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post #10351 of 23784
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Originally Posted by DICKEYBIRD View Post

Hmmm, I'll find out for sure this weekend. You're probably right.

I moved it down from the attic/boneyard to my workshop last night; next it goes in the house for 24 hrs. to finish letting all the magic stuff acclimatize to it's new cool/dry environment before plugging it in to see if it'll work. I live in the south and the heat & humidity is terrible this time of year.


Another thing is that these older Philips/Magnavoxes encode/decode what is coming through their inputs, so be sure to set the the recording quality to its highest setting on the 75 (even though you're not recording with it.)


Jim
post #10352 of 23784
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Originally Posted by Colloquor View Post

Newegg has a special on the Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive through July 14. With the promo code on the page, the price is $39.99. Good deal... and, free shipping too!

back on sale one day left..

ok im thinking about getting one of these for a replacement drive on my Mag.
so any reports of any failures after running these for a time. or any thing or are they just about as good as OEM for a replacement?

should i just bit bullet and hope for the best?

new at this replacement harddrive thing.. so
dont know really what questions to ask..

thanks for your time folks..

chris
post #10353 of 23784
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colloquor View Post

Newegg has a special on the Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive through July 14. With the promo code on the page, the price is $39.99. Good deal... and, free shipping too!

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Originally Posted by Scuzzo View Post

back on sale one day left..

ok im thinking about getting one of these for a replacement drive on my Mag.
so any reports of any failures after running these for a time. or any thing or are they just about as good as OEM for a replacement?

should i just bit bullet and hope for the best?

new at this replacement harddrive thing.. so
dont know really what questions to ask..

thanks for your time folks..

WD5000AADS at NewEgg... seems like a good SATA upgrade choice for your 2160A. Normally $55 at NewEgg so $40 is a great price. Power specs are great.

Two Pioneers used a PATA version, AAKB. One was Auskck who installed his in a 3575 on 3/25/09. Another was Noend7 who installed on a 3575 on 2/12/10. No reports of problems with those PATA versions.
post #10354 of 23784
Hi all,

Before seeing the compatibility chart here, I installed two new harddrives in my 2160As. They are HITACHI HDS721050CLA362. Will these units do any harm to my maggies? I installed them a couple of weeks ago. They seem to be working fine so far.

Rusty
post #10355 of 23784
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tuffkatt View Post

Hi all,

Before seeing the compatibility chart here, I installed two new harddrives in my 2160As. They are HITACHI HDS721050CLA362. Will these units do any harm to my maggies? I installed them a couple of weeks ago. They seem to be working fine so far.

Two of our upgrade Pioneers recently used that same drive... #17 and #18 here.

They seem to be fine for use... relatively low power reqmts.
post #10356 of 23784
I've had the new Mag 513 for about 3 weeks and have been quite happy with the unit but I do have two issues I'd like to discuss:

My digital signal goes from the wall to my cable box, to the Mag and then to my TV. I pretty much use the cable box DVR for scheduled / timed recordings and then switch on the Mag to record to the Mag HD from the DVR.

1st: When I hit the video button on the my TV remote to see the Mag's signal the picture becomes brighter and the contrast spikes. Has any else experienced this and is there a reason why this may be happening?

2nd: A few days ago I began experiencing a grinding / chattering noise which seems to be the cooling fan in the rear of the unit. Sounds like a bad bearing. The unit still is under warrantee so a replacement would be no problem I would just have to copy all the HD content onto DVD disks first. Has anyone experienced this and decided to put in a better fan?

Thanks in advance for your help.

best

JMD
post #10357 of 23784
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JMDFLA View Post

I’ve had the new Mag 513 for about 3 weeks and have been quite happy with the unit but I do have two issues I’d like to discuss:

My digital signal goes from the wall to my cable box, to the Mag and then to my TV. I pretty much use the cable box DVR for scheduled / timed recordings and then switch on the Mag to record to the Mag HD from the DVR.

1st: When I hit the video button on the my TV remote to see the Mag’s signal the picture becomes brighter and the contrast spikes. Has any else experienced this and is there a reason why this may be happening?

The Mag should ne either 1st on the coax, as shown in Sketch 3 here, or on one leg of a splitter.

Then you should do an Auto Channel Preset > Cable (Analog/Digital) as described here.

Those alone might eliminate the bright/contrast problem. If not, check back here.

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Originally Posted by JMDFLA View Post

2nd: A few days ago I began experiencing a grinding / chattering noise which seems to be the cooling fan in the rear of the unit. Sounds like a bad bearing. The unit still is under warrantee so a replacement would be no problem I would just have to copy all the HD content onto DVD disks first. Has anyone experienced this and decided to put in a better fan?

Here's a help file on noisy fans.

See if anything there helps. If not, you just might need a replacement.
post #10358 of 23784
JMDFLA has said he's feeding his cable box into the 513 so he can record from it.

