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post #8491 of 9127
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Originally Posted by nyaudio98 View Post

Any feedback on the silk

These are new speakers so you won't find much written about them yet (other than posts from the audio shows where they were previewed).

The first production pair recently shipped and the owner posted some comments today. Here is a link...

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=115653.0

- Jim
post #8492 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Jdgate View Post

So...... I had planned on buying a songtower, song center, and 2 sets of song surround 1 (100 a set up charge to make them wall mountable). Now after listening to some HT2-TL's I am wanting to upgrade to the Supercharged Songtowers with the Supercharged SongCenter. The problem is my budget will not allow it (without the wife throwing me out of the house). I am thinking I could swing the Supercharged if I went basic (non Salk) on my surrounds and started out as a 5.1 and purchased a few more speakers later to get 7.1. I saw that Dennis Murphey and others have recommended the NHT Superzeros with the Salk's for a home theater setup. Are there any other speakers I should look at in this price range (superzeros are currently $99 a speaker) or a little more expensive. The surround speaker must be wall mountable.

I figured other Salk owners have probably experienced this conundrum, so where better to ask than here.

I have the supercharged ST and love them. If you like them that much, I'd suggest even just starting at 3.1 and then slowly upgrading with Song surrounds 1s incrementally to 5.1, then 7.1 as budget allows.
post #8493 of 9127
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Originally Posted by jsalk View Post

These are new speakers so you won't find much written about them yet (other than posts from the audio shows where they were previewed).

The first production pair recently shipped and the owner posted some comments today. Here is a link...

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=115653.0

- Jim

Do we have any measurments, Jim? Preferably on-axis and 50 degrees off-axis?

Hope business is booming. smile.gif
post #8494 of 9127
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

I have the supercharged ST and love them. If you like them that much, I'd suggest even just starting at 3.1 and then slowly upgrading with Song surrounds 1s incrementally to 5.1, then 7.1 as budget allows.

Yeah..dont skimp on your L/C/R... Can always get better surrounds. I highly recommend HTM-200 SE HOME THEATER MONITOR ... they are small..sealed and wall mountable.

325 delivered. There are allot of others out there as well...but if you have to skimp...surrounds are a good place.
post #8495 of 9127
Originally I wanted to go with all of the same speaker brand including surrounds but I realized that I should (or want to) sink the majority of my money in the upgraded LCR speakers. I can always upgrade surrounds later but the Salk's would probably be a one time purchase that is going to need to last me. If it makes any difference my room is roughly 27x18. I will have two rows of seats oriented lengthwise, so the rear speakers (in a 7.1 setup) would be placed at the 27ft mark with the first row of seats at the 12ft mark from the front screen (yes they have to be wall mounted, no stands to meet the WAF)
post #8496 of 9127
Well...on wall mounts do they need to be:

1) http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Satellite-Speaker-Brackets-Ceilings/dp/B002WN1GOW/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1365210521&sr=1-6

or can they be:

2) http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Clamping-Mounting-Surrounding-MS56B/dp/B000X9O8SI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1LJDOQRQK6OBO&coliid=I28PLD5J8RECHO

And to be fair to Jim and this Thread... Lets take the rest to PM or you can start another thread...

This is supposed to be about Jim's speakers (Sorry Jim). Go SCST?!
post #8497 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Newbie01 View Post

Yeah..dont skimp on your L/C/R... Can always get better surrounds. I highly recommend HTM-200 SE HOME THEATER MONITOR ... they are small..sealed and wall mountable.

325 delivered. There are allot of others out there as well...but if you have to skimp...surrounds are a good place.

This is exactly what I did. I had a complete Ascend system including 3 HTM-200's before upgrading to my Salk's. To save a few bucks and to be able to afford exactly what I wanted I had Jim build me a HT2-TL/HTC L/C/R but kept the HTM-200's. This worked out quite well.

Then, the following year when had saved up enough $$ I had Jim built me a set of SongSurround I's to replace the HTM-200's. The HTM-200's are good little speakers for the money (although the SongSurrounds blow them away) and pretty easy to wall mount because of their small size/weight. I used a cheap plastic mount similar to the ones in Newbie01's first link. They held the HTM's up but that was about it. I wouldn't use them for any heavier speaker or for that matter a more expensive speaker.

