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post #13171 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

The TV I'm looking into buying(Toshiba 55HT1U) does not have analog audio outputs. It only has an optical digital output. Does that matter at all, in case I buy the 513 or 515?

Your TV doesn't need to have any outputs at all for the 515 or 513, only inputs.

Check out page 12 (pdf 13) of the Toshiba 55HT1U Owner's Manual. It shows 2 HDMI inputs on the back of the TV. All you would need to do is run one HDMI cable from the HDMI output of the Magnavox to one of the HDMI inputs on the TV. The HDMI cable will carry both video and audio on the same cable. You will also need to connect your antenna coax from the wall to the "Antenna In" on the Magnavox, then run another piece of coax from the Magnavox "Antenna Out" to the "Ant/Cable" connector on the back of the TV. Other than plugging in the power cord, you won't need to connect anything more than the two pieces of coax and the single HDMI cable.
post #13172 of 23781
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Appears all the H2160-RB's at J&R are sold out.

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post #13173 of 23781
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Originally Posted by stapler1234 View Post

Appears all the H2160-RB's at J&R are sold out.

I found a new 513 for sale at Exclusive Cell and Audio for $167.19. They also have a new 2080 for $109.72. They appear to have good prices but I've never done business with them. I don't know if they are trustworthy or not.
post #13174 of 23781
I don't know how wajo can keep from going crazy. The latest review, from 2/10, has more errors in such a small space that my cat could have posted it. Another one from a few days earlier is almost as bad. Most are real positive, some are really amazing.
post #13175 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

I found a new 513 for sale at Exclusive Cell and Audio...

I did an internet search. The business' name doesn't even produce any results.

That may not be a good sign.
post #13176 of 23781
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

I did an internet search. The business' name doesn't even produce any results.

That may not be a good sign.

Try:

http://www.cellandaudio.com/

Just a guess.

or

http://www.cellandaudio.com/products...tal-Tuner.html
post #13177 of 23781
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

When I have used them to combine, it has always been using 2 separate devices with 1 of them powered off. This was with an older TV with only 1 AV input, even combined the yellow video. Had them laying around so it was cheaper than buying a AV switch.

Agree- did the same.

I did feed two audio inputs to my 3575 by accident and got overlapping audio with no other problems. Just had to redo the copy.
post #13178 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

The TV I'm looking into buying(Toshiba 55HT1U) does not have analog audio outputs. It only has an optical digital output. Does that matter at all, in case I buy the 513 or 515?

Do you use your stereo analog outputs now? And should you decide to upgrade to a receiver, only the older receivers don't have at least one optical or coax audio input. If you have the room, even the stereo output of the unit sounds better than your TV's speakers. True, most avid users have the TV and other components feeding an AVR, but external speakers are better than internal. If your TV audio output is a fixed level only, you would have to use another remote for the audio unless Toshiba has an integrated system for sound that would work with your TV.
post #13179 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Please be gentle with me because I know nothing about DVD recorders or machines like the 515. What's the best input the 515 can record with? Does it just record with composite and S-video? I'm also wondering if our new(future) TV needs to have S-video or not to get the best recording quality with the 515? Thanks.

How do you currently have your VCR and TV set up? Are you just using OTA?
Thanks.
post #13180 of 23781
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Originally Posted by timtofly View Post

How do you currently have your VCR and TV set up? Are you just using OTA?
Thanks.

We're just using OTA, a 32" analog TV, and a Blu-ray player(Netflix). The antenna hooks up to converter box, then to VCR, then to TV. But I want to get rid of the converter box and VCR with the new TV(too many extra cables).
post #13181 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

We're just using OTA, a 32" analog TV, and a Blu-ray player(Netflix). The antenna hooks up to converter box, then to VCR, then to TV. But I want to get rid of the converter box and VCR with the new TV(too many extra cables).

The new TV will have several HDMI inputs available. Your Blu-ray player will hook to one of them. The 515 will hook to another one. That gives you 2 cables. Hook your antenna to the 515. You can also hook a cable from the antenna out of the 515 to the TV antenna in. That gives you 2 more cables (from the antenna to the 515 and from the 515 to the TV) (coax). You should now have 2 HDMI cables and 2 coax cables.

With this setup, your new TV will be able to tune the same channels the 515 will OTA. You can tune with the TV while the 515 is recording another channel. If you are currently switching an input to watch your Blurays, you will do the same for the 515. The 515 records to a Hard Drive similiar to the new DVR's that the cable companies offer. Switching input on your tv to the 515 will allow you to watch your recordings and delete them after you are done watching them. You do not have to use VHS tapes and with the 515, you do not even have to use blank DVD's to enjoy it. You always have the option of burning to DVD's at any time though. You can also continue to watch netflix, blurays, or DVD's on your bluray player. Actually the new TV's offer internet applications also.

