The Official Onkyo TX-SR705 Thread (FAQ in 1st Post) - Page 144

Thanks for asking about those solo ones as I had the same question but forgot to ask
Yes you should set the DD, DTS and all the upper ones to be the same and NOT use Last Valid or else you will get clicking noises sometimes
Not sure about the others though

Thanks woots for adding it
Very helpful to those not up to speed on this continuing saga issue

Nice info on how to "fix" it and saying you can always change it
I will try this and see how if works for me

I dont really think setting the listening mode presets really "fixes" the issue though. It still seems to have a slight delay when the input signal changes, even if you have the same Listening Mode default for each of the signals.

The other thing is that mostly this happens when switching between DD 5.1 and DD2.0. For DD5.1 you want to use Dolby D, but for 2.0 you would be using PLII Movie say... I dont think there is any way to have PLII Movie on the DD5.1 signal is there (because you cant apply PLII to an alreadh 5 channel source)? I guess those of you with 7.1 setups may be in more luck, since you can have PLIIx mode for both in this case... are you saying that when you do this, you get absolutely no break in audio at all, when the signal changes between DD 2.0 and DD 5.1?

The audio pause for me is not long enough to really be bothered by it, although it would be much better if it didnt happen of course

Any ideas?

scarecrow,
Yep, 7.1 setup here. I've got PLII chosen for both DD 5.1 & 2.0. The brief delay is there. I most certainly agree with your last sentence. PLII sounds so good I don't mind the brief switching delay.

Skid

You must be right about the confusion. Yes I can get the setup menu's via HDMI but not the "Immediate Display" of volume.

I had not thought of the security issues of inputing HDMI and outputting Component. However, based on your comments I may try Component in and HDMI out to get the "Immediate Display".

Why?..... I can't see the receiver eaisily from my seating area.

I'm thinking about buying a TX-SR705 receiver, but my only drawback is that I plan to install it behind a closed door inside my home theater furniture. My furniture is made our of oak and I could easily leave up to 12 inches of space from the top of the receiver. But I don't know if my receiver will get to hot?

Also since my receiver will behind a closed door my IR remote won't work unless I use a IR-receiver and install it on plain sight. The problem is I haven't been able to find or not aware of an an ONKYO acceptable IR-receiver?

I would really appreciate any fine input you gentlemen can provide me. Best regards,

I ran Audyssey again and I have the same issue. The volume I hear does not increase from about 0db and above. Before Audyssey, the scale would indicate max volume at +18db and would get progressively louder all the way to max (and was very loud). Now max volume will not go beyond +17db and there is no actual increase in volume from about 0db through +17db. 0db is not really that loud at all where it was quite loud before Audyssey.

I checked the levels after Audyssey and they are at 0 for every speaker except the sub which is at +1. The fronts and center are set at Full Band and the surrounds at 150hz.

This did not seem right as Audyssey is not supposed to limit the volume, but it definitely does on my Onkyo. I contacted Chris at Audyssey again and he contacted an Onkyo engineer in Japan. This is his response:


Onkyo has informed me that what you are observing is part of their implementation. They have a limited amount of headroom and so they limit the max volume when Audyssey is turned on. We were not aware of this as we don't design their hardware. It must have something to do with the available gain they have in the amplifier. Remember, Audyssey provides filters that boost in some places and cut in others. To make sure that the boosts don't overload the electronics, Onkyo has decided to limit the max volume. Each manufacturer makes their own choices as to how to do this. Others have instead added a bigger gain stage to allow for higher volume.


Thanks
Chris


So there you have it. Onkyo limits the max volume with Audyssey enabled.

Yup, I was referring to the setup menus. Sorry for the confusion.

I just bought 2 Boston Acoustics Micro 110x satellites for the surround back speakers so now I have a complete 7.1 system with my Onkyo 705. I was watching DiscoveryHD and flipped the receiver for the first time into Dolby PLIIx. What I noticed is that almost all the sound that used to come from my surround speakers has now moved to the "surr back" speakers. So I walked over to my surround speakers and I put my ear up to them and noticed very tiny faint sounds coming from it but it didn't sound right. It is hard to explain the sound but it was just some jarbled high pitch noises. Then I changed over to my recording of American Idol and I got sound from all 7 speakers very nicely and everything sounded as I thought it should. So I thought maybe only DiscoveryHD was doing this, but last night I heard the same thing on A&EHD and on my local Fox station while watching the news. I can't hear the sounds just sitting on the couch, but only if I actually put my ear to the speaker. I guess I am more paranoid if anything else to make sure everything is setup right.

