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post #6511 of 8851
I do not have a code for the AVL LCD, and trying to have the Onkyo remote does not
seem to work. Any Ideas?
Thanks
post #6512 of 8851
I received my 705 a few days ago, and am going through the early stages of checking everything out..1 thing I noticed that is that I only get audio via HDMI on HD channels only. All non-HD channels I get picture but no audio..is this correct? Or is a some setting change needed in the Dish 622?
post #6513 of 8851
I can confirm that you should get the sound regardless of HD or SD. Are you sure that you are only using HDMI connection and not optical as well? Also check that you have turned off the HDMI option where it outputs the sound (Cant recall the exact settings item)
post #6514 of 8851
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Originally Posted by psilo357 View Post

I have ordered one of these receivers, should be getting it anytime now. I wasn't thinking about it but just did, i currently have a cabinet that has a glass door on front where I had all my old equipment before getting burglarized. With this new receiver, is it going to get too hot if I leave it in a cabinet that is surrounded on all sides? Do i need to look into purchasing an open audio rack? I will be putting a wii, the receiver, a hd cable dvr, a record player, and a cd player in it, with the ps3 sitting on top. This worked fine for my old technics receiver, but wondering if this onkyo will get too hot.

thanks

Its apt to get quite hot esp. when played at high volumes for considerable period of time. But as long as you are not stacking anything directly on top of it, and keep the glass door ajar, you may do just fine.
post #6515 of 8851
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Originally Posted by VishalG View Post

I can confirm that you should get the sound regardless of HD or SD. Are you sure that you are only using HDMI connection and not optical as well? Also check that you have turned off the HDMI option where it outputs the sound (Cant recall the exact settings item)

Yes, I WAS just using HDMI...so I called DISH Network and after 5 mins. of explaining to "tech supp." my issue; they told me that you will only get HDMI audio on channels that broadcast in DD 5.1...otherwise, no audio. I have also turned OFF HDMI AUDIO in Menu 7. So I now have connected optical to my 705 and run my HDMI cable direct to my Samsung Display....

HDMI is starting to bug me...
post #6516 of 8851
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Originally Posted by morg999 View Post

Yes, I WAS just using HDMI...so I called DISH Network and after 5 mins. of explaining to "tech supp." my issue; they told me that you will only get HDMI audio on channels that broadcast in DD 5.1...otherwise, no audio. I have also turned OFF HDMI AUDIO in Menu 7. So I now have connected optical to my 705 and run my HDMI cable direct to my Samsung Display....

HDMI is starting to bug me...

That's utter ********. I'm using a Dish Network HD receiver (not the DVR one) and I get all audio on my channels.

Basically read the FAQ and make sure you have HDMI AUDIO OUT set to off on the Onkyo Receiver. Don't be worried about turning it off. I wouldn't use the optical cord as it's not needed. You're connections are probably already fine, but make sure you're just using the HDMI out on the Dish Receiver without any other connections. Not sure if their is issues with more then one output.

But anyways, Dish Network are a bunch of moron's.
post #6517 of 8851
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Originally Posted by hurleyjj View Post

Good for you. My 705 is still alive and kicking 100% fine. I haven't visited the thread since page 170-something mainly because I've had no problems or concerns and needed no help. It's a fantastic receiver, btw.

Well I was finally able to get mine out of the Box and setup to test out with my new Def Tech's and Sammy 67"DLP.

Everything is fine so far EXCEPT FOR one thing.
When Using HDMI monitor out = YES and entering the on screen menu, I get a strange squelch like noise. The Noise was worrying me as it sounded potentially capable of damaging speakers.
at any rate, adjustments to the volume made no change to the sound or its level, even at volume-min.
I connected a composite cable to the monitor out of the 705 and to my tv and the OSD works fine there, no noise.
I moved and made sure no speaker cables were intertwined with power cables, or vice versa, although I have yet to swap out the HDMI cables.
the only thing I have connected via hdmi INs, is my PS3.
And the squelch was audible on the OSD whether the ps3 was on OR off.