For the SongSurround mounts I used the ones in Newbie01's second link. These are very solid steel mounts and quite beefy to easily support the weight of the SongSurrounds. I had Jim build in a 1/4-20NC thread insert into the base of each of the SongSurrounds and used a SHCS through a clearance hole I drilled in the base of mounts to insure the speakers would never slide off. Peace of mind. Personally, I wouldn't trust them just squeezing the SongSurrounds with the side plates, especially if you have the mount angled down like I do.

If you go this direction you might want to check with Jim to make sure he can match the veneer you choose at a later date. Also, I would go with the mount I was going to use from the get go so you only have to buy one set and install them one time.
post #8498 of 9127
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How much longer
post #8499 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

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How much longer

Not much. When my SCST got to that point it seemed that shortly I was tracking the package.
post #8500 of 9127
Thank you for the link to review of silk
post #8501 of 9127
Your very close , when mine got to this point it was a 1 day deal but I'm sure it also depends on Jims work load , either way you will be enjoying it soon biggrin.gif
post #8502 of 9127
Anyone have pics of the SCST's in bamboo, with satin black dye? I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't seem to find any pics, besides 'Ascend', which I'm sure look close.

I was VERY close in submitting an order for Ascend Towers, but I can't seem to get a response from them via email. Just not a company I want to deal with if I'm have questions or have any CS issues.
Edited by Cvetan1 - 4/9/13 at 4:10am
post #8503 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

Anyone have pics of the SCST's in bamboo, with satin black dye?
I don't know if I've seen a black bamboo cabinet but here's a picture of a satin black MDF SongTower. Some of the threads on the Salk page may have what you're looking for. If not you can always email Jim (if you haven't already). Rest assured, the Salk cabinets really are about as nice as a speaker can get looks-wise.
post #8504 of 9127
I'm quite positive that his work is top notch, I'd just like a pic to drool over for time being! wink.gif I think my heart is set on getting the satin black bamboo SCST's... Just waiting on the word from Jim, whether I should front or rear port in my setup, or if it makes a difference?

Btw- Thanks for the pic, those do look nice!
post #8505 of 9127
Lol! I was THIS close to placing my order and find out you can get the W16 woofer, instead of the W15 on the SCST. Anyone on here compare them, side by side, or is there a significant difference between the two?
post #8506 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

Anyone have pics of the SCST's in bamboo, with satin black dye? I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't seem to find any pics, besides 'Ascend', which I'm sure look close.

I was VERY close in submitting an order for Ascend Towers, but I can't seem to get a response from them via email. Just not a company I want to deal with if I'm have questions or have any CS issues.

Cvetan1,

I sincerely apologize if you found the timing of my email responses not to your satisfaction. I received your initial email reply only yesterday and responded to it over an hour ago (less than 24 hours later). Unfortunately, I am personally not capable of better timing as I am handling your questions directly and my days are swamped. Please keep in mind that our phone line is manned 10 hours per day and while I know it is old fashioned, if your questions are urgent, I encourage you to simply call. I can also allow another member of our staff to handle the email correspondence and it would then have faster replies. Still, I am surprised by your post; I answered your reply within 24 hours -- unless you did not receive it which is certainly a possibility as email is definitely not 100% reliable...

Regardless, Salk makes a fine product as well and if we have lost your business because we could not meet your requirements with regard to email timing, better that it goes to Jim then to another competitor smile.gif
post #8507 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Pat315 View Post

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How much longer

Is this what you are waiting for?



Hot off the assembly bench. Will test tomorrow and get things packed for shipping on Thursday.

- Jim
post #8508 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Ascend View Post

Cvetan1,

I sincerely apologize if you found the timing of my email responses not to your satisfaction. I received your initial email reply only yesterday and responded to it over an hour ago (less than 24 hours later). Unfortunately, I am personally not capable of better timing as I am handling your questions directly and my days are swamped. Please keep in mind that our phone line is manned 10 hours per day and while I know it is old fashioned, if your questions are urgent, I encourage you to simply call. I can also allow another member of our staff to handle the email correspondence and it would then have faster replies. Still, I am surprised by your post; I answered your reply within 24 hours -- unless you did not receive it which is certainly a possibility as email is definitely not 100% reliable...

