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post #11461 of 23784
10/4/10 at 7:12am
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I haven't had a lot of problems with the HDMI so far,but two shows I wanted to record didnt seem to want to. If I am home when recording, I can do a workaround, but not knowing IF it'll record (timer ) is a different story, so I think for now I will be scheduling most of my remote recordings on the other maggies. I plan to swap HDMI to component out from the RNG110, but temporarily resorted to HDMI because they only offer one audio out (part of the component), and I need to go to the maggie as well as the tv. Crazy box! Cheeeezy. It was funny, last night Netflix went "off line" and I was immediately blaming the HDMI connection. When you expect a 'fail' ... everything fits the scenario.

Are you saying you have the Maggie connected to your cable box with a HDMI cable?
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post #11462 of 23784
10/4/10 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

You can split your audio with Y-adapters from Walmart or elsewhere, one for each L/R output... just RCA audio cables with one input and two output legs.

Y adapters may be purchased in all manner of locations, even grocery/variety stores.
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post #11463 of 23784
10/4/10 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by artwire View Post

And yes, buying a new one when it fills up has worked well for me (I'm on #4) ... one of these days I'm going to swap a HD -- I've been waiting to plow through the recordings on the drive, first, and never seem to have time to catch up or dub.

You may want to adopt the cascade strategy of picking a unit and setting up S-Video Out to S-Video In on one of the others. Empty one unit, upgrade, then follow the same process until all units are upgraded to 500GB.

Even though everything is in real time it is more convenient than dubbing. The longest recordings were run overnight, the shortest were scheduled for regular hours and often wound up being watched and deleted from both source and destination...
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post #11464 of 23784
10/4/10 at 3:41pm
I must be in the minority as far as how I use my recorder, most likely due to the fact that I have a DVR provided by my service provider that I use for all timer recordings and as a "firewall" for determining content I want to keep or throw away. Only titles I plan on keeping make it to the 3576, which all get burned to dvd eventually. I don't think I've ever had more than 40 titles on it. And I always use LIFO order to keep fragmentation to a minimum.
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post #11465 of 23784
10/4/10 at 5:24pm
I have owned my Maggie 513 for nine days. I admit I have only read 1/3 of all the posts under this thread. But I have noticed that when I play a commerical DVD thru my machine, the image is washed out. Blacks are gray. But when I play a recorded program (TV only so far) recorded with the Maggie, the blacks look acceptable. I have know idea what may be going on. Any one may chime in, but if I can get wajo, jjeff, and digado attention, I will be greatful. Other wise, this 513 is everything all has said it could be. Thank you for listening (reading) my post.
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post #11466 of 23784
10/4/10 at 5:31pm
Why would you want to watch commercial DVDs with the recorder?
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post #11467 of 23784
10/4/10 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by Plasma Guy View Post

I have owned my Maggie 513 for nine days. I admit I have only read 1/3 of all the posts under this thread. But I have noticed that when I play a commerical DVD thru my machine, the image is washed out. Blacks are gray. But when I play a recorded program (TV only so far) recorded with the Maggie, the blacks look acceptable. I have know idea what may be going on. Any one may chime in, but if I can get wajo, jjeff, and digado attention, I will be greatful. Other wise, this 513 is everything all has said it could be. Thank you for listening (reading) my post.

Playing both thru same connection to TV?
What type of connections if different?
What brand/type of TV?
Different commercial DVDs?
If HDMI, what Format and other HDMI settings?
Lots more info for long-distance troubleshooting needed.
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post #11468 of 23784
10/4/10 at 7:56pm
I got my 2160 from JR tonight and am disappointed, as it has a noticeable scratch on the front, and a couple very obvious dents in the back. I'd accept a scratch, but am I unrealistic to expect it would not be dented? There's a small dent just to the left of the fan, and a good sized one to the right of the fan that causes a bow in the metal on that section, and the lid is gaping a bit from the bend. If it won't affect performance, I won't matter, but I'm nervous that it could affect something inside or make it less dust resistant. Since it's here, I suppose I should see if it works, but it came too late to set up tonight.
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post #11469 of 23784
10/4/10 at 8:41pm
wajo, thank you for responding.
Playing both/all thru HMDI.
TV is Panny PZ80U plasma
3 DVD, 1 is a copy of commerical DVD from the neighbor, 2 is Sound & Vision Tune-Up DVD, 3 is Ultimate DVD Silver Edition (also tune-up).
HDMI format is YCbCr.
As reported, copies made with the Mag 513 appear acceptable.
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post #11470 of 23784
10/4/10 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

I got my 2160 from JR tonight and am disappointed, as it has a noticeable scratch on the front, and a couple very obvious dents in the back. I'd accept a scratch, but am I unrealistic to expect it would not be dented? There's a small dent just to the left of the fan, and a good sized one to the right of the fan that causes a bow in the metal on that section, and the lid is gaping a bit from the bend. If it won't affect performance, I won't matter, but I'm nervous that it could affect something inside or make it less dust resistant. Since it's here, I suppose I should see if it works, but it came too late to set up tonight.

