For those searching for bargain players....dont forget the A2. IMO, value to build to quality to longevity (important for us with HD DVD dying out) I think it is the "best" player for the price. You can get them on ebay for 60-70 bucks shipped or Amazon for nearly that price. Now, I'm a source you can trust, I have owned EVERY second gen and later player, except the Integra 8.8 (all 3 of you
). Although the A35 and XA2 are "better" players, for 100-300 less, built like a tank, flawless playback (in my case), can play even hard-to-read discs (like Enemy at the Gates, which CANT be played on Gen 3 players), can output DTS 1.5 mbps over optical (the ONLY player that will do that), the A2 cannot be beat. I'd take it over an A3 ANYDAY. As I said look on ebay or Amazon Marketplace and you can get one for a steal.