Shouldn't be any problem doing that, whether the cable box is feeding out on channel 3 or 4 or thru audio/video inputs.
post #10359 of 23784
I'm feeding my 3575 with the Svideo output of my 3400 Motorola box while it happily feeds my TV with HD goodness from the HDMI out.
Of course I also have the RCA analog audio outs feeding it as well, the few open QAM channels they still let out I record directly with the Philip's tuner.
post #10360 of 23784
Wajo..thanks for the response regarding the fan and the related link.

The fan noise was more than a harmonic type of sound. It was more of a contact tap, tap, taping sound.

After some examination it turns out the noise was coming from the fan, not because it was failing but because it had come loose.

The rear cooling fan on Mag 513 sits inside a fan guard / enclosure which attaches outside the rear of the unit. This enclosure is held in place at the left corners by two screws in the top and bottom left and by two offset tabs along the right side.

After gingerly removing the fan guard I found that the fan was not secured within this enclosure. The fan had come loose which caused it to vibrate which in turn caused the blades to make occasional minor contact.

By fitting the fan properly against the back of the unit, then gingerly reattaching the fan guard around it and tightening the screws to mild snug fit has solved the problem.

Best
JMD
post #10361 of 23784
Just upgraded Magnavox 2160A to 500 GB Samsung SATA HDD
post #10362 of 23784
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tired2002 View Post

Just upgraded Magnavox 2160A to 500 GB Samsung SATA HDD

Congrats!

Could you Edit your post to add a little more info, esp. full name and Model # of drive. It could help someone else check the specs if they see the same drive for a good price?
post #10363 of 23784
Hello, does anyone know if the GE RM24912 universal remote will work for the Philips 3575H, and what code to use? It's a very basic remote, but I already have it, and my original remote is starting to die (so far the info button and rewind have stopped working, and I think the "next chapter" button is going next).

Thanks,
Magenta Orchid
post #10364 of 23784
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Originally Posted by Magenta Orchid View Post

Hello, does anyone know if the GE RM24912 universal remote will work for the Philips 3575H, and what code to use? It's a very basic remote, but I already have it, and my original remote is starting to die (so far the info button and rewind have stopped working, and I think the "next chapter" button is going next).

Thanks,
Magenta Orchid

I can't help you with the codes, but why don't you open the original remote and clean the button's contactors with cotton swab and alcohol?
post #10365 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

WD5000AADS at NewEgg... seems like a good SATA upgrade choice for your 2160A. Normally $55 at NewEgg so $40 is a great price. Power specs are great.

Two Pioneers used a PATA version, AAKB. One was Auskck who installed his in a 3575 on 3/25/09. Another was Noend7 who installed on a 3575 on 2/12/10. No reports of problems with those PATA versions.

deed done..
ordered yesterday.. is there a way to transfer vids from one HD to another?
or is that 160gb HDD.. pretty much a paper weight now.. no reusable?

thanks for the cool thread with all the advice..
just need to get one of them Pozidrive bits now..

always something
peace..
post #10366 of 23784
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Scuzzo View Post

deed done..
ordered yesterday.. is there a way to transfer vids from one HD to another?
or is that 160gb HDD.. pretty much a paper weight now.. no reusable?

Only known way to get recorded titles off old drive is to dub to DVDs, then watch on DVD or on computer or dub back to new HDD?

That 160GB can now be a 2nd drive if you decide to go external like Auskck, or save as a spare for the 2160A, or use in a Mag 2080 if you need another "cheaper" HDD recorder someday, or use as an extra drive on your computer, or ... ?
post #10367 of 23784
Has any, as yet, figured out a way to get a foothold on modding the firmware to these units?

I keep hoping for a glimmer of hope that I can mod my 3576 so the USB port acts like a DVD drive. Using it just for music and pictures blows, when it would be awesome if it could play video files too.
post #10368 of 23784
Here is where to buy a set of 10 bits for 3.99, including Pozidrive #2:

http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piec...set-98902.html
post #10369 of 23784
I'm upgrading my 2160A with a seagate 500gig. Is there away I can copy what is saved on the 160gig to the new 500gig HD?
Henry
post #10370 of 23784
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Originally Posted by henryj7 View Post

I'm upgrading my 2160A with a seagate 500gig. Is there away I can copy what is saved on the 160gig to the new 500gig HD?
Henry

Of course there is.
First you install the new HDD, format etc.
Then, you take the tho HDDs, hook them up to a computer and transfer the data.
post #10371 of 23784
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Originally Posted by henryj7 View Post

I'm upgrading my 2160A with a seagate 500gig. Is there away I can copy what is saved on the 160gig to the new 500gig HD?
Henry

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Originally Posted by marginal39 View Post

Of course there is.
First you install the new HDD, format etc.
Then, you take the tho HDDs, hook them up to a computer and transfer the data.