Regardless, Salk makes a fine product as well and if we have lost your business because we could not meet your requirements with regard to email timing, better that it goes to Jim then to another competitor smile.gif

Hello Dave!

Yes, timing is everything! You snooze, you lose... right? I apologize if my post offended you, but that wasn't my intent. It was actually the decision that pushed me over the fence, more than anything else. Also, I have asked questions in the past and did not get a response for days later.

Responding to emails is VERY important to me, especially with ID companies. I happen to work overseas a LOT, and can not make phone calls sometimes. When a company can respond back to my emails in a timely fashion, some within a matter of minutes, I would rather do business with them.

Respectfully,

Mike
post #8509 of 9127
Well, I went ahead and finally ordered! Satin black Supercharged ST's w/ W16 drivers, 1" MDF instead of bamboo. I think I should be happy? smile.gif
post #8510 of 9127
It looks great Jim can't wait to get them.

Thanks pat
post #8511 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

Well, I went ahead and finally ordered! Satin black Supercharged ST's w/ W16 drivers, 1" MDF instead of bamboo. I think I should be happy? smile.gif

Why the W16 drivers?
post #8512 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

Lol! I was THIS close to placing my order and find out you can get the W16 woofer, instead of the W15 on the SCST. Anyone on here compare them, side by side, or is there a significant difference between the two?

Every time I think I'm ready to order, I read about another available option! I'm interested in the difference (both sound, and price) myself.
post #8513 of 9127
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post

Why the W16 drivers?

Plays deeper and should not strain as much as the smaller W15's at louder listening levels. However, with that said, the cabinet will also be deeper. 2" more. It's kinda like having an in-between SCST and an HT2- TL.
post #8514 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Cvetan1 View Post

Plays deeper and should not strain as much as the smaller W15's at louder listening levels. However, with that said, the cabinet will also be deeper. 2" more. It's kinda like having an in-between SCST and an HT2- TL.

Cool. Whats the SPL difference between the normal SCST vs the W16 SCST?
post #8515 of 9127
Jim would have to answer that one...
post #8516 of 9127
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post

Cool. Whats the SPL difference between the normal SCST vs the W16 SCST?

The 5" W15's and 6" W16's are quite similar in terms of performance parameters. The difference is the cone size. The W16's will be capable of moving more air down low so the bass will seem to have a little more weight and heft. The W16's frame size is the same as the W15's. So the width of the cabinet can be the same 8". The performance in the bass region will sit about half way between the Supercharged SongTowers and the Veracity HT2-TL's with their 7" W18's. Other than that, there is no significant performance difference.

- Jim
post #8517 of 9127
^ Thanks Jim!
post #8518 of 9127
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Originally Posted by jsalk View Post

The 5" W15's and 6" W16's are quite similar in terms of performance parameters. The difference is the cone size. The W16's will be capable of moving more air down low so the bass will seem to have a little more weight and heft. The W16's frame size is the same as the W15's. So the width of the cabinet can be the same 8". The performance in the bass region will sit about half way between the Supercharged SongTowers and the Veracity HT2-TL's with their 7" W18's. Other than that, there is no significant performance difference.

- Jim
I didn't have a regular SCST for comparison, but I was certainly impressed with the performance of the W16. It's usually found in small, premium priced monitors (Like the $7,000 Joseph Audio Pulsar), so I wasn't expecting much in the deep bass department. But when I finished the crossover and ran some test tones, it was literally shaking the room at 32 Hz. Lots of reach and power handling. Of course, they cost something between $$$$$$$$$$ and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
post #8519 of 9127
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

I didn't have a regular SCST for comparison, but I was certainly impressed with the performance of the W16. It's usually found in small, premium priced monitors (Like the $7,000 Joseph Audio Pulsar), so I wasn't expecting much in the deep bass department. But when I finished the crossover and ran some test tones, it was literally shaking the room at 32 Hz. Lots of reach and power handling. Of course, they cost something between $$$$$$$$$$ and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

So, upgrading all four drivers won't be an inexpensive upgrade, I'm assuming.
post #8520 of 9127
The crossovers are different and the cabinet is 2" deeper than the regular SCST. Its not terribly expensive, but I think the extra oomph will be worth taking up a little more floor real estate.
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