SSP & Pre/Pros that support HDMI Audio MPCM - Page 12

If you don't need video processing the Cary Cinema 11a is not very tall. It has 1 hdmi output that is pass through. Of course that is if it ever comes out

if that turns out to be true it will be very good news for anthem owners indeed. additionally I think that would be a very big wrap for anthem too as would be the only av pre-pro manufactuer who I know off that would have come through on updating their legacy unit to bring upto the standards fo the new gen pre-pros. would say a lot for their customer support and do wonders in building loyalty

Well that is not true. Halcro did it before everyone. Also, many of the higher end names which Anthem would say they compete with, have yet to even release a 1.3 option. Sony, Denon, the mass producers very rarely provide upgrades for any of their gear.
When you buy Anthem gear, is there a pill people must take when they buy it...

sorry yetis but I do not believe as yet that halcro has provided an "upgrade to support HDMI 1.3a and provide on-board HDM decoders" as eric carroll has posted that anthem is posted to shortly provide. I do not believe any manufactuer has provided a hdmi v1.3 and HDM decoders on board as an upgrade to any of their older legacy products.

If you have a look at erics list at the start of this thread you will see there are only 3 av pre-pros with HBR decoders for HDM decoding capability


the halcro's you will see are listed only under the av pre-pros with MPCM capability.


as they do not have any HBR decoders for any HDM decoding capability

Wow. I would be very impressed if this really happens.

Ultimately there will be a D3 and an upgrade path for all Anthem users. The question is will the upgrade cost eclipse the cost of an otherwise new unit. The metrics on this are somewhat subjective, but I know plenty of people who have had the opportunity to "upgrade" and didn't for cost reasons.

The link to a thread to a rumor I don't consider a company statement at this point. Am I bitter that I sold my Anthem at a deep discount because it lacked modern features. Absolutely not. It's unfortunate on the rare occasions when video worked properly it was absolutely stunning, but the lack of stability and the lack of features made me move.

Back to the point of this thread, it would be good to have a verifiable source before getting too outlandish on feature claims. That said I hope Anthem hits a home run when they step up to the plate.

I hear ya. It was the old I heard someone whisper on one side of the continent and Anthem had an upgrade by the time it got passed on to the other side.

I know this grapevine.

(Apologies to Johnny Dangerously.)

Hi all,

Bryston is now working on it's SP3 that will feature HDMI 1.3 in/out (4-2) and new HD audio codecs as well.
The analog part will feature 7.1 in/out on RCA or XLR and the analog 2ch (that is quite wonderful on this product) will stay unchanged.
The SP2 "should" be upgradable to a SP3, they're still working on it and if not possible they will put an exchange program on.

The people at Bryston are targeting a price of 6000$ for this all new HD processor (but it could change, at the end !).
You can visit audiocircle.com for more informations.

How often does Onkyo/Integra change models ?

When was Integra DTC 9.8 and Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P introduced ?
Do you think there will there be any new models introduced at CEDIA ?

good to see manufactuers like bryston looking to join the pack with new gen pre-pros

Discussion of 885P follow-on model & associated link here.

I pick the blue pill!

IF Eric Caroll post is true, Anthem will beat them again being the first high-end Pre-pro to market with these features.

Knowing Bryston development cycle, the SP3.0 will probably not be available before mars 2009.

With all of the problems people had with their D2's, is first really the most desirable position to be in? Especially with Anthem's track record?

Not saying they won't get it right, I'm just saying they didn't get it right at first when the product (D2) first shipped...

The issue with Anthem is that they are too open at sharing their beta and alpha software releases to anybody who ask for them. These software are obviously not fully tested and could create issues and they did. Peoples should stick with official release if they do not want to risk an unstable system.

So when you go on a forum and see all these peoples talking about un-stability what are they using?

A go example of this; two weeks ago they release an alpha version 1.32c with a new HDMI driver that was unstable with some source. Now if go on the D2 Thread the day version 1.32c was release lots peoples complaint about 1.32c. The reality is that most of these peoples should have stick to the official release (1.33) with the exception of the beta testing team.

Most of the other vendors prefer to fully control their software releases. Try to get a beta software from DVDO by example, unless you are officially part of the beta tester group you will not get anything. Some manufacturer even asks you to sign NDA to ensure you will not openly disclose their issues publicly when you try their Alpha and Beta software release.

The Anthem way of handling beta releases open the door for more openness will all know about the issues the D2. Do you think you get the same transparency from other vendors?

There is always a bit or risk involved when you are the first jumping in the pool. You could decide to stay on the sideline for months/years while others enjoyed their product.

Sure but I do find it impressive that they were able to add on a really competent multichannel, multiposition room EQ without any hardware changes.

With respect, I wouldn't tag Eric is the source. He just posted a second I heard another guy say X post and bupkas from Anthem at this point. Two people saying somebody else said something is not product life cycle intent by the vendor and at best is corroborated 2nd hand vaporware.

The product cycle for Room EQ took ~ a year after it was really announced and required multiple firmware upgrades.

Eric, not a slam but you see how your link became "your" posting of information. Now I'm going to link to Tolstoi saying you said saying three other folks said and now we are up to 5. (You get the point, I know you do NOT make things up, or post based on no sources. At internet facebook pairwise connectivity rates there could be millions of D2+ rumors before anything surfaces. Sometimes hoping for something, particularly something that Anthem officially denied (1.3 on the D2), is... hope, regardless of how much folks hope it is right.

Being that I had a Sherword pre-amp that required a trip back to get the eq upgrade, I can see that being of value.

I'm not sure I find value in EQ though. I suppose it suits people who are trying to integrate into multi-role rooms?