I can't recall reading of anyone who's got a J&R refurb that had so many large and noticeable "cosmetic" defects... not sure I'd keep it even if it works. A hassle to return it for sure, but I think J&R can do better than that, as they have in the past! I believe you've got 30 days but I'd contact them right away to be on record that you're disatisfied with the product.
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post #11471 of 23784
10/4/10 at 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by Plasma Guy View Post

wajo, thank you for responding.
Playing both/all thru HMDI.
TV is Panny PZ80U plasma
3 DVD, 1 is a copy of commerical DVD from the neighbor, 2 is Sound & Vision Tune-Up DVD, 3 is Ultimate DVD Silver Edition (also tune-up).
HDMI format is YCbCr.
As reported, copies made with the Mag 513 appear acceptable.

Sounds as if plain commercial movies on DVD should play the same as the HDD recorded titles, so try one... the ones you have tried are "suspect" IMO. Leave HDMI on YCbCr for a regular movie.

You could also try RGB Format just for the hell of it... maybe your plasma is reverting to that anyway (i.e., not compatible with YCbCr). If it is, the RGB Range comes into play, so try Normal and Enhanced (DNA to YCbCr).
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post #11472 of 23784
10/4/10 at 9:03pm
I didn't get any comment to my first question, so I will re-phrase it.

2160A Compatibility
Has anyone been able to perform dubs to the same DVD+RW disc from a 2160A and either a 3575 or a 3576? If so, did you have to do anything unusual?

Has anyone been able to dub from a DVD+RW created on a 3575 or 3576 to a 2160A? If so, did you have to do anything unusual?

Has anyone been able to dub from a DVD+RW created on a 2160A to a 3575 or 3576? If so, did you have to do anything unusual?
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2160 Compatibility
Has anyone been able to perform dubs to the same DVD+RW disc from a base 2160 and either a 3575 or a 3576?

TIA for any information anyone can provide.
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post #11473 of 23784
10/4/10 at 9:07pm
wajo, will experiment more tomorrow, thanks again.
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post #11474 of 23784
10/4/10 at 9:15pm
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Originally Posted by kenavs View Post

I didn't get any comment to my first question, so I will re-phrase it.

2160A Compatibility
Has anyone been able to perform dubs to the same DVD+RW disc from a 2160A and either a 3575 or a 3576? If so, did you have to do anything unusual?

Has anyone been able to dub from a DVD+RW created on a 3575 or 3576 to a 2160A? If so, did you have to do anything unusual?

Has anyone been able to dub from a DVD+RW created on a 2160A to a 3575 or 3576? If so, did you have to do anything unusual?
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2160 Compatibility
Has anyone been able to perform dubs to the same DVD+RW disc from a base 2160 and either a 3575 or a 3576?

TIA for any information anyone can provide.


Have you seen this help file on multi-machine recording, Option 1?
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post #11475 of 23784
10/5/10 at 12:11am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Have you seen this help file on multi-machine recording, Option 1?

WAJO,
Thanks for the link. I now have a vague recollection of this from quite some time ago. I guess it did not really register, since I only had the 3575 and 3576, so it was a non-issue for me, at that time.
  1. I just enabled, MAKE RECORDINGS COMPATIBLE, on the 2160A and the 3576.
  2. I tuned to L3 and erased a DVD+RW on the 2160A.
  3. I dubbed the first program from the 2160A to the DVD+RW.
  4. I dubbed the second program from the 3576 to the DVD+RW.
  5. I dubbed the third program from the 2160A to the DVD+RW.
  6. I played the DVD+RW on my SONY DVD player.
Everything went just the way it would have, if I had been moving the disk between my 3575 and 3576 , with MAKE RECORDINGS COMPATIBLE disabled.

