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post #8101 of 9127
Just got the ok from the boss ordering my Salk ST today.
post #8102 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

Just got the ok from the boss ordering my Salk ST today.


Congrats I have been through allot of speakers and so far these Song RT have been the best My matching center should be done anytime now cant wait
post #8103 of 9127
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

Just got the ok from the boss ordering my Salk ST today.

Congratulations! You have a pretty cool lady there. wink.gif
post #8104 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

Just got the ok from the boss ordering my Salk ST today.
Sweet! What finish are you going with?
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Sweet! What finish are you going with?
I wanted something different it will be maple with a pepper wood full length baffle
post #8106 of 9127
Congrats! You're going to love them. I hope the build time passes quickly for you.
post #8107 of 9127
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Congrats! You're going to love them. I hope the build time passes quickly for you.
Thanks I'm sure it won't I'm a impatient man
post #8108 of 9127
And if you weren't an impatient person waiting for a pair of fantastic speakers built just for you would make you one. The product meter makes it easier so you at least know how things are developing--a bit like a sonogram does with a baby :-)--but all the same time stands still until they're on your doorstep.

Don't forget to post pics when they arrive.
Edited by repete66211 - 2/7/13 at 10:10am
post #8109 of 9127
The waiting time is worst but well worth it. I have been in your shoes not one but two time.
Edited by audionuts - 2/7/13 at 9:04pm
post #8110 of 9127
Just became part of the salk family with some soundscapes floorstanding 7 speakers. Cannot believe how natural the male and female voices sound throuh these speakers. The music just seems to float in the air and the soundstage is amazing with not toe-in.

Just want to thank Jim Salk for his time and quick response to my emails and answering the phone when I called. To put it simple, he's a stand up guy and great to work with. It does not get much better then that. If you had any reservations on ordering speakers from him, don't .

I will try to post pictures later.

Michael
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Here are the pictures74/width/350/height/700

Hope this works I'm a computer idoit

Sorry for the background mess
post #8112 of 9127
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Originally Posted by aasen7 View Post

Just became part of the salk family with some soundscapes floorstanding 7 speakers. Cannot believe how natural the male and female voices sound throuh these speakers. The music just seems to float in the air and the soundstage is amazing with not toe-in.

Just want to thank Jim Salk for his time and quick response to my emails and answering the phone when I called. To put it simple, he's a stand up guy and great to work with. It does not get much better then that. If you had any reservations on ordering speakers from him, don't .

I will try to post pictures later.

Michael
Are these really soundscape 8's? I don't see a 7 on the salk site. What are the 2nd & 3rd pics?
post #8113 of 9127
To me, those look like floorstanding M7's with an additional woofer.
post #8114 of 9127
I believe they were the prototype M7's and Jim's personal pair, IIRC. The 7's can exist, but for the dough and fronts, 8's are the ticket.
post #8115 of 9127
Perhaps an explanation would be in order.

When we developed the SoundScape M7 monitor, we developed a floor standing version with dual 7" woofers. The design turned out nice, but it was expensive for a speaker that played down to an F3 of 45Hz. We then made the decision to develop the SoundScape 8's. They cost more, but the bass extends to an F3 around 25Hz, more in line with what you would expect in the speaker in this price range.

Since we never introduced the SoundScape 7's, I took them home and used them in my home theater which has a couple of large subwoofers that augment the bottom end. The 7's worked fabulous in that set-up.

When aasen7 asked if we could build a lower cost alternative to the SoundScape 8 for him, I sent him a picture of the prototype 7's and told him we could build a pair for him. Or, to save even more, he could have the original prototype pair. He chose the latter option.

So that's the story behind these speakers.

We have developed quite a few designs over the years that turned out nice but were never listed on our web site for one reason or another. This was simply one of those designs.

- Jim
post #8116 of 9127
Help!

I have been reviewing till my eyes are crossed..mostly reading some real auditioning.

I keep coming back to Salk. The only three negative comments i have EVER seen are:

1) SongTowers lack bass respone.
2) SongTowers although more precise than speaker X just does not have the full sound I am looking for.
3) Cost (Seems the HT3 are 6k new? If so I am really getting outside my range. about 5k is top top top of my line...and that will destroy me to be honest as I cant get subs or center or anything else in that range.)


