer screws over from the OEM housing if I feel the need. The lamp assembly is still tight enough but not the way it should be. Also, the housing did install fine but it was a bit more difficult to get installed than the OEM lamp. If I decide to keep this lamp I will probably swap the bulb into the OEM housing. It isn't hard to do at all. Just wear gloves if you plan to do it. You don't want to get any oil from your skin on the bulb. I did install my OEM lamp again and with the longer screws it threaded in perfectly.

Now, for the brightness and image quality of the Mwave Ushio lamp. WOW!!! my projector is back to the way it was when it was new. It is the way I remember it. It now looks like I have a 120" Plasma on the wall again. My original bulb is not extremely dull but it has lost some of it's pop. Also, I don't see any pinkish whites like I did with the first "cheap" Mwave bulb. The first Mwave bulb I received was dimmer than my over 1000 hour stock bulb and the color was different. I am not seeing any of those issues with this bulb.

I am still going to wait for an exchange from Mwave because the lamp was loose in the housing during shipping. I don't know if that could have an effect on its longevity. Hopefully the one I receive produces the same brightness and image quality this one does.

I would like to know why the numbers on this bulb don't match the original. They are both made by Ushio but the OEM one was made in Japan the Mwave one was made in China. I assume Ushio has plants in more than one country. I assume some of the numbers are serial numbers but I would think a portion of them should be the actually model number. Who knows...

They both do have "NSH160" on them. the OEM is NSH160HO or NSH160H0. I can't tell if it is an O or a zero at the end. The Mwave one is NSH160D. That appears to be the model number and it is a 160 watt bulb.
Edited by beekermartin - 10/13/13 at 9:51am
post #9114 of 9206
Thanks for the update. Very interesting. Jeeze, I may still end up ordering the $166 one.

Ed
post #9115 of 9206
No problem. I will continue to post updates as I have them.

I really wish I would have taken the bulb out of the "cheap" Mwave lamp before I returned it. I would love to know what bulb was actually in it. Maybe someone else here who has one of the "cheap" Mwave bulbs would be willing to do it. It is extremely easy to do. Two screws on the bottom hold the lens in place and one screw on the top holds the metal bracket in place. The bulb slides into the lens from the top and is held in place on the bottom with two tabs. The metal bracket piece hold another "L" shaped piece of metal that holds the bulb into the top of the lens. It takes less than two minutes to remove it. Of course make sure the bulb is cool before doing it. I had read that the bulb is fragile when it is warm/hot.

In fact since so many people have had issues with the aftermarket housing I highly recommend removing the new bulb from the housing and installing it in the original OEM housing. I have looked around for a bare OEM bulb option but I haven't found any sites that I am comfortable ordering from like Mwave.

If you do it be sure to pick up some disposable gloves.
post #9116 of 9206
Bought two lamps from mwave at the great price of $60 each. I'm still on the 2nd bulb (mwave) with under 1000 hours on it and the color and brightness is still very good and vivid. I also adjusted some of the settings and bumped the saturation to 60 and set my black level to High. Now, everything looks so rich and the colors really pop out of the screen. I've been very happy with the 8100 Pro.

I'm due to replace the filter, but I swapped out he original filter for the Endust electro-static filter. I think those don't need as much replacement than the original foam filter.
post #9117 of 9206
Happy for ya Shawn. Some people have all the luck, lol. I've also purchased (and returned) 2 lamps from mwave. The 1st one was poor and the 2nd was totally useless. Seems like most have had good results with them, maybe they switched suppliers? I may try a 3rd time depending on Beekermartin's latest results. At least they've been great to deal with.

Ed
post #9118 of 9206
Twice lately, I've turned on the projector and got the red/green status light. Checking the manual says "improper shutdown" (the manual says "in-proper [sic] shutdown due to power cut-off" (I guess they don't have someone to proofread their manuals). I wonder if this has to do with the timer that cuts the power at 2:00 a.m. until 8:00 a.m. ... haven't noticed it before, but I hope it isn't causing a problem.
post #9119 of 9206
The only improper shutdown I can think of would be cutting power before it's cycled down---cooled itself off via it's fan. I'm sure you don't leave it fired up and have your timer cut power.eek.gif That would be VERY im-proper.....wink.gif
Ed

I mean in-proper!
post #9120 of 9206
Nope. I always shut it off after a movie -- usually before 11 p.m.
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