Thanks again for your help.
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post #11476 of 23784
10/5/10 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

I can't recall reading of anyone who's got a J&R refurb that had so many large and noticeable "cosmetic" defects... not sure I'd keep it even if it works. A hassle to return it for sure, but I think J&R can do better than that, as they have in the past! I believe you've got 30 days but I'd contact them right away to be on record that you're disatisfied with the product.

Thanks for your reply! I'm on the West coast so a return means at least a couple weeks more wait, so I decided to see if it worked. It did.

On the positive, I've never had a DVDR before, so replay is utterly amazing. On the down side, this unit clearly has had use.

It was made December 2009, and has Ohio (refurb.) date 8-23-10. Old FW still.

HD Power On: 382 hours
DVD-RD 142:09

Is that a record for refurb, too?

DVD-RW and CD usage, however, were at zero. Does that mean they played DVDs but didn't record any?
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post #11477 of 23784
10/5/10 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

Thanks for your reply! I'm on the West coast so a return means at least a couple weeks more wait, so I decided to see if it worked. It did.

On the positive, I've never had a DVDR before, so replay is utterly amazing. On the down side, this unit clearly has had use.

It was made December 2009, and has Ohio (refurb.) date 8-23-10. Old FW still.

HD Power On: 382 hours
DVD-RD 142:09

Is that a record for refurb, too?

DVD-RW and CD usage, however, were at zero. Does that mean they played DVDs but didn't record any?

If DVD-WR was at zero, that does mean they just played discs. DVD-RD uses the laser diode (LD) on its Standby/On power level (3-5mW) so it's the same "heat" on the LD as just having the power cord plugged in but the unit off. I wouldn't worry about DVD-RD time.

Your 382 HDD hours are not a record... someone got one that worked OK with over 1,000 HDD hours.

So, between a rock and a hard place on your refurb... I would want a cosmetically cleaner unit just to feel better about possible hidden damage, but the time element sucks.

Unfortunately, it's entirely up to you!
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post #11478 of 23784
10/5/10 at 11:49am
I followed the instructions on this site that described how to put in a larger HDD in the 2160MW9( magnavox )MFG 2009.

after putting the new drive in and connecting securely I tried the step to format the drive and all it did was nothing.Please Help Me.
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post #11479 of 23784
10/5/10 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by CBT0601media View Post

I followed the instructions on this site that described how to put in a larger HDD in the 2160MW9( magnavox )MFG 2009.

after putting the new drive in and connecting securely I tried the step to format the drive and all it did was nothing.Please Help Me.

If you used a SATA HDD and your connection is secure and you didn't damage a cable, you may be having trouble entering the V.SKIP 079 code in the reqd 3 sec whilc keep the remote pointed properly... many people do.

If you end that 4-button sequence and your TV shows ch. 9 or other channel, you took too long and the TV thought you had pressed a channel button.

Try again, making sure you keep the remote pointed at the unit where it works best, then press the four buttons in rapid order.

The actual formatting on a new blank HDD takes just a sec or two, so it's also possible you missed it? To check, select the HDD and press REC. If it shows it's recording, you can STOP it after the red dot disappears, and the HDD is now ready for recording ops.
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post #11480 of 23784
10/5/10 at 12:04pm
Help, not sure where to post this. I purchased a 2160a from Walmart a little over a year ago. Power suddenly stopped working. I've tried other outlets so I know the problem is either the power cord of the power supply in the box. Anyone know if this can be fixed. I understand there may be a fuse in the power supply but I haven't opened the box up yet. Talked to Mag and, of course, since I'm about 1 month past the 1-yr warranty, they said "SORRY." They referred me to a repair facility which, I know, will want to charge me around what I paid for it. Any thoughts, help...please.
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post #11481 of 23784
10/5/10 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by surefire View Post

Help, not sure where to post this. I purchased a 2160a from Walmart a little over a year ago. Power suddenly stopped working. I've tried other outlets so I know the problem is either the power cord of the power supply in the box. Anyone know if this can be fixed. I understand there may be a fuse in the power supply but I haven't opened the box up yet. Talked to Mag and, of course, since I'm about 1 month past the 1-yr warranty, they said "SORRY." They referred me to a repair facility which, I know, will want to charge me around what I paid for it. Any thoughts, help...please.

