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It appears the problem has to do with Harry Potter HD DVD. The THD track comes across as THD EX which should be 6.1 (I think being EX) but it shows up on the Onk as DD THD EX 5.1, so I think there is a bit of sorting out in the handshake going on and the player or AVR is getting confused on what to play. This also would explain the lack of playback options in the Onk because if it is getting more than 5.1 in THD then the playback options are limited to DD THD, THX Cinema, and DD EX per the 705 listening mode chart. I put in 300 and all works well, no handshake issues and all the listening modes are there, so it appears that the Harry P discs and the EX encoding are the issue. Does sound good though. It seems you just can't get it all without some pain.

HPIII is in DD THD without the EX and it plays fine without the handshake issues and with all the listening modes.
post #1202 of 1264
Hello Good Humans! When I play SD and HD concert videos (i.e. Heart) on XA2 (v. 2.7) set to 1080p24 I get what looks like an incorrect frame cadence which makes it unwatchable (very choppy). I tried changing Auto to Video or Film, it didn't help. When I reset the resolution to straight 1080p, then everything is fine, but then I have to reset it back to 1080p24 to watch movies to get the full benefit of 24fps. I use HDMI through Integra 9.8 set for through and then to JVC RS1. How did you solve this problem?
post #1203 of 1264
I have a concert HD DVD and it is also choppy @ 24fps as it should be as it was shot in video not 24fps film. The solution is to play them at 1080p 60 and yes, you have to go into setup each time to change it. The XA2 does not auto-detect cadence well or likely not at all. An auto-detect fix would be great.
post #1204 of 1264
I found this to be an issue with some movies as well, Austin Powers 1 & 2 for example...it sucks because I have to leave the player set to 10080/60 so that if the family plays movies while I am out, all DVD's work, wife is not to keen on having to change setup to watch a movie on the $500 DVD player I convinced her had to have (upgraded from A2)
post #1205 of 1264
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by crussell1492 View Post

I found this to be an issue with some movies as well, Austin Powers 1 & 2 for example...it sucks because I have to leave the player set to 10080/60 so that if the family plays movies while I am out, all DVD's work, wife is not to keen on having to change setup to watch a movie on the $500 DVD player I convinced her had to have (upgraded from A2)

Why is 'The Family' messing around with your gear when you're out?


Toshiba should add proper detection or a remote code to switch between p24 and p60...
post #1206 of 1264
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Originally Posted by crussell1492 View Post

I have to leave the player set to 10080/60 so that if the family plays movies while I am out, all DVD's work

Sorry, but... I don't get this at all. All DVDs work at 1080p. Leave it set there!

I doubt your wife cares one whit about 24 vs 60 for movies!!!???
post #1207 of 1264
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

Sorry, but... I don't get this at all. All DVDs work at 1080p. Leave it set there!

I doubt your wife cares one whit about 24 vs 60 for movies!!!???

He does, but when HE watches a movie that can take advantage of 1080/24p he switches it.
post #1208 of 1264
I believe there is a PQ improvement when watching SD DVD @ 1080/24, for movies that work at 1080p/24. The problem is that its not possible to tell if a movie will play well at 1080/24 without trying it. If it does not play well at 1080/24 then you have to stop the movie, go into set up, change to 1080/60, then play the movie.
All I am saying is that while I dont mind doing that, the rest of my family (and I am thinking most of the world at large) would rather just stick the movie in and press play.
SO of course the answer is just leave it at 1080/60, and dont forget to change to 1080/24 for HD-DVD movies, and then switch back to 1080.60 for SD, oh unless they movie play better at 1080/24..blah..blah..blah...
post #1209 of 1264
But crussell92 you were complaining because your wife was complaining. All you have to do is re-set the XA2 to 1080p when you're done watching at 24p. No wife problems!

Sure, that it doesn't auto-set/reset to/from 24p is a PIA, but you can surely hide that issue from the wife/family!?
post #1210 of 1264
I'm having a problem updating my HD-A2.