I only notice the wierd sounds when there is barely any surround action going on, like watching the news or "The First 48" or something that is pretty tame on the audio side. It is hard for me to tell if these wierd noises means something is wrong with my setup, or wires or something, or if these sounds is something Dolby PLIIx is creating that is normal. I've never walked over and put my ear right to my speakers before so I dont' know if this is normal or not. Can anybody offer some insight?

Is your settop box on fixed or passthrough? I noticed when mine was on the passthrough option, I had maximum delay when changing channels, due mainly to the format changes between channels (480i, 720p, 1080i). I decided to let my settop box fix the signal itself on 1080i, which pretty much erases any real delay between channel changes. That, along with setting my listening modes to default to PLII seems to go along way in my opinion to making the trasition between channels, and between programs/commercials while watching a channel, go smoother.

Technically, I'm an 805 owner, but that shouldn't really matter to your questions.

Similar install, armoire holds gear at the back of the room. I've been using a Terk Leapfrog for several years...think it was $25 delivered from Amazon.

With the door closed and 5" above and 7" to either side and open back, my 805 (running as a prepro only) stabilized at 48-56°C with variability most likely related to room ambient, processing mode selected, and output level. Even though Onkyo says this is well within normal, I opted to add a silent fan for peace of mind. A number of people have had good results with this unit. I chose to build my own...a pair of these and a spare 12V wall wart is all you really need. Since my proof-of-concept wall wart was a three prong unit, I opted to pick up this one from RadioShack and chose the bare lead adapter as my free adaptaplug. With shipping, some rubber feet, and the adapter, the total is a smidge above $40, but at 140mm, the fans cover nearly all of the processing section of the 805 compared to the 50mm fans in the BuyExtras product. Even at full 12v, they're whisper quiet...much quiter than the internal fan in the Toshiba HD-A2 that sits on the shelf above. The indicated temps still level out around 44°C, but the 805's case feels *MUCH* cooler than is indicated by the before/after probe readings.

-Brent

woots how do you like Lost Odyssey? i got stuck at the duo serpent boss and quit for a week or two. i like the game though.

already love that site, thanks

i love FF too and RPG's in general. it was more of a "don't feel like dealing with playing this boss for the third time, but i will eventually" type of thing. I just need to play smarter, sometimes I try brute force and forget to heal so i'm doomed.

Does anyone know if using EZ Sync also makes the unit use more power when it's actually on or is it when it's just in stand by mode, has anyone done any tests on this?

I have an Onkyo 705, Toshiba HD-A3, and Sharp Aquos 42" LCD, all connected with HDMI. However I'm noticing that my center channel (Energy C-C100) is sounding muffled when I watch movies. I used to have a Pioneer vsx-917 and was connected with optical/component and it sounded fine. Could it be the HDMI doing this or do I not have my 705 set up properly? I tryed to run the audessy..but it doesnt work, it keeps saying too much ambient noise when there is none, or gives me errors not detecting my center/rears even though it is making its annoying noise out of them while it does the test.

Can anyone shed some light on what's going on?

Audyssey problems with the Onkyo's (605 and 705) seem to be quite common. I had to send my 605 back because the Audyssey was not functioning. You may be in the same boat... you might want to thing about exchanging it if you can... hopefully you wil get one that works. I did, with my second one, a factory refurb'ed 705. (it has been flawless!)

I do have Comcast, with a Scientific Atlantic settop box. I am surprised you cannot do this on yours though. I was thinking that was a standard feature on setops nowadays, I dunno.

Also, on my box, the option called "Auto-DVI" is equivalent to what I am referring to as passthrough.

woots,
I'm tired, so forgive me if I'm totally off base here.

First the setup: DD 5.1 signals matrixed to PLIIx
DD 2.0 signals matrixed to PLIIx

This example is from watching college hoops this past weekend.
The studio portion of the game is in 2.0. The games are in 5.1 When going from game to studio (same channel mind you) there is about a 1 second or so delay. Same from going from studio to game.

This is the only delay with my setup I have. All other listening modes are kosher. Just the little DD5.1 to 2.0 pause. Again, I have no problem whatsoever with this delay. Usually it's from a network TV show to a commercial.

Hopefully this is the info you were looking for.

Take care mang.

Skid

crap now I have to list more setup info

SA8300HDC to 705 via optical
Under "Audio" options on the 8300, there is HDMI, Dolby Digital & Other. I have chosen DD over "Other" since it sounds the best. I can't get my 480i over HDMI with the 705, that's why I'm using optical for audio.

I have that delay on precisely one channel - CBS HD. I've never experienced it anywhere else.