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Well, a few months ago I purchased a HTIB. The Onkyo HT SR800. I love it, but it is just much too loud for my apartment, so now I'm looking for something a little scaled back and without a subwoofer. I want something that will at least match the quality of the Onkyo system, and still pack a little punch to make up for the lack of subwoofer. I do have a budget of around $400, so what can I do? Are there any speakers and receivers that are even worth looking on such a "small" budget? (I say small because it seems the average budget on these forums are much, much higher) Thanks for any input
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I think speakers are going to be the most critical choice if you're to fore-go the sub. I live in an apt too, so I know all too well what you're talking about (subs are a no-no and will get the cops called on you ). However, I don't buy that "too much" story, especially if you're talking about power. Skilled use of the volume knob and cool neighbors will help. Surprisingly, my small bookshelf computer speakers at an extremely low volume bother my neighbors more than the floor standers I have with a 200wpc power amp driving them at 'risky' volume levels. So that tells me acoustics are a factor. Try to keep your speakers near the outer apt walls, not inner walls.

I'm not sure how you're going to pull off a reasonable system w/ no sub at $400. I know you can get buy with 2-channel instead of 5/7.1. That's why I say speakers will matter the most, even if you have to drive them with a cheap receiver. Nice speakers can provide you with fantastic imaging, bass, and everything else. I'm going to recommend some starter systems advice that will allow you to expand your system when you get a little extra cash. Buy the best speakers you can afford. With no sub, look for a mid-sized to floor standing model. For example, Paradigm's older Monitor series would be great. They're getting old enough now they don't have much resale value, but I can assure you you'll be pleased with them until you're able replace them. I'm sure someone else will chime in with a rec.

Next, be choosy in your electronics. I think that in the long run, you'll eventually stay with receivers or go with separates. Some folks go with an integrated amp; they are similar to a receiver, with less annoying features, and usually better quality. I highly encourage separates because they are easier to buy, trade, & sell, not to mention they are of better quality; it's more of a modular approach with you being able to selectively replace parts of your system without having to ditch the entire command center altogether. A simple preamp like the Rotel RC-1070 will do just fine. I think it runs something like $350 new (check ebay). Add an amp and you're good to go!

I understand that money is an issue. It always is. But if you're careful to lay a solid foundation, the extra money you spend will pay off in spades over the long run. I purchased only used equipment while I was in college. Receivers had to work for me because I couldn't afford separates. So just think of it like this: from now on, think of every purchase as an investment. Make smart purchases--this involves patience--just waiting for what you want to show up for sale or finding the best alternative. If you're not sure on something, then sleep on it or do more research. Don't be impulsive. And deal with someone that understands your need to not annoy your neighbors and will let you return things.
post #3 of 4
Pioneer Elite makes an integrated amp for $200 retail...
45 x 2
remote
phono pre-amp
tape 2 inputs
A/B speaker connections

I used to own one; and, I always though it was a great piece for the money.
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Originally Posted by Lazonby View Post

I think speakers are going to be the most critical choice if you're to fore-go the sub. I live in an apt too, so I know all too well what you're talking about (subs are a no-no and will get the cops called on you ). However, I don't buy that "too much" story, especially if you're talking about power. Skilled use of the volume knob and cool neighbors will help. Surprisingly, my small bookshelf computer speakers at an extremely low volume bother my neighbors more than the floor standers I have with a 200wpc power amp driving them at 'risky' volume levels. So that tells me acoustics are a factor. Try to keep your speakers near the outer apt walls, not inner walls.

I'm not sure how you're going to pull off a reasonable system w/ no sub at $400. I know you can get buy with 2-channel instead of 5/7.1. That's why I say speakers will matter the most, even if you have to drive them with a cheap receiver. Nice speakers can provide you with fantastic imaging, bass, and everything else. I'm going to recommend some starter systems advice that will allow you to expand your system when you get a little extra cash. Buy the best speakers you can afford. With no sub, look for a mid-sized to floor standing model. For example, Paradigm's older Monitor series would be great. They're getting old enough now they don't have much resale value, but I can assure you you'll be pleased with them until you're able replace them. I'm sure someone else will chime in with a rec.

Next, be choosy in your electronics. I think that in the long run, you'll eventually stay with receivers or go with separates. Some folks go with an integrated amp; they are similar to a receiver, with less annoying features, and usually better quality. I highly encourage separates because they are easier to buy, trade, & sell, not to mention they are of better quality; it's more of a modular approach with you being able to selectively replace parts of your system without having to ditch the entire command center altogether. A simple preamp like the Rotel RC-1070 will do just fine. I think it runs something like $350 new (check ebay). Add an amp and you're good to go!

I understand that money is an issue. It always is. But if you're careful to lay a solid foundation, the extra money you spend will pay off in spades over the long run. I purchased only used equipment while I was in college. Receivers had to work for me because I couldn't afford separates. So just think of it like this: from now on, think of every purchase as an investment. Make smart purchases--this involves patience--just waiting for what you want to show up for sale or finding the best alternative. If you're not sure on something, then sleep on it or do more research. Don't be impulsive. And deal with someone that understands your need to not annoy your neighbors and will let you return things.


Well, I guess you could say they are too much. I've had no complaints about actually hearing music, just the pounding of the sub, so I figure if I get some decent speakers without a sub, problem will be solved. I admit it, I AM a bass junkie. Four 15" subs pushing 1000W a piece is my wet dream, but I realized that even one 240W 10" sub is way overkill for an apartment. I've decided to try and curve my bass addiction and get some quality bookshelf speakers or medium size floor standing models coupled to a decent receiver. Another thing I will admit is that I am a complete noob when it comes to speakers and speaker setups. I know very little about all of this.
One last thing is that my budget is pretty much set in stone. I'm getting the $400 from selling my Onyko HTIB :-/


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Originally Posted by oldschool4life View Post

Pioneer Elite makes an integrated amp for $200 retail...
45 x 2
remote
phono pre-amp
tape 2 inputs
A/B speaker connections

I used to own one; and, I always though it was a great piece for the money.


I just looked that up and it looks sweet.

What do you guys think about that Pioneer Elite A-35R with a pair of Cerwin Vega! VE5M's connected to it? I know I will be severly lacking in the bass department, but it seems like two quality products that fit in my budget.
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