HOWEVER, since then after trying to figure out WHY this what happening or what was causing it, I had entered and exited SEVERAL times from the OSD.
the first 10 times or so the squelch was there every time.. then I had my brother over and went to show him(3 minutes after hearing it the last time) and it didn't do it anymore.
THEN, it returned for a while. So far from what I can tell, I only get the Squelch noise when using the OSD via HDMI

If this has been discussed before and I missed it, sorry, theres an awful lot of pages here to read.
thanks for any help you guys can offer.
I hope I dont have to return it for a replacement.
post #6518 of 8851
Sorry you're having trouble, morg. I'm also using a Dish ViP622, and you should be getting audio on all channels via HDMI. On the STB, go "MENU" -> "6" -> "7" and select "Dolby Digital/PCM" and "Line Mode". I'm assuming that the problem isn't with the receiver because you're getting some sound, just not all of it. On the 705, I have the sources set as "Last Valid". Hope it helps!
post #6519 of 8851
Hit the SURR MODE Next or Prev buttons to toggle thru the different surround modes


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Originally Posted by chevydiddy View Post

yeah i hut the multich button by accident now i cant get back to my other audio outputs it s just saying multich pcm on my dvd player i cant get back to my true hd settings...
post #6520 of 8851
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Originally Posted by JRobin50 View Post

I recently purchased Polk Audios LSi15's,LSiC Center Channel, and LSiFX surround speakers (all 4 Ohm speakers). I was informed in another thread that my TX-SR705 will not have enough power for these speakers without a seperate amp. Not being very well versed in these compatibility issues I am turning to those of you who can help me. I am looking for some suggestions on either a replacement reciever (but I love my 705) or some choices on compatible amplifiers that will bring the 705 up to snuff. Thx for your help.

I note the sensitivity is 88db on the LSi series, which means it takes a bit more power to drive to reference level. A lot depends on room size and your audio level preference. You should be around +5ish max on the relative audio reading. Best bet is try it and see. Check the temperature reading on the 705 after watching for 30 mins.

Jim
post #6521 of 8851
Can anyone chime in on this?
Thanks



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Originally Posted by Triple-X View Post

Well I was finally able to get mine out of the Box and setup to test out with my new Def Tech's and Sammy 67"DLP.

Everything is fine so far EXCEPT FOR one thing.
When Using HDMI monitor out = YES and entering the on screen menu, I get a strange squelch like noise. The Noise was worrying me as it sounded potentially capable of damaging speakers.
at any rate, adjustments to the volume made no change to the sound or its level, even at volume-min.
I connected a composite cable to the monitor out of the 705 and to my tv and the OSD works fine there, no noise.
I moved and made sure no speaker cables were intertwined with power cables, or vice versa, although I have yet to swap out the HDMI cables.
the only thing I have connected via hdmi INs, is my PS3.
And the squelch was audible on the OSD whether the ps3 was on OR off.

HOWEVER, since then after trying to figure out WHY this what happening or what was causing it, I had entered and exited SEVERAL times from the OSD.
the first 10 times or so the squelch was there every time.. then I had my brother over and went to show him(3 minutes after hearing it the last time) and it didn't do it anymore.
THEN, it returned for a while. So far from what I can tell, I only get the Squelch noise when using the OSD via HDMI

If this has been discussed before and I missed it, sorry, theres an awful lot of pages here to read.
thanks for any help you guys can offer.
I hope I dont have to return it for a replacement.
post #6522 of 8851
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Originally Posted by morg999 View Post

Yes, I WAS just using HDMI...so I called DISH Network and after 5 mins. of explaining to "tech supp." my issue; they told me that you will only get HDMI audio on channels that broadcast in DD 5.1...otherwise, no audio. I have also turned OFF HDMI AUDIO in Menu 7. So I now have connected optical to my 705 and run my HDMI cable direct to my Samsung Display....

HDMI is starting to bug me...

I don't think "tech supp" is right. I have VIP receiver (dual tuner) and I have not connected anything else than just HDMi cable to my TV. No matter SD or HD, I get audio. Something is missing here..
post #6523 of 8851
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Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

I don't think "tech supp" is right. I have VIP receiver (dual tuner) and I have not connected anything else than just HDMi cable to my TV. No matter SD or HD, I get audio. Something is missing here..

