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post #8191 of 8851
I have read through most of this thread but can't find the answer to my question so I'm hoping someone will be able to help.

I have a 7.1 speaker set up and my Blu ray is set to bitstream out. To stop the clicking noises, I have set most modes to PLIIx Movie. This allows the use of all speakers when playing 5.1. My question is with regard to Blu rays with 7.1 and SD with 6.1 DTS Ex tracks. Will the 705 down mix the audio to PLIIx rather than play the separate tracks? I have DTS EX set to auto and both True HD and DTS master to PLIIx. Should I remove the PLIIx for 7.1 and 6.1?

I hope that all makes sense.

Thanks
Don
post #8192 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by donali View Post

I have read through most of this thread but can't find the answer to my question so I'm hoping someone will be able to help.

I have a 7.1 speaker set up and my Blu ray is set to bitstream out. To stop the clicking noises, I have set most modes to PLIIx Movie. This allows the use of all speakers when playing 5.1. My question is with regard to Blu rays with 7.1 and SD with 6.1 DTS Ex tracks. Will the 705 down mix the audio to PLIIx rather than play the separate tracks? I have DTS EX set to auto and both True HD and DTS master to PLIIx. Should I remove the PLIIx for 7.1 and 6.1?

I hope that all makes sense.

Thanks
Don

In the listening mode presets you dont have separate selections for 5 6 or 7 channel TrueHD/DTSMA. Im pretty sure even if you set PLIIx as the listening mode preset for TrueHD, DTSMA and MPCM it is smart enough to not use PLIIx if you are getting a full 7 channels input. I dont know how it would handle 6 channel though - by rights you saying you want to use PLIIx is saying you want to matrix it to 7 channels, so id assume a 6 channel input will at the very least duplicate the surround back channel into both surround backs. PLIIx is a processing mode to create rear channels when there are none in the source, so i dont think it's really a case of "downmixing" it - if they arent there it will create them, if they are then it has nothing to do. Thats how i see it anyway

Id suggest just trying it out to see... i only have a 5.1 setup though if i set my receiver up to think it has rear channels i assume i see the same settings/presets as you do. If you receive a 7.1 input source does it even let you select PLIIx? eg on mine if i am receiving DD5.1 i cant select DD PLII (it is only available when less than 5 channels are input)
post #8193 of 8851
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Originally Posted by scarecrow420 View Post

In the listening mode presets you dont have separate selections for 5 6 or 7 channel TrueHD/DTSMA. Im pretty sure even if you set PLIIx as the listening mode preset for TrueHD, DTSMA and MPCM it is smart enough to not use PLIIx if you are getting a full 7 channels input. I dont know how it would handle 6 channel though - by rights you saying you want to use PLIIx is saying you want to matrix it to 7 channels, so id assume a 6 channel input will at the very least duplicate the surround back channel into both surround backs. PLIIx is a processing mode to create rear channels when there are none in the source, so i dont think it's really a case of "downmixing" it - if they arent there it will create them, if they are then it has nothing to do. Thats how i see it anyway

Id suggest just trying it out to see... i only have a 5.1 setup though if i set my receiver up to think it has rear channels i assume i see the same settings/presets as you do. If you receive a 7.1 input source does it even let you select PLIIx? eg on mine if i am receiving DD5.1 i cant select DD PLII (it is only available when less than 5 channels are input)

Many thanks

Don
post #8194 of 8851
It looks like the 706 jas a built in HDMI repeater... I can't seem to find a spec sheet for the 705 which states it also has one.
post #8195 of 8851
Equipment:
Sony PS3
Onkyo 706
Panasonic AE3000 Projector

Problem:
When I hook up my system via HDMI (PS3 to Receiver to Projector) the HDMI is resetting every 3 seconds, like it is cycling through the HDMI inputs searching for a connection. The problem seems to be with the receiver. If I use my optical cable from the PS3 to the receiver and a standard composite video cable from my PS3 to the projector it works fine.

Any ideas would be appreciated and everyone have a great day.
post #8196 of 8851
My receiver no longer recognizes Dolby Digital and is trying to play it as either multichannel or stereo, depending on the source.