I haven't done this before but yesterday I ran a Ethernet cable across the floor from my router to the player. After setting up the Ethernet connection and gettting my router to see the player, I started the update. Everything went well initially. It said on the front of the player "Download 1/40", then "Download 2/40" and so on. On the TV screen it said something to the effect of "Update in progress. Do not unplug." I wasn't paying attention until I noticed on the TV screen had changed to "can not find out server" and the display on the player said "MSSG". Linksys says the router is still seeing my player. All remote and front panel controls were locked out.

I know it can take a long time to update the player so I left it alone for 12 hours. All that happened is the "can not find server" screen went off. Waking up at 4 AM, I saw nothing more had happened. I finally pulled the power plug and reset the player. I re-initialized it, reset the Ethernet connection and tried updating it again. This time I watched what happened. The TV screen again said it was updating and don't turn off the power. The front panel display got to "Download 38/40" before it went to "can not find out server" and "MSSG" again. I haven't done a thing since then. The player has been sitting for the last half hour with no change.

Any ideas?
post #1211 of 1264
When the MSSG appear on the display just press OK on the remote and the update will continue. I thought it was an error code M556, but it stands for MESSAGE and some even get a message on their screen (I did not, it was just black and I was about to return it when I accidentially pressed OK)... Hope it works out for you.
post #1212 of 1264
I just posted this in the A2 thread, but think it is important for us in this thread as well.

It appears that Paramount is not too happy with Toshiba and will try to part ways. I don't see how HD DVD can survive in the long term as a competitive HD format in any major sense. I'm not saying that HD DVD is dead, but I can't seem to find a pulse. Sad, I love my A2. It was (is?) the best deal in HD.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ea637496-b...nclick_check=1
post #1213 of 1264
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Originally Posted by MarketingProf View Post

I just posted this in the A2 thread, but think it is important for us in this thread as well.

It appears that Paramount is not too happy with Toshiba and will try to part ways. I don't see how HD DVD can survive in the long term as a competitive HD format in any major sense. I'm not saying that HD DVD is dead, but I can't seem to find a pulse. Sad, I love my A2. It was (is?) the best deal in HD.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ea637496-b...nclick_check=1

Just more hysteria from the media just like Gizmodo is doing if alot of this is false never know when there might be lawsuits.
post #1214 of 1264
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Originally Posted by yellowcanary73 View Post

Just more hysteria from the media just like Gizmodo is doing if alot of this is false never know when there might be lawsuits.

Mebbe, I hope so. My only probelm is that I don't see Toshiba coming out strongly on this. Maybe I'm just not reading the right coverage, or the media isn't printing it.

But I don't think the following quote from Toshiba is helping dissuade the conclusion that Paramount will jump.

"Keisuke Ohmori, a spokesman for Tokyo-based Toshiba, said the report is speculative."

A very weak response in my opinion.
post #1215 of 1264
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Originally Posted by MarketingProf View Post

Mebbe, I hope so. My only probelm is that I don't see Toshiba coming out strongly on this. Maybe I'm just not reading the right coverage, or the media isn't printing it.

But I don't think the following quote from Toshiba is helping dissuade the conclusion that Paramount will jump.

"Keisuke Ohmori, a spokesman for Tokyo-based Toshiba, said the report is speculative."

A very weak response in my opinion.

There was also a quote from Paramount saying they are still backing HD DVD
post #1216 of 1264
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Originally Posted by yellowcanary73 View Post

There was also a quote from Paramount saying they are still backing HD DVD

Yeah, I saw that too.
post #1217 of 1264
I have had a Toshiba A20 for about 2 months and really enjoy it. After thinking about getting a blu ray, I decided to go with hd-dvd instead. The picture,(on my Samsung lnt 5271f) is beautiful. I am especially impressed with how well it upconverts standard dvds to make them appear to be almost hd quality. It is truly an amazing piece of equipment.

Would anyone like to buy it?
post #1218 of 1264
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Originally Posted by valmont74 View Post

When the MSSG appear on the display just press OK on the remote and the update will continue. I thought it was an error code M556, but it stands for MESSAGE and some even get a message on their screen (I did not, it was just black and I was about to return it when I accidentially pressed OK)... Hope it works out for you.

Thanks for the advice. I tried this and yes, the OK button got me into the Set Up menu. From there I could do whatever I wanted to within that menu but the moment I exited the menu, I was back to where I was. No function. No nothing. Locked up. Leave the player alone for hours and nothing happens. The only solution was to pull the power plug.