I've noticed that if I either turn off the 705 or toggle thru the digital ins, the display changes to "PCM" from "DD" and the sound comes thru. But, if I go to a HD DD channel then to SD the display still says "DD" even though I ch anged the channel to non DD, it's as if the 705 is searching for DD, not finding it, so it plays nothing. That's what it seems like anyway....
post #6524 of 8851
Have you tried setting the listening modes to fixed modes? For instance mine is setup like here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post13585253

If that doesn't fix your audio problem, then I have no idea. Sorry
post #6525 of 8851
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Originally Posted by HamerPlyr View Post

Sorry you're having trouble, morg. I'm also using a Dish ViP622, and you should be getting audio on all channels via HDMI. On the STB, go "MENU" -> "6" -> "7" and select "Dolby Digital/PCM" and "Line Mode". I'm assuming that the problem isn't with the receiver because you're getting some sound, just not all of it. On the 705, I have the sources set as "Last Valid". Hope it helps!

I changed that setting in the STB- no change..I verified it IS something w/ the 705 as I plugged the HDMI directly into my Samsung Monitor and I got audio on all channels via HDMI thru the TV speakers.. :All the sources are set to "last valid" as well...
post #6526 of 8851
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Originally Posted by Airgumby View Post

Have you tried setting the listening modes to fixed modes? For instance mine is setup like here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post13585253

If that doesn't fix your audio problem, then I have no idea. Sorry

I tried those..still same trouble. Thanks...
post #6527 of 8851
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Originally Posted by Triple-X View Post

Can anyone chime in on this?
Thanks

I''l take a shot at it.
Did you go to menu 7 (hardware) and turn HDMI Audio to off? This will turn the Audio out on the HDMI out off. You will still get Audio over HDMI for your input side (from DVD,PS3,etc.)?
post #6528 of 8851
Hello all, I have a few questions. Here soon, I am planning on getting a new TV (Samsung ln46a650 to be exact). First question, since I am getting a TV of this caliber, I assume I wouldn't need a receiver that upscales to 1080p, because my TV would do a good enough job of upscaling for me?

Second question. I love to play games (both console and PC). I love to listen to music and I love to watch Blu-ray movies. This receiver will handle all the new HD-audio formats as well as DSD over hdmi output (I want a receiver that supports DSD in case the PS3 ever releases a new firmware update supporting such for SACD or if I ever get a standalone SACD player.). Therefore this would be a good receiver for me right? I mean if I only need the receiver to do what I listed above then this works right?

One last thought. I love good sounding PC games, which is why I bought Creative's 7.1 s750 700 watt gigaworks speakers back in 2004. I know this system isn't the best ever but it sounds good for me. Now I know how to hook the system up to the receiver, but I had a question about the gaming. If I do multichannel analog out from the PC to the multichannel inputs on the receiver will I be able to benefit from the EAX / OpenAL found with in PC games?

Sorry if some of these questions are off-topic, but I was looking at this specific receiver to buy and just wanted to make sure it was good for my needs? Note, I know the sr805 / 875 are awesome and I am sure someone will try to sell me on one of those, but they are out of my budget, where as this sr705 fits nicely.
post #6529 of 8851
I just picked up a brand new 705 today for $480 after tax. Very nice receiver. I'm excited!
post #6530 of 8851
Hello everyone, I am new to the forum, and just wanted to say hello. A little about myself: I am an expat living permanently in the Philippines (originally from the states - New Hampshire). I have always wanted to get a cool home theather system going, and finally took the leap.

Unfortunately, since I live in the Philippines, my options for what to purchase are extremely limited, so I am at a disadvantage.

I spent some time at one of the few "audio stores" (basically no better than Circuit City, but with the sales people being far less knowledgeable). Sony was having a good promotion of getting the equivalent of about $450 credit towards additional equipment when you purchase an LCD TV. I purchased a Sony Bravia KLV-37U300A and used the $450 to buy one of those "all in one" audio bundles Sony DAV-DZ750K that came with 5.1 speakers (but the subwoofer is passive, no internal amp) and a built in DVD player.

It has been nice for the few months I have had it, but I want "something more" - it is more "starter" than I wanted. :-)

Which brings me here. After doing a lot of research (the FAQ in this group is FANTASTIC!) I have decided on the Onkyo 705.

I have a couple of questions I am hoping someone can help with - things I didnt see anything on in the FAQ.