The 515 will replace your converter box, your vcr, and all cables associated. You will only need 2 HDMI and 2 coax cables.
post #13182 of 23781
timtofly, thank you. That sounds good and makes sense now.
post #13183 of 23781
"Actually these units can accept RF input from another unit, say an old, cheap VCR that only has RF output. Channel 3/4 out, tune to same on the DVR & record to Hd or DVD."

I read a long time ago that you could actually transmit Video to another TV with analog tuner using a VCR with RF output. Just add an antenna to the RF out of the VCR. Of course it would not xmit very far. Never actually tried it but at least it sounded cool.

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Y rca splitters combiners. My experience was if you split audio out you get reduced volume to both input devices. Maybe even half.
post #13184 of 23781
Thread Starter 


I've added a new Problem (P5) to the "Known Problems ..." help file, which I started and have kept up to date for all to see since Sticky-thread inception in Nov 2007.

This new P5 problem is for a "statistically significant" number of initial failure reports in Walmart Reviews (6-8%, no op errors) in the latest MDR units (513/515).

Note: This is based solely on a ratio of Total Reviews, which may have no relationship to total manufactured since negative reviewers are generally more motivated to post their experience than positive reviewers.

post #13185 of 23781
I've posted here before about getting my new Mag515 to work with my mostly scrambled FIOS channels. I have it working OK after much messing about with the channel scans based on some of the info in this thread. I am able to set programmed recordings on the networks and PBS channels. I never use it to watch tv because I am afraid I will 'lose' the channels by moving around with the remote...

But, I moved my Phillips3575H out to another tv and can't get it to scan in anything. I was able to briefly see CBS 6.1 when I tuned to 72 and it automatically moved back to 6.1 but that didn't last and I am unable to get anything now. Using the remote control to change channels only gets me to the L1, L2 inputs...

So my question is: is there a technical difference between the Mag and Phil, such as a 'newer' QAM tuner in the newer Mag515, that keeps me from scanning in a realiable signal on the Phil? If so, I guess I could buy another Mag515 and at least get some ability, but didn't want to give up on the Phil yet. My previous set up with the Phil3575 was OTA and it worked fine. Of course I could go back to that but wanted to elimate the extra antenna and wires and also want to get what FIOS is supposed to be giving me--unscrambled broadcast channels on the cable.

Any suggestions?
post #13186 of 23781
My oldest DVD recorder Non Hard Drive with Analog tuner apparently has given up the ghost. It is a nice turner and player now but it keeps choking in record. It is kinda weird. If you set it for 2 hrs you will get 1 hr. Then it got even worse and is not doing timed recordings and is messing up the RW disk so that I can not record and additional info on the disk although I can still play all the previous titles on the RW disk.

I am guessing I need a new RW component.

The error messages for my MWR 10D6 were Disk error E3 5 C040301 and time recording displayed e42.
post #13187 of 23781
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Originally Posted by sap2007 View Post

I've posted here before about getting my new Mag515 to work with my mostly scrambled FIOS channels. I have it working OK after much messing about with the channel scans based on some of the info in this thread. I am able to set programmed recordings on the networks and PBS channels. I never use it to watch tv because I am afraid I will 'lose' the channels by moving around with the remote...

But, I moved my Phillips3575H out to another tv and can't get it to scan in anything. I was able to briefly see CBS 6.1 when I tuned to 72 and it automatically moved back to 6.1 but that didn't last and I am unable to get anything now. Using the remote control to change channels only gets me to the L1, L2 inputs...

So my question is: is there a technical difference between the Mag and Phil, such as a 'newer' QAM tuner in the newer Mag515, that keeps me from scanning in a realiable signal on the Phil? If so, I guess I could buy another Mag515 and at least get some ability, but didn't want to give up on the Phil yet. My previous set up with the Phil3575 was OTA and it worked fine. Of course I could go back to that but wanted to elimate the extra antenna and wires and also want to get what FIOS is supposed to be giving me--unscrambled broadcast channels on the cable.

Any suggestions?

Only thing for sure is the 515 has totally different FW, incl. the DTV tuner FW.

With your 3575, have you tried the same routine as Ken.F did in that linked post: run Auto Channel Preset with coax DISCONNECTED, then add DTV ch. 72 (plus the other high channel #s that are duplicated in the lower range)? Don't Add any analogs.