Kinda pointless to try that, because all you wind up with is a 500GB drive that has 160GB of usable capacity.

Check with Search and you will find the sad tale of those who have attempted to save their recordings by cloning their 160 to 500 and being distraught at discovering all they have is an expensive 160.

Pick whatever suits you best.

a) Watch what's on the 160, install the 500, format, and enjoy the capacity boost.

b) Burn DVDs of what's on the 160, install the 500, format, and enjoy the capacity boost.

c) Clone the 160, watch what's on the 160/500 and when it is empty, format and reap the benefits.

Step c) involves the computer, a) and b) are recorder-only solutions.
post #10372 of 23784
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Originally Posted by sydyen View Post

and you will find the sad tale of those who have attempted to save their recordings by cloning their 160 to 500

Who's talking about cloning anyway?
post #10373 of 23784
Quote:
Originally Posted by marginal39 View Post

Who's talking about cloning anyway?

You did sorta.

Quote:
Originally Posted by marginal39 View Post

Of course there is.
First you install the new HDD, format etc.
Then, you take the tho HDDs, hook them up to a computer and transfer the data.

Have you done this for the 2160A?
post #10374 of 23784
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Originally Posted by Magenta Orchid View Post

Hello, does anyone know if the GE RM24912 universal remote will work for the Philips 3575H, and what code to use? It's a very basic remote, but I already have it, and my original remote is starting to die (so far the info button and rewind have stopped working, and I think the "next chapter" button is going next).

Thanks,
Magenta Orchid

Quote:
Originally Posted by marginal39 View Post

I can't help you with the codes, but why don't you open the original remote and clean the button's contactors with cotton swab and alcohol?

That sounds like a good idea, I'll try that thanks!

Magenta Orchid
post #10375 of 23784
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magenta Orchid View Post

That sounds like a good idea, I'll try that thanks!

If you decide you need one, Universal remotes are discussed in this help file.

And here are two sources for a new replacement remote:

$17.50 Remote NB526UD from Philips... $13.95 Remote on Ebay
post #10376 of 23784
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Originally Posted by timtofly View Post

You did sorta.

I was talking about copying the files, not cloning ..

Have you done this for the 2160A?

I haven't.
post #10377 of 23784
Quote:
Originally Posted by marginal39 View Post

Who's talking about cloning anyway?

You are.

You have little, if any, knowledge of the recorder's internals and do not realize there is no distinction between the copy, image, or clone of a Funai drive.

Use Search to educate yourself.

You will discover that nobody has ever figured out the operating system or the file structure of the Funai disk. Without that kind of knowledge it is impossible to COPY the data content and MODIFY the file structure to correlate recording capacity to the raw drive capacity.

What you can do is copy/image/clone the entire drive WITHOUT modification, which is how you get a 160/500.
post #10378 of 23784
Thank you for all the info. I tape a Ball Room dance class with a VCR camcorder (the studios). I then take that raw video and dub it to the HD of the 2160A and edit it, and make DVDs for the group. I do have the DVDs of all the classes but I thought the edited raw video would make a better subsequent copy. I also liked having all the classes on the HD to view at any time. I can dub the DVDs to the new HD but I think I would loose some quality. That is why I wanted to save the original data on the HD.
THANK YOU!
Henry
post #10379 of 23784
> I then take that raw video and dub it to the HD

The density you record at will dictate the quality.

If you dubbed from the VCR to HD in EP you have EP quality. From that point on, any copy from HD will be EP.

Substitute the density of your choice in the above sentence.

> I do have the DVDs of all the classes but I thought the
> edited raw video would make a better subsequent copy.

It is not "edited raw video" on the HD, it is an edited EP recording.

> I can dub the DVDs to the new HD but I think I would loose some quality.

EP on HD equals EP on DVD but because the Funai recorders only have analog input (composite or S-Video) you will lose quality from an external player because of the digital-analog-digital conversion.

If you dub within the Funai you will be adding real time play hours on the DVD, but if the internal copying is digital you should not lose anything. The answer to that may be in http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post12327722
post #10380 of 23784
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Originally Posted by sydyen View Post

You are.

You have little, if any, knowledge of the recorder's internals and do not realize there is no distinction between the copy, image, or clone of a Funai drive.

Use Search to educate yourself.

You will discover that nobody has ever figured out the operating system or the file structure of the Funai disk. Without that kind of knowledge it is impossible to COPY the data content and MODIFY the file structure to correlate recording capacity to the raw drive capacity.

What you can do is copy/image/clone the entire drive WITHOUT modification, which is how you get a 160/500.

So, you are trying to tell me two things.
1, The brand of the HDD inside the Magnavox 2160A has an impact on the data inside it (meaning, because it's a Funai it's more special than the other ones).
2. Copying of files, cloning, or making an image of the contents of a HDD is the same thing?
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