My sources include an HDA3 HD-DVD player hooked up by HDMI. The Onkyo will only play this as multichannel (or anything other than DD).

The other source is an HTPC which no matter if I use optical or SPDIF, it will never play my DD videos as dolby digital.

I've tried doing a factory reset on the Onkyo, but it didn't change anything.
I also did a firmware update, but no change there either. I updated ALL firmware.

I also went into source setup and set DD to be DD and DTS to be DTS. I also tried other settings. The HD-A3 DVD player used to work fine a long time ago, now only works via optical. The HTPC just recently stopped working properly.

Both play multichannel or stereo just fine. Just no Dolby Digital in some configurations.

Any ideas?
post #8197 of 8851
Very painful problem with my 705 last night. I was watching a recording off my SA 8300HD cablevision box (with an external sata hard drive) connected through HMDI when the sound died and the HDMI indictor started flashing. This happened twice before and I would just turn off the 705 and the cable box and things would go back to normal. The trick did not work this time around. I pulled the 705 power cord out for a few seconds which did not fix the problem. I then pulled the HDMI cable off the cable box and the 705 went DEADno display (on the 705 itself), nothing, even though it would go back to a red standby light when off again. I reset it to factory settings, and the display on the 705 still remained dead, very scary. Finally I left it alone for 10 mns and when I turned it back on the display was miraculously back. I proceeded with the painful task of resetting everything again as everything was wiped.

I know similar hdmi connection problems have happened to other users using the hdmi/cable connection but does anyone have any knowledge on this problem? I am honestly really worried now that the next time this happens, the unit will just die (it came close this time). I love my 705 and never had any problems otherwise. Also, does the DSP MA bomb update needs to be re-done now that I have reset it to factory settings?

Thanks for any feedback and apologies if this bug has been covered before.
post #8198 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocko66 View Post

Equipment:
Sony PS3
Onkyo 706
Panasonic AE3000 Projector

Problem:
When I hook up my system via HDMI (PS3 to Receiver to Projector) the HDMI is resetting every 3 seconds, like it is cycling through the HDMI inputs searching for a connection. The problem seems to be with the receiver. If I use my optical cable from the PS3 to the receiver and a standard composite video cable from my PS3 to the projector it works fine.

Any ideas would be appreciated and everyone have a great day.

Have you tried using a different HDMI input on the receiver? Perhaps it's isolated to a single input. Also, how long are the cables from source to receiver and receiver to projector?
post #8199 of 8851
Hi Jackaninny,

Did you fix your problem? I had the same issue last night (see my post today)...I'm wondering if it's something that can prevented going forward. Thx.
post #8200 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackaninny View Post

Love my 705 but the other day I turned it on and I had no sound. Checked other non-HDMI sources like CD and Tuner and even plugged into the phono jack with headphones and still nothing.

Did the factory reset tonight and still nothing and I still get the blinking HDMI indicator when selecting HDMI sources. Also to be clear I SHOULD be able to plug into the front phono jack with headphones and get a radio station when set to Tuner input correct?

I saw one other person with a similar issue but I don't know if his sound was totally lost or just with HDMI sources.

Thanks in advance.

(Sorry, I added the original quote from Jackaninny)

Hi Jackaninny,

Did you fix your problem? I had the same issue last night (see my post today)...I'm wondering if it's something that can prevented going forward. Thx.
post #8201 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

Are you measuring all 8 points during your Audyessy setup? I initially only did 3 and got the same response as you. But after doing 8 points, my room has come alive with sound.

Ditto! I went from 3 to 8 and the sound has a very nice smooth full stage now.
post #8202 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbonestl View Post

im sure this has been asked, i searched the thread, could not find anything though.

Has anyone tried to update the DSP's with the sony bdp-550 bluray player? I killed one trying to update with an old dvd player of mine, i don't want to have the same thing happen again. My 705 has a P at the end of the serial #, ive read that is relevant. I appreciate any feedback!