Before looking at the fuse, which is right after the power cord enters the box, try a Soft Reset, as described in #2 here.
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post #11482 of 23784
10/5/10 at 12:50pm
Here is a DVD player with 3 remote code IDs:

http://resources.jvc.com/Resources/0...T1147-001A.pdf

See page 23.
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post #11483 of 23784
10/5/10 at 2:29pm
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I suggested to a new user trying an HDD upgrade to post here on no joy with a SATA II HDD he installed.

SATA II specs *seem* to be quite different than plain old SATA so I'm wondering if anyone knows about SATA II and if it might be OK or not OK for our DVDRs... I think this is the 1st SATA II drive mentioned by an upgrader?

Here's an article on SATA II.

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post #11484 of 23784
10/5/10 at 3:35pm
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I suggested to a new user trying an JDD upgrade to post here on no joy with a SATA II HDD he installed.

SATA II specs *seem* to be quite different than plain old SATA so I'm wondering if anyone knows about SATA II and if it might be OK or not OK for our DVDRs... I think this is the 1st SATA II drive mentioned by an upgrader?

Here's an article on SATA II.



I think he should look for a jumper on his HDD and set it to use with the old SATA controller (1.5 Gb/s). I believe the new one is 3Gb/s. However, I'm not sure what controller we have in the 2160/A. So if anybody is upgrading HDD, should find out.
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post #11485 of 23784
10/5/10 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

If DVD-RW was at zero, that does mean they just played discs. DVD-RD uses the laser diode (LD) on its Standby/On power level (3-5mW) so it's the same "heat" on the LD as just having the power cord plugged in but the unit off. I wouldn't worry about DVD-RD time.

Your 382 HDD hours are not a record... someone got one that worked OK with over 1,000 HDD hours.

So, between a rock and a hard place on your refurb... I would want a cosmetically cleaner unit just to feel better about possible hidden damage, but the time element sucks.

Unfortunately, it's entirely up to you!

Thanks, wajo! Your response was very helpful. I will think on it a bit more, and while it's still a guess whether everything ok on the inside, at least I don't feel like I'm entirely in the dark. Looking at photos/diagrams of the area where the dent is, at least the electronics appear to be spaced away from the box. I could think of worse places for a dent.
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post #11486 of 23784
10/5/10 at 10:47pm
Just makin sure you received a reply. Before I read your post. I tried several times again. The last time worked as described. The drive is formatted an is capable of recording.
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post #11487 of 23784
10/5/10 at 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

:SATA II specs *seem* to be quite different than plain old SATA so I'm wondering if anyone knows about SATA II and if it might be OK or not OK for our DVDRs...

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Originally Posted by bodhi78 View Post

I think he should look for a jumper on his HDD and set it to use with the old SATA controller (1.5 Gb/s). I believe the new one is 3Gb/s. However, I'm not sure what controller we have in the 2160/A. So if anybody is upgrading HDD, should find out.

No need to touch any jumpers, disk drives adapt to what they are attached to.

They have to, customers add new HDDs to old controllers all the time.
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post #11488 of 23784
10/6/10 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by sydyen View Post

No need to touch any jumpers, disk drives adapt to what they are attached to.

They have to, customers add new HDDs to old controllers all the time.

Thanks! good to know. I've installed the CLA class Hitachi disk on the Mag 2160A without even looking at the jumpers. I guess those were only for master/slave and cable select?
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post #11489 of 23784
10/6/10 at 5:53am
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I suggested to a new user trying an HDD upgrade to post here on no joy with a SATA II HDD he installed.

SATA II specs *seem* to be quite different than plain old SATA so I'm wondering if anyone knows about SATA II and if it might be OK or not OK for our DVDRs... I think this is the 1st SATA II drive mentioned by an upgrader?

Here's an article on SATA II.


This is not the first SATA II drive installed. The Hitachi HDS721050CLA362 is a SATA II drive.

I installed a Hitachi 7k1000.C Series drive (HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) in my 2160A in June 2010. It has performed flawlessly so far.
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post #11490 of 23784
10/6/10 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by gmacted View Post

This is not the first SATA II drive installed. The Hitachi HDS721050CLA362 is a SATA II drive.

I installed a Hitachi 7k1000.C Series drive (HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) in my 2160A in June 2010. It has performed flawlessly so far.

Thanks, I added you to the Pioneers list cuz you're actually the 3rd SATA II updater, so your post led to finding those others already in the list. It's important to show the SATA II prominently for others to show it's OK to install them.

If you have any "insights" that might help others, please add them to your post above, which is the post I'm linking to for info.
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