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post #7081 of 8826
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Originally Posted by lou99 View Post

With the Salk HT3's, is a dedicated amp a must or would a mid-range (~105wpc) receiver be enough to power them to moderately loud (90 with close to 100db peak) levels?

Hi lou99,

You might find this thread of interest:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=105564.0

I have Emotiva UPA-1 monoblocks - 200wpc at 8ohms. Jim posted that he didn't think these would be enough for the HT3s. He actually said that they wouldn't be a good match, but I took it to mean that they didn't have enough oomph. Keep in mind that watts per channel is not the only important variable in evaluating amps - enough current to handle peaks is important also.
post #7082 of 8826
Thread Starter 
I agree about feeding the HT3's as much power as possible. They are power hungry monsters, but when you feed them the juice they deserve they'll sing like none other in their price range. The more power the better bass control you'll gain as well. That 10" deserves all the wattage you can provide.
post #7083 of 8826
I will mention that I can't compliment the ice power amps like D-Sonic or Wyred4Sound for providing ample and well controlled amp power - especially if you have large drivers such as the HT3's. SQ accuracy and power delivery is spectacular.

For the HT3's I would reccomend the 500w per ch module units.
post #7084 of 8826
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Originally Posted by lou99 View Post

With the Salk HT3's, is a dedicated amp a must or would a mid-range (~105wpc) receiver be enough to power them to moderately loud (90 with close to 100db peak) levels?

Treat 'em like a two ohm speaker. Ya want an amp that can push ~1000w into 2 ohm, which would give an SPL gain of 30db.

At 10 feet the HT3s would be somewhere around 68db/w (maybe perceivably a bit more, depending on what's going on in your room). 68 + 30 = 98db at that distance; perhaps a bit more but not something I would bank on. The Crown XLS 2000 does meet this spec.

...Honestly, it seems to me the HT3 has been made obsolete by the SS8. >_>;
post #7085 of 8826
Thank you.
post #7086 of 8826
took the plunge and ordered a pair of Song Towers... the next few weeks are going to crawl by ... anxious to hear how they sound

I have some Aperion 6Ts currently on a Pioneer SC-35 Elite receiver.

Frank
post #7087 of 8826
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Originally Posted by wyowolf View Post

took the plunge and ordered a pair of Song Towers... the next few weeks are going to crawl by ... anxious to hear how they sound

I have some Aperion 6Ts currently on a Pioneer SC-35 Elite receiver.

Frank

The time will go quickly and you are in for a treat. I have not heard the 6Ts but from what I have read the are a great speaker. I will be interested in your thoughts on how the two speakers compare.

Bill
post #7088 of 8826
Thread Starter 
Congrats, wyowolf, and welcome to the Salk family. What veneer did you choose? Also, did you go with the dome or RAAL ribbon tweeter?
post #7089 of 8826
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post

I will mention that I can't compliment the ice power amps like D-Sonic or Wyred4Sound for providing ample and well controlled amp power - especially if you have large drivers such as the HT3's. SQ accuracy and power delivery is spectacular.

When you say you "can't compliment" the ICE power amps, did you mean to say you "can't compliment them enough"? Or are you saying they're inadequate?
post #7090 of 8826
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by thirdeye11 View Post


When you say you "can't compliment" the ICE power amps, did you mean to say you "can't compliment them enough"? Or are you saying they're inadequate?

He owns two, so he meant he cannot compliment them enough.
post #7091 of 8826
The ss8 might have replaced the ht3, but there are several used ht3s floating around the Web at 40-60% off.
post #7092 of 8826
I chose the standard curly cherry w the red dye, but asked for it not so red
the standard dome tweeter really anxious to hear how they sound.

I thought about the ribbon but 700 was a bit steep for me...

I just took back a pair of B&W CM8s... they were ok, but really not better then the 6Ts i have... and cost twice as much.. the STs are cheaper

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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Congrats, wyowolf, and welcome to the Salk family. What veneer did you choose? Also, did you go with the dome or RAAL ribbon tweeter?
post #7093 of 8826
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Originally Posted by thirdeye11 View Post

When you say you "can't compliment" the ICE power amps, did you mean to say you "can't compliment them enough"? Or are you saying they're inadequate?


Nuance has it right.... My bad - posting from my phone...