So now I have returned back to Salk. I looked at the Dream Scapes...but with a center I think they are out of my ballpark. (correct me if I am wrong). Then I started looking at the HT2, HT2-TL and HT3. HT3 look...NICE, but not sure I need to go up that high if I plan to use Subs? Especially dual subs like VTF-3 MK4 Dual Drive Package or even the ULS-15 DualDrive Package.

Even though I plan to go with some heavy hitting subs...bass response of the speaker itself is important...upper bass and mid range...critical. When I hear a Cymbal crash...I want to physically experience that crash. I don't really mention upper end because ...well...we are talking Salk. The only thing to potentially be worried about is that the sound is too detailed for someones personal preferance.

So...research..research and more research..

Can you guys give me some insight between the HT2, HT2-TL the HT3 and the SS Monitor with considerations towards a matching center.

I did read this a min ago though from a review of the SS8: Hey HT2, you suck! You “told” me bass was room filling and “boomy.” You never scared the bejeebers out of me at 4:36 of Regina Spector’s Field Below like the SS8’s just did.

If the SS is that much better...should I go for the SSM? How does the SELAH AUDIO Tempesta compare to the SS Monitor? Seems the componets are mostly the same?
Edited by Newbie01 - 2/10/13 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by Newbie01 View Post

Help!

I have been reviewing till my eyes are crossed..mostly reading some real auditioning.

I keep coming back to Salk. The only three negative comments i have EVER seen are:

1) SongTowers lack bass respone.
2) SongTowers although more precise than speaker X just does not have the full sound I am looking for.
3) Cost (Seems the HT3 are 6k new? If so I am really getting outside my range. about 5k is top top top of my line...and that will destroy me to be honest as I cant get subs or center or anything else in that range.)

If you are planning to run subs, the SongTowers would be perfectly fine down to a crossover of 80Hz or 60Hz. It's really only if you plan to use them full range that the bass may come up short.
post #8118 of 9127
I dont feel the song tower lack bass music wise , I only turn my Sub on for movies .

As for detail Im real happy here is a video " excuse the bird "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWT6D8vD0s
Edited by a1usedcomp - 2/10/13 at 10:47am
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Thanks DMSDMS...

So Super SongTowers? HT2-TL? Selah Tempasta which appears to be a semi "knock off" of the SS Montors (just saying the componets are the same is all).
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Originally Posted by Newbie01 View Post

Thanks DMSDMS...

So Super SongTowers? HT2-TL? Selah Tempasta which appears to be a semi "knock off" of the SS Montors (just saying the componets are the same is all).

If your budget is $5k and you are planning to get LCR and subs within that budget, a nice setup would be regular SongTowers/SongCenter. That should be a fantastic setup and leaves you with enough money to not have to skimp on the subs. You can also e-mail Jim Salk (contact info on the webpage) and he can recommend a setup for you based on your needs and budget.
post #8121 of 9127
Thanks for the explanation Jim. The speakers I believe are easier to drive then the SS 8's. Right now I'm using the marantz PA 8004 integrated amp and has not trbl pushing these speakers too loud levels. Maybe when I replenish my funds , might buy a good sealed sub to get the lower notes. I have a outlaw LFM-1 ex sub now.

Could be awhile, my daughter is going to college next yr eek.gif.

Phil the 2nd picture is the inside of the top section of the speaker. I took the polyfill out to take the picture. That isthe backof the raal tweeter and accuton midrange You can have the back section open or closed depending on what grill u put there. The 3rd picture is the speaker lying on its side when I put the floor spikes on. You can see the binding post and the back ports for the woofers.

Sorry for the bad pictures
Edited by aasen7 - 2/10/13 at 11:20am
post #8122 of 9127
Ok...I see the suggestions going towards ST and ST Center. (right?)

I was a little worreid about ST due to some of the comments especially concerning the center..but just in general.

Now I have been reading for about 4 hours...time to stop...but the Phil 3's and the Selah have me a tad confused.

Seems that Phil pretty much HT3 but are uglier? From reading it seems Phil ignores what a speaker looks like and just goes for sound ...and ease of construction of his cabinets. That lowers his price allot compared to the ST etc? At least that is what I get out of it...