At least I did get my player to successfully download all 40 of the 40 updates. But when I plugged my HD-A2 back in and go to Maintenance > Update, it shows I still have the Version 1.3 firmware in the machine. The new firmware never loaded. It was down loaded but was never incorporated into the player.

Further help, please.
post #1219 of 1264
That was a pain. Sixth try is the charm.

First I eliminated the router, plugging the player straight into my cable modem. It then took three more tries to make it totally through the update. First time it stopped once again after downloading 38 of 40 and locked up. Next time it downloaded all 40 parts but went straight into Set Up and again locked up, as described above. Finally I waited to try an update late at night. This time a new display popped up on the player after the downloads, Step 1/5, 2/5, etc. This looks promising! Leaving well enough alone, I fell asleep on the couch only to wake up and find my HD-A2 turned off. Checking under Maintanance, it was finally updated to firmware 2.7.

Yeah, team!
post #1220 of 1264
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Originally Posted by ggergm View Post

Thanks for the advice. I tried this and yes, the OK button got me into the Set Up menu. From there I could do whatever I wanted to within that menu but the moment I exited the menu, I was back to where I was. No function. No nothing. Locked up. Leave the player alone for hours and nothing happens. The only solution was to pull the power plug.

At least I did get my player to successfully download all 40 of the 40 updates. But when I plugged my HD-A2 back in and go to Maintenance > Update, it shows I still have the Version 1.3 firmware in the machine. The new firmware never loaded. It was down loaded but was never incorporated into the player.

Further help, please.

Try to download the 2.7 upgrade as a zip-file from the Toshiba site to your computer, unzip it and burn the ISO as an image on a CD. Then try to do the upgrade via that instead. I hope that might do the trick.
post #1221 of 1264
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Originally Posted by valmont74 View Post

Try to download the 2.7 upgrade as a zip-file from the Toshiba site to your computer, unzip it and burn the ISO as an image on a CD. Then try to do the upgrade via that instead. I hope that might do the trick.

When I got mine, it was at 1.3 as well and I didn't even try the internet update. I did the zip-iso download myself and it worked great. I probably could have done the internet, but seeing mixed reports on this thread for that form of update, I figured ISO was the best route. Worked good for my A2.
post #1222 of 1264
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Originally Posted by valmont74 View Post

Try to download the 2.7 upgrade as a zip-file from the Toshiba site to your computer, unzip it and burn the ISO as an image on a CD. Then try to do the upgrade via that instead. I hope that might do the trick.

I didn't notice this option on Toshiba's site. Too bad. I would definitely have tried this.

Oh well, all's well that installs well, and I'm OK now.

Thank you for all your help.
post #1223 of 1264
My XA2 is running firmware 2.7. I don't play SD DVD's very often and just noticed that my PIO PRO150 shows it is receiving 1080p yet the display on the XA2 shows 1080i. I have the XA2 set to up to 1080p. When playing HD DVD's, both show 1080p Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks.

Jim
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post #1225 of 1264
Looks like forced 1080p24 is now an option which is good. Playing burnt HDDVDs is nice but not necessary for most people at the moment. Quite frankly I'm more concerned whether this format will make it, in light of the recent strides by the Blue-Ray camp.
post #1226 of 1264

Thanks for the info. It certainly is an excited news.
post #1227 of 1264

Very good news.

At least Toshiba continues to support their product.
post #1228 of 1264
WOW THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

I thought to myself, wouldn't it be great if it could play hd-dvd-r content?

If hd-dvd burners go big in the market hd-dvd players will be useful for years to come.
post #1229 of 1264
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Originally Posted by jmdajr View Post

WOW THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

I thought to myself, wouldn't it be great if it could play hd-dvd-r content?

If hd-dvd burners go big in the market hd-dvd players will be useful for years to come.

Does anyone make HD DVD burners?

Bill
post #1230 of 1264
I ran my 2.7 firmware disc today with great success!

My A2 went from a 1.3 player to a 2.7 with the update disc.

If anyone needs one quickly, PM me.
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