Yes, the Wyred4Sound and D-Sonic with 500w ASP modules for each channel. They really do a nice job with the bass, better then most amps ive experienced and very clean throughout the rest of the range...

I'm very happy with them...
post #7094 of 8826
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Originally Posted by lou99 View Post

The ss8 might have replaced the ht3, but there are several used ht3s floating around the Web at 40-60% off.

I don't think replaced is really the right word, since you can still order a new pair, and there are several major design differences between the two models, but your point is a very good one. I'm sure that several HT3 owners are feeling the bug to up grade to the SS8 (myself included). The bottom line is that the HT3s are amazing speakers, and they were the flagship that SalkSound built it's reputation on. If you think they will suit your needs and you can find a pair on the used market (at a substantial savings) then do not hesitate. They are still outstanding speakers, just not the "new hottness"

plus I am sure that Jim is busy with all the "tax time" orders so you wouldn't have to wait in line... I searched for "Salk HT3 For Sale 2012" and found two ads that are current. One walnut, one black.
Cheers
post #7095 of 8826
Seas W15 drivers are in short supply=at least another week's delay on my speakers. Major catastrophe!
post #7096 of 8826
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Originally Posted by wyowolf View Post

I chose the standard curly cherry w the red dye, but asked for it not so red
the standard dome tweeter really anxious to hear how they sound.

I thought about the ribbon but 700 was a bit steep for me...

I just took back a pair of B&W CM8s... they were ok, but really not better then the 6Ts i have... and cost twice as much.. the STs are cheaper

Which color did you decide to dye the veneer?
The RAAL upgrade decision is tricky. But, based on what I read, (about the price and performance), it seems very attractive.
The $700 more goes directly into your drivers. So, the ratio of component cost to final price is really very attractive with the RAAL upgrade.
I'm also assuming that Jim is absorbing the amorphous core price.
post #7097 of 8826
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Seas W15 drivers are in short supply, so there's a delay on my speakers. Major catastrophe! Woe is me, what ever shall I do? :-(

Hehehe........I know the feeling. My HT2-TLs were delayed due to a delay in getting the RAAL tweeters.

Don't worry, once you get them the delay will be a distant memory.
post #7098 of 8826
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Don't worry, once you get them the delay will be a distant memory.

You're right, but it's been 47 days (since I've made the deposit). I've visualized the layout, planned the setup process and measured where everything's going about 100 times. A man can only take so much!
post #7099 of 8826
^^^

hang in there... once you open that box and see them along with their birth certificate, it will really hammer home that they were made specifically for you, and before even playing any music, the wait will be forgotten...

besides... 47 days is nothing...
post #7100 of 8826
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

You're right, but it's been 47 days. I've visualized the layout, planned the setup process and measured where everything's going about 100 times. A man can only take so much!

You think it's bad now, just wait until they ship and you're checking FEDEX tracking 500 times a day!
post #7101 of 8826
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

You think it's bad now, just wait until they ship and you're checking FEDEX tracking 500 times a day!

I hear that. Knowing the wait for shipping would be the worst part has actually made the wait for building much easier, if that makes any sense.
post #7102 of 8826
Thread Starter 
To those waiting for speakers hang fast - it is worth it. I waited about 8 months I believe, but I was an annoying customer; I really wanted a ribbon tweeter in my SongTowers and waited for the new design to be created. I knew it was all worth it the day I took delivery of the first pair of ribbon SongTowers .
post #7103 of 8826
47 days!!!!!!!!!!!!

much saddness...

JS said 30-45 days... I am hoping for sooner.

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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

You're right, but it's been 47 days (since I've made the deposit). I've visualized the layout, planned the setup process and measured where everything's going about 100 times. A man can only take so much!
post #7104 of 8826
I've only been waiting 12 days for my speakers and this thread is making me even more antsy. Must stop reading!!! :Eek:

47 days is rough!! I'm sorry to hear it's been so long!
post #7105 of 8826
basically like the photo, except the boss wanted a little less red in the cherry I think...