I have heard no real response on the Selah compared to the SS monitor. I doubt given cost / build quality it will be apples to applies but since the componets are the same ..and we are talking moniotrs...I should be able to get 90%+ the same sound as the SS monitors for much less?

Again...just correct me if I go off path. With the ST I should go for the Ribbon upgrade right?
post #8123 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Newbie01 View Post

Ok...I see the suggestions going towards ST and ST Center. (right?)

I was a little worreid about ST due to some of the comments especially concerning the center..but just in general.

Now I have been reading for about 4 hours...time to stop...but the Phil 3's and the Selah have me a tad confused.

Seems that Phil pretty much HT3 but are uglier? From reading it seems Phil ignores what a speaker looks like and just goes for sound ...and ease of construction of his cabinets. That lowers his price allot compared to the ST etc? At least that is what I get out of it...
There are people who like the looks of it, so this is going to be personal. The phil arent any easier to built, not sure where you get that from.

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I have heard no real response on the Selah compared to the SS monitor. I doubt given cost / build quality it will be apples to applies but since the componets are the same ..and we are talking moniotrs...I should be able to get 90%+ the same sound as the SS monitors for much less?
Again...just correct me if I go off path. With the ST I should go for the Ribbon upgrade right?

The compnents are not the same, nothing between the selah tempesta and SS7 are identical except the brands employed on the midrange driver and tweeter.
You will likely not hear the two since there isnt alot of people who onws both. Although both are three way, the desing are a slight different, different xover points. The tempesta employ scanspeak best7 inch drive which is more appropriate for it applicaton
Edited by RicardoJoa - 2/10/13 at 12:22pm
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philharmonic audio is suppose to be offering some towers in the next couple months
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for people in the Chicago area, Salk will be at http://www.axpona.com/default.asp Mar 8-10.
post #8126 of 9127
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Originally Posted by RicardoJoa View Post

There are people who like the looks of it, so this is going to be personal. The phil arent any easier to built, not sure where you get that from.

Componets are not the same..nothing between the selah tempest and SS7 are identical except mid range and tweeter.

Easier is probably not the best term. I paraphrased a thread where Phil auctually address the competition or lack thereof between Salk and him.

He said his cabinet design is more straight forward and simple (again paraphrasing) whereas the Salks go for highend finishes etc...a different market.


As far as Selah Tempest... Ok..I know cross over is HUGE...but isnt a large part of what makes a speaker the drivers...I thought that was 70 percent of it?
post #8127 of 9127
Unless I missed something, I think it's Dennis...
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Unless I missed something, I think it's Dennis...[/quote

Call me Phil, call me Dennis, just don't call me on my cell phone--I never answer. As for cabinet complexity between the Philharmonics and the Salks--it's more a matter of fit and finish. Jim puts hours and hours into the finishing process. That's why his speakers look like solid wood rather than veneer. They are fine furniture. I don't try to match that standard. That's the only reason I started Philharmonic--to to fill a possible market gap for audiophiles who were less concerned about furniture-grade cabinets than rock-bottom prices.
post #8129 of 9127
Doh! Nothing like mis-quoting someone. Sorry about that. I probably should have just gave the link and spent the 30 seconds to re-read the link so I referred to the right person...

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/loudspeakers/75266-philharmonic-audio-3-way-open-back-ml-tqwts-designed-dennis-murphy.html

Thanks Dennis for clarifying and not taking offense. biggrin.gif
Edited by Newbie01 - 2/10/13 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by Newbie01 View Post

Easier is probably not the best term. I paraphrased a thread where Phil auctually address the competition or lack thereof between Salk and him.

He said his cabinet design is more straight forward and simple (again paraphrasing) whereas the Salks go for highend finishes etc...a different market.


As far as Selah Tempest... Ok..I know cross over is HUGE...but isnt a large part of what makes a speaker the drivers...I thought that was 70 percent of it?

That would be better to say that the overall desing/cabinet and drivers makes the whole speaker.
As far as the tempesta and the SS7, there is a thread about it including the vapor audio, i think that would be a better place forscussion about them.
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