Mine has an S at the end and the firmware is

Main: 1.06/8223A

DSP1: 8214A

DSP2: 7518A

DSP3: 7820B

HDMI: 1.01/7706A

VD: 3.62/7717A
post #8203 of 8851
Quote:


I know similar hdmi connection problems have happened to other users using the hdmi/cable connection but does anyone have any knowledge on this problem?

When I was experimenting with trying to get my Xbox 360 working through an HDMI switch, my 705 shut off and put itself into protect mode. The simple fix was to move the 360 to a port on the receiver. As suggested above, try a different port.

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In the listening mode presets you dont have separate selections for 5 6 or 7 channel TrueHD/DTSMA. Im pretty sure even if you set PLIIx as the listening mode preset for TrueHD, DTSMA and MPCM it is smart enough to not use PLIIx if you are getting a full 7 channels input.

I got a new BD player today and was able to utilize bitstreamed HD audio. Shoot 'Em Up sent a 7.1 DTS-HD MA signal to my 705, so instead of using THX Surround EX (for the back surround), it reverted to THX Cinema.
post #8204 of 8851
I have my Oppo hooked up to my Onkyo via HDMI and DSD Multichannel SACDs play just fine, and I can choose the DSD mode on the Onkyo when playing these. However, when playing stereo DSD SACDs, I don't have the DSD option, only the typical DSPs. I can't figure out why I can use DSD on Multichannel and not stereo only DSD SACDs. Any clues? Thanks!
post #8205 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by scionfriar View Post

I have my Oppo hooked up to my Onkyo via HDMI and DSD Multichannel SACDs play just fine, and I can choose the DSD mode on the Onkyo when playing these. However, when playing stereo DSD SACDs, I don't have the DSD option, only the typical DSPs. I can't figure out why I can use DSD on Multichannel and not stereo only DSD SACDs. Any clues? Thanks!

what does the 705 identify the incoming signal as when you are receiving Multichannel DSD, vs stereo DSD?

To me, it sounds like the Oppo is not sending DSD when playing a stereo disc
post #8206 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by scarecrow420 View Post

what does the 705 identify the incoming signal as when you are receiving Multichannel DSD, vs stereo DSD?

To me, it sounds like the Oppo is not sending DSD when playing a stereo disc

I Have the listening mode preset for everything on this input. Dsd to dsd and all others to direct. A multi channel sacd shows dsd on the onkyo and a stero one shows direct and when I cycle through the dsps, dsd isn't an option.
post #8207 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by scionfriar View Post

I Have the listening mode preset for everything on this input. Dsd to dsd and all others to direct. A multi channel sacd shows dsd on the onkyo and a stero one shows direct and when I cycle through the dsps, dsd isn't an option.

I didnt mean listening mode i meant the identified input signal... if you press DISPLAY on the onkyo remote or AVR it will toggle the display between the listening mode in use (eg DIRECT, Dolby D, DSD etc), and the incoming signal type (eg PCM f.s or DD2.0 or DD 5.1 etc)

The onkyo only lets you select listening modes that are suitable for the input signal... so part of troubleshooting a problem like yours is to have a look at what the input signal actually is - in your case it sounds like the input signal will be stereo or 2 channel PCM or something... therefore the problem would be what the Oppo player is outputting, and not a problem with the 705
post #8208 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by scarecrow420 View Post

I didnt mean listening mode i meant the identified input signal... if you press DISPLAY on the onkyo remote or AVR it will toggle the display between the listening mode in use (eg DIRECT, Dolby D, DSD etc), and the incoming signal type (eg PCM f.s or DD2.0 or DD 5.1 etc)

The onkyo only lets you select listening modes that are suitable for the input signal... so part of troubleshooting a problem like yours is to have a look at what the input signal actually is - in your case it sounds like the input signal will be stereo or 2 channel PCM or something... therefore the problem would be what the Oppo player is outputting, and not a problem with the 705

Thanks Scarecrow. It lists the signal as DSD 2.0, 44.1KHz.
post #8209 of 8851
After lurking around and going through the mutlitple pages in both threads on this receiver I am still at a loss with my issue.