- The speakers that came with the "free" 5.1 system are all 3 ohms. Can I still use them with the 705?
- Since the Subwoofer is passive, and relied on the Sony unit for amp, what are my options for that?
- Our cable TV here is stone age (I think I remember the Jerrold box from my cable tv system in the states from like 25 years ago :-)). Suffice it to say it aint HD. Right now the coax cable is plugged directly into my bravia, and I have a pair of RCA cables plugged from the Bravia to the Sony unit for audio. Does this situation improve any when I get the 705?
- Are there opinions on the best place to buy it if customer service is not only necessary, but mandatory - if something goes wrong, I need to ship it back to the states etc. So while price is important, after sales service if necessary is a must have. I was thinking Crutchfield - even though they are more expensive, they have a long history, and I think a good reputation.

I should probably mention that my primary source of input is a PC that is being used as a HTPC. I have a video card with HDMI output, and want to use the SPDIF input on the 705. This is probably the biggest reason I am jumping to the 705 so soon. The Sony AVR has no digial inputs - they assumed that everything you will watch is on DVD. Since I live in the Philippines, I dont have access to many of the best shows on TV (Battlestar Galactica & Heroes among the best IMHO :-)). So I buy them online - its a nasty habit :-)

I also plan on getting an XBox 360 at some point (the one with the Blu Ray Disk player), but have not figured out how to keep my kids from playing it all day (hey, leave some time for Daddy! :-))

Sorry the post was so long winded, and hello to everyone out there

Joe
post #6531 of 8851
jwdaigle-

The speaker situation is troublesome. I can't find any online documentation on the Sony HTIB you cited, but I would be very careful about using those speakers with the Onkyo.

It's not just the low impedance (if they are really 3 ohms, they are going to be a challenging load for the Onkyo). It's also that in many cases speakers and amplifiers in HTIB systems are designed to work together, with built-in equalization or other compensation, in such a way that the speakers will not sound right used with another amplifier.

The passive sub is also problematic since the Onkyo has no amplifier channel for such a sub.

Finally, I have to question whether you have anything to gain sonically here, since even if the old speakers could be made to work with the Onkyo, they'd still be the old speakers and would sound no better than before. If your goal is better sound, you need better speakers; the Onkyo will not make these speakers sound any better (and 95% of the sound quality of any system is attributable to the quality of the speakers, all other things being equal).

On your other concerns, there's not much the Onkyo can do for your analog cable either. If the cable box has a video output (composite? s-video?), you can connect it (along with the analog audio outputs) to the Onkyo, and the Onkyo will upconvert the video to 1080i and send it out the HDMI port... but it will still look like SD analog video, and it's debatable whether it wilkl look any difrferent or better than the upconversion provided by the TV itself. As for audio, you will at least be able to apply some of the Onkyo's sound processing modes, assuming the incoming audio is at least in stereo. But again, the degree of improvement will not be dramatic, and without new speakers, hardly worth the investment.

With your HTPC, what the Onkyo can do for you depends a lot on what you feed it. Downloaded TV shows from iTunes etc., with their low resolution and stereo audio, are really not going to look or sound that much better than they do now; your TV connected directly to the PC's HDMI output is probably making the video look as good as it ever will, and the Onk's digital audio input will help you significantly only when you have a multichannel audio source.

If you're playing DVDs or, even better, HD-DVD, Blu-ray, or HD downloads from your HTPC, things start looking up, just as they would with any HD media source. The Onkyo will process all the various audio codecs, decode anything you send it bitstreamed via either SPDIF or HDMI, or process multichannel PCM from HDMI directly. When you get your X-Box, it will fit in perfectly.

But IMO getting the receiver first is to put the cart before the horse. You'd do better to sell the Sony system as a complete unit and starting over with better speakers. When you play a DVD on the Sonys now, in DD5.1 or DTS, you're hearing essentially the same sound quality you would hear if the Onkyo were driving them.
post #6532 of 8851
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

Sadly, I have nothing more to offer.

I did reread my 705 manual this morning and found that Onkyo actually specifies a *minimum* of 6 Ohms for the North American models (yes I know it still has the 4 Ohm setting and even a 3 Ohm power spec.)

You either have a broken 705 or your ML's are too much ... or both. Other than rechecking all your wiring for shorts, or trying less demanding speaker loads, I don't know what else you can do.

That having been said, if *I* had a nice set of ML's, I sure wouldn't even think of using a 705 to drive them ... that's kind of like putting a 1300cc Air Cooled VW engine in a Ferrari.

PS: Ok maybe it's (the 705) more like a '99 3.0L-148HP Taurus engine.

