Show us your screenshots!! - Page 3

Yeah, it must be nice to have a quiet room.

It sounds like a JET PLANE in the back of my room.

That RS1 is a nice little unit.

Cliffy

Cliffy

JVC RS1:

Cliffy

this thread is a serios distraction!
i've got al kinds of poeple waiting.
i;d be interested to know what pj for each screen shot.

Cliff, you have an RS1 right now?

Here is my set up for shots here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post12167876:

Projector: Sim2 Domino 30H
Player: PS3 and HD-A3
Screen: DIY DW laminate 106"
Camera : Sony DSC-S90

I don't know the settings on my camera. I just started playing around in mannual mode until it looked OK. Still fine tunning the settings and I will post when finished.

bguzman

No. That is Don Kellogg's RS1 earlier this year when he brought it over......

Cliffy

Actually, while I enjoy the screen shots on projectorreviews too, it appears to their reviewer, Art, seems to be placing a dubious level of emphasis on them. He often seems to me to be evaluating projector differences based on his screen shots. I know he obviously actually evaluates the actual projectors too but...

For instance, in his review of the JVC RS1 he actually measures the luminance difference of screen shots themselves from the RS1 and the Sony Pearl, and determines the JVC has much better black levels. "the Sony isn't even close when it comes to black levels, " and "the JVC black levels are 60% lower."


The conclusion that the JVC black levels kill the JVC black levels is seriously at odds with pretty much every professional review I read (or account by people who have had them side by side, calibrated). I certainly have nowhere else seen someone measure the JVC as 60 percent lower black levels vs the Pearl, when measuring the actual displays calibrated side by side. The consensus is generally that the black levels were extremely close between the JVC and Pearl - essentially a toss-up - but rather that the JVC was able to allow objects within darkness to be brighter, due to not using a dynamic iris.

So, while I like screen shots as much as the next guy, the emphasis of screen shots on that review site leaves me a bit dubious about some of the conclusions.

What is your impression of the Panasonic after seeing the RS1?

The RS1 has better blacks. That's pretty much it.

Cliffy

Were the RS1's black levels significantly better and aproaching CRT (as many claim)?

Heres a few shots from Pirates and Cars:

(On a Carada HCG 128" 2.35 screen - Marantz VP15S1 - Via PS3/bluray 1080p and Yamaha RX-V1800)

Man the RS1's blacks look good

I suppose that you could use screenshots to compare projectors - BUT only if the same camera was used, same settings (high resolution), set upon a stable tripod, left unmoved, same ambient lighting in room, same screen, same still image. This way, you would have a control with respect to the camera. The only variable would be the projector. Even with that set-up, you would still only be comparing those two projectors and from a limited perspective.

Oh yeah.. and no "post" modification of the images using any program (Photoshop... etc).

Catdaddy - WOW those may be some of the closest I've seen to the actual reference:

They are very good, but not CRT.

A properly calibrated CRT after gamma bump has blacks that are OUT OF THIS WORLD.

Cliffy

My VP50 was driving it, but that's all.

All of my screenshots are untouched as well. No photoshop, nothing.

I simply resize and post except for my latest ones, I've been cropping the 2:35 image, then reducing size by 50%, then post.

Cliffy

Cliffy,

Can you post your camera settings when you have a chance, as usual, your screenies ROCK! What do you think BTW of the colors of that new Panny?

While we're wasting bandwith...

VERY VERY NICE!!!!!!!!

My Kodak Easy Share Camera has fixed shutter speeds, so I depending on how much light I need, switch back and forth between "Auto" and "Night Mode".

Cliff

G90 Stack:

Art's HT5000:















Cliffy

Thanks Owl. They dont really do the actual picture justice. I had to take those shots in iris 3. but Ill try night mode as that should be better since I can take those in iris 1. Also, those pirates shots were with a tripod and all of the shots I am taking are fully stretched out through panamorph lens to 128" diagonal, too.

Im not using dynamic/ramped up contrast/sharpness settings or anything, just my normal viewing ones is probably why they look a little tame.

Where is that "reference" Pirates picture you have from?

I think I like watching these screenshots more than watching the actual movies!

G90 Stack:

MY RIG !!!!!!!!! WHUAHHHHAAAAAHHHHaaaaaaHHHHHAAAAA.













Actually, it's a screengrab....