I have a PS2 connected via S-video and relaying it to HDMI to the TV. When I do this the image is very bright and washed out. Similar to Gamma settings too high on an LCD monitor. When I run the PS2 straight into the TV bypassing the receiver this issue does not occur. After pouring through the Instruction manual I see nothing even referencing this. I have other devices connected all through HDMI and the issue does not occur with them. Any ideas hints or suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Rob
post #8210 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyrievf1j View Post

After lurking around and going through the mutlitple pages in both threads on this receiver I am still at a loss with my issue.

I have a PS2 connected via S-video and relaying it to HDMI to the TV. When I do this the image is very bright and washed out. Similar to Gamma settings too high on an LCD monitor. When I run the PS2 straight into the TV bypassing the receiver this issue does not occur. After pouring through the Instruction manual I see nothing even referencing this. I have other devices connected all through HDMI and the issue does not occur with them. Any ideas hints or suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Rob


It's a long shot, but maybe the cable is messed up? I've had bad SVHS cables do strange things, like all red or B&W.
post #8211 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by scionfriar View Post

I have my Oppo hooked up to my Onkyo via HDMI and DSD Multichannel SACDs play just fine, and I can choose the DSD mode on the Onkyo when playing these. However, when playing stereo DSD SACDs, I don't have the DSD option, only the typical DSPs. I can't figure out why I can use DSD on Multichannel and not stereo only DSD SACDs. Any clues? Thanks!

Any suggestions? This is driving me slightly crazy. The Onkyo shows the signal source as being DSD 2.0 but it won't let me select DSD.
post #8212 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by scionfriar View Post

Any suggestions? This is driving me slightly crazy. The Onkyo shows the signal source as being DSD 2.0 but it won't let me select DSD.

This is consistent with what's in the Listenng Mode chart in the manual. The DSD listening mode only applies to 3/2 multichannel DSD soundtracks. Pure Audio, Direct and Stereo can be applied to both multichannel DSD and 2 channel DSD. You've already confirmed that you're receiving 2 channel DSD. What is it you think you're missing in terms of sound quality?
post #8213 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by kplex View Post

This is consistent with what's in the Listenng Mode chart in the manual. The DSD listening mode only applies to 3/2 multichannel DSD soundtracks. Pure Audio, Direct and Stereo can be applied to both multichannel DSD and 2 channel DSD. You've already confirmed that you're receiving 2 channel DSD. What is it you think you're missing in terms of sound quality?

Thanks Kplex. I was wanting to compare a DSD listening mode with the stereo and pure audio on my stereo SACDs to see if there was a difference.
post #8214 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyrievf1j View Post

After lurking around and going through the mutlitple pages in both threads on this receiver I am still at a loss with my issue.

I have a PS2 connected via S-video and relaying it to HDMI to the TV. When I do this the image is very bright and washed out. Similar to Gamma settings too high on an LCD monitor. When I run the PS2 straight into the TV bypassing the receiver this issue does not occur. After pouring through the Instruction manual I see nothing even referencing this. I have other devices connected all through HDMI and the issue does not occur with them. Any ideas hints or suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Rob

Just wondering, what are the firmware versions for video and HDMI on your receiver?
post #8215 of 8851
I lost the mic for my Audyssey MultEQ XT set up during moving. Now should I try to buy a new one some how or use my rock band mic? Has anyone used a different mic then the one provided?
post #8216 of 8851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Braehole View Post

I lost the mic for my Audyssey MultEQ XT set up during moving. Now should I try to buy a new one some how or use my rock band mic? Has anyone used a different mic then the one provided?

They claim every mic is calibrated to the receiver. I'm thinking if you use a 1/4" set up mic from any brand, should get you close.

The EQ may be a little off but the time delays and levels should be good.
post #8217 of 8851
Thanks OppoPX14
post #8218 of 8851
a new mic from Onkyo is only $12...

post #8219 of 8851
I did some caomparisons between an Onkyo Audyssey Mic and a Pioneer MCACC mic. Clearly a difference. The onkyo mic appears to be more sensitive.

The results are here:http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post16238433
post #8220 of 8851
Quick question for all the gurus in here. I have a ps3 connected to my onkyo and used the game source input. Recently the display is showing dck and not game mode nothing seems to change in settings and everything seems to work. Any Ideas?
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