Finally got around to testing the 705, per your suggestion, with nothing more than headphones. I also put the temp on the display (oddly, the key combo for checking the temp is very finicky, maybe an indicator?).

Anyway, sure enough, after about 30 minutes (with the temp at 87F) the blue light and display start to flicker and the recvr locks up. I unplugged one of the HDMI cables, the display brightened, and it unlocked...for a few seconds. Then it locks back up and unplugging the power is the only remedy. Seems to be a bad unit. I'm on hold waiting for Onkyo cust relations. We'll see how that goes. Thanks to you and woots for your responses.
post #6533 of 8851
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Originally Posted by murphy4040 View Post

Seems to be a bad unit.

Yep.
post #6534 of 8851
Not to beat the Hum issue to death again, but I wanted some input on what the hum sounded like. This is what mine sounds like:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im..._hum_60_Hz.ogg

After reading the hum faq and searching this thread, it seems to be an HDMI issue when using HDMI for audio as well as video. I will try the various suggestions such as TOSLINK for audio out from the PS3 but it seems to defeat the purpose of having a PS3 since TOSLINK on PS3 can't send DTS-HD...
post #6535 of 8851
Just set up another friend's unit and he had the exact same issue (the hum), I'll have him try bypassing the HDMI to see if it helps (though he'll likely just return the unit and go with Pioneer as he is not happy right now, and less so if the solution requires him to stop using HDMI).


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Originally Posted by gte697h View Post

Not to beat the Hum issue to death again, but I wanted some input on what the hum sounded like. This is what mine sounds like:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im..._hum_60_Hz.ogg

After reading the hum faq and searching this thread, it seems to be an HDMI issue when using HDMI for audio as well as video. I will try the various suggestions such as TOSLINK for audio out from the PS3 but it seems to defeat the purpose of having a PS3 since TOSLINK on PS3 can't send DTS-HD...
post #6536 of 8851
I've had my SA 8300HD cable box hooked up via HDMI (input 1) for a few months now and recently I started to get 'No Signal' messages on my receiver. I'll be watching tv and the a/v will randomly drop. I have to unplug the HDMI cable and plug it right back in in order to restore sound and picture (solution works if I unplug it from the receiver or from the cable box).

I hooked up the cable box directly to the tv with the same cable and I don't have a problem which leads me to believe the issue is with my receiver. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? I'm hoping I don't have to send this in for repairs.

I have a PS3 hooked up to HDMI port 2 and it never drops out (although I don't use that as much as the cable).
post #6537 of 8851
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Originally Posted by aseer View Post

Just set up another friend's unit and he had the exact same issue (the hum), I'll have him try bypassing the HDMI to see if it helps (though he'll likely just return the unit and go with Pioneer as he is not happy right now, and less so if the solution requires him to stop using HDMI).

This is absolutely ridiculous. If the 705 is advertised as supporting HDMI ins and outs we shouldn't have to go through this obvious design flaw.

How the hell am I supposed to ship this gazillion pound behemoth back to Amazon?
post #6538 of 8851
It's been awhile since I've been on this site and I can't find the link for the firmware download. Any help would be appreciated.
post #6539 of 8851
I have a 705 coming and I downloaded the manual from the Onkyo web site mostly to figure out how to connect a line signal to the amplifier of my headphones (Stax). I thought I would use the Zone 2 line outputs but I just read they only pass analog originated signals. Would the Tape out jacks be better? Also, if I mute the unit, can I still get output from the zone 2 line jacks or will they mute also? Could I put a dummy phone in the headphone jack just to mute the speakers and still hear through the headphone/amp? If anyone knows for sure the answer to these questions, their replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
post #6540 of 8851
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Originally Posted by jerrydf View Post

I have a 705 coming and I downloaded the manual from the Onkyo web site mostly to figure out how to connect a line signal to the amplifier of my headphones (Stax). I thought I would use the Zone 2 line outputs but I just read they only pass analog originated signals. Would the Tape out jacks be better? Also, if I mute the unit, can I still get output from the zone 2 line jacks or will they mute also? Could I put a dummy phone in the headphone jack just to mute the speakers and still hear through the headphone/amp? If anyone knows for sure the answer to these questions, their replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Zone 2, Tape Out and VCR Out all work the same way. They only pass analog inputs. Muting or even turning off the main zone has no effect on zone 2. It's completely independent.
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