I was torn on the upgrade... I wondered just how much of a difference there was... anyone have experience between the two versions?
and 700 was gonna push the price to nearly 3k total... getting dangerously close to high Spousal Disapproval Factor



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Originally Posted by lifeisbeautiful View Post

Which color did you decide to dye the veneer?
The RAAL upgrade decision is tricky. But, based on what I read, (about the price and performance), it seems very attractive.
The $700 more goes directly into your drivers. So, the ratio of component cost to final price is really very attractive with the RAAL upgrade.
I'm also assuming that Jim is absorbing the amorphous core price.
post #7106 of 8826
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

You think it's bad now, just wait until they ship and you're checking FEDEX tracking 500 times a day!

i am surprised that my ip address is not permanently banned by the fedex website... i'm surprised the system didn't crash i hit "refresh" so many times...

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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

To those waiting for speakers hang fast - it is worth it. I waited about 8 months I believe, but I was an annoying customer; I really wanted a ribbon tweeter in my SongTowers and waited for the new design to be created. I knew it was all worth it the day I took delivery of the first pair of ribbon SongTowers .

although i didn't wait as long as you, i did have an extended wait, and it didn't kill me (although i may have come close to expiring a few times along the way)...

as i noted in a previous post... someone is making something "from scratch" specifically for you... i know in todays "point, click and ship" world, you are used to instant gratification... if that's a key buying point, there are any number of speakers you can acquire...

however, if you want speakers that are made for you, you are gonna have to suck it up and deal with the delayed gratification...

fwiw, it's not like jim isn't upfront about wait times... and realistically, when you are a small business, there is the occasional delay that pops up that is beyond your control (in this example, a driver shortage)...

edit: the "you" being a prospective buyer, not nuance...
post #7107 of 8826
Relax guys you got it easy.... every last one of you...

I just ordered - lets say some addons for one of my other hobbies...

I'm going to be waiting for probably about a year before I get to bring them home.

I wrote the check, and its 2 months past now, Im pretty confident I won't see these items until next year... $2k worth of stuff, not waiting on them being built, just for the paperwork delays...

A few months is a piece of cake...
post #7108 of 8826
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Originally Posted by Monkish54 View Post

I've only been waiting 12 days for my speakers and this thread is making me even more antsy. Must stop reading!!! :Eek:

47 days is rough!! I'm sorry to hear it's been so long!

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Originally Posted by wyowolf View Post

47 days!!!!!!!!!!!!

much saddness...

JS said 30-45 days... I am hoping for sooner.

Jim quoted me 45 days. But I went with walnut veneer, which is has a deep grain that requires a bit of extra time to fill. Since each filling application takes 3 days of spraying, sanding and drying even a couple of extra layers can really add on the time. I understand there is art involved here, so I'm OK with waiting. I'd much rather Salk & co. take their time to do it right. My only (potential) regret thus far is whether or not I should have gone with the ebony veneer.
post #7109 of 8826
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkish54 View Post

I've only been waiting 12 days for my speakers and this thread is making me even more antsy. Must stop reading!!! :Eek:

47 days is rough!! I'm sorry to hear it's been so long!

I thought you ordered Philharmonic 2's?

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Originally Posted by wyowolf View Post

basically like the photo, except the boss wanted a little less red in the cherry I think...

I was torn on the upgrade... I wondered just how much of a difference there was... anyone have experience between the two versions?
and 700 was gonna push the price to nearly 3k total... getting dangerously close to high Spousal Disapproval Factor

The difference is apparent with jazz, classical, and vocal heavy music. If you're strictly a rocker you probably won't notice a difference. With that said, the RAAL is worth every penny to my ears (although I have the LCY ribbon, but have heard the RAAL numerous times). YMMV.
post #7110 of 8826
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Originally Posted by wyowolf View Post

basically like the photo, except the boss wanted a little less red in the cherry I think...

I was torn on the upgrade... I wondered just how much of a difference there was... anyone have experience between the two versions?
and 700 was gonna push the price to nearly 3k total... getting dangerously close to high Spousal Disapproval Factor

I was in the same situation as you. My thoughts were, "Sure the RAAL is better but is that something you'd really notice if you haven't heard them in an A/B?" I ended up going with not just supercharged SongTowers but a supercharged SongCenter as well because I know how I am. Based on past purchases I knew it'd nag at me if I didn't go with the upgraded version.

But still, I wonder if maybe I should have stuck with the standard version and paid for the veneer I really wanted (ebony). Because you grow accustomed to speakers, but a fine furniture finish is always nice to look at.
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