I've noticed that when a unit has both a low- and high-numbered dup. channel, Adding *only* the high-numbered ones seems to work... contrary experience soon to appear.
post #13188 of 23781
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post

My oldest DVD recorder Non Hard Drive with Analog tuner apparently has given up the ghost. It is a nice turner and player now but it keeps choking in record. It is kinda weird. If you set it for 2 hrs you will get 1 hr. Then it got even worse and is not doing timed recordings and is messing up the RW disk so that I can not record and additional info on the disk although I can still play all the previous titles on the RW disk.

I am guessing I need a new RW component.

Do you have a question regarding the recorders this forum was set up to discuss?
post #13189 of 23781
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post

My oldest DVD recorder Non Hard Drive with Analog tuner apparently has given up the ghost. It is a nice turner and player now but it keeps choking in record. It is kinda weird. If you set it for 2 hrs you will get 1 hr. Then it got even worse and is not doing timed recordings and is messing up the RW disk so that I can not record and additional info on the disk although I can still play all the previous titles on the RW disk.

I am guessing I need a new RW component.

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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

Do you have a question regarding the recorders this forum was set up to discuss?

The 515 is a good investment and adds a hard drive component to save on wear and tear of the RW burner. Getting it how you want it on the Hard drive first and doing a high speed dub, will prolong the life of the RW burner.
post #13190 of 23781
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Only thing for sure is the 515 has totally different FW, incl. the DTV tuner FW.

Does this make the tuner behave differently?
post #13191 of 23781
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Does this make the tuner behave differently?

I suppose it could, but I only know the FW versions are different... still all I know for sure.
post #13192 of 23781
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Originally Posted by sap2007 View Post

I've posted here before about getting my new Mag515 to work with my mostly scrambled FIOS channels...

My previous set up with the Phil3575 was OTA and it worked fine. Of course I could go back to that but wanted to elimate the extra antenna and wires and also want to get what FIOS is supposed to be giving me--unscrambled broadcast channels on the cable.

Any suggestions?

Since the FIOS converter box is delivering an analog signal on the RF output perhaps you might want to consider dual connectivity with the FIOS converter box S-Video or composite video output (plus audio outputs) feeding the Magnavox 515 model's S-Video or composite inputs (plus audio inputs) while an antenna is connected to the 515 model's RF input. Then run an antenna channel scan. That way your OTA reception will provide SD digital reception. Use the FIOS digital/HD HDMI output or any of the analog outputs to a TV input. The analog outputs are component, S-Video or composite yellow video plus "Y" adapters to split the FIOS converter audio outputs for feeding TV and 515 inputs. Connect a 515 output to another input on the TV.

This post describes and illustrates such a dual connectivity arrangement with a Magnavox 2160 (but for simplicity the photo does not illustrate TV connections):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post19299886
post #13193 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Does this make the tuner behave differently?

That's a really good question. I have been waiting to buy the 515H for a while now. I really don't NEED it. but that's a minor issue for me. I have one in my Walmart cart because it seems improbable there will be any future changes I care about (HD/DD5.1/WiFi clock). Maybe I will buy it next month, so be patient and I will post the results here of course.

At work, our 2160A 'died' and I had to hold power on while plugging the unit in. It hasn't had any firmware updates and is used to play DVD training stuff via HDMI only.

If the 515H corrects the channel number differences from my cable feed, that would be nice. It picks up all the channels, just some with different number than everything else. Yes, I know I have one strange cable feed. While I don't know what behavior you are questioning, I'll let you know if I find any changes in my cable feed.
post #13194 of 23781
Thanks for the L3 E19 solution.
I have another problem.
The digital ota channels her in New york are out of order. 5-2 comes before 5-1. When I try recording 5-1 it automatically moves to 5-2 and does not record 5-1. The only way it records 5-1 is if the Dvr is on and on channel 5-1.
If I record two shows and the first is another channel, it will not record channel 5-1. Is there any fix?
post #13195 of 23781
I want to buy a Mag 515 but is Walmart the only place I can get one now? I'd hate to buy one from them and then see the price drop $50.00 next week. Amazon would be easier for me to order from. I live in Brooklyn, NY and do not have a car. Thanks for the info.
post #13196 of 23781
Thread Starter 
Walmart.com is only seller and has been since Nov 2, 2010.
post #13197 of 23781
Thanks Wajo. I am happy that Walmart has lowered their price to $248.oo + tax for me. So do I understand correctly that Mag 515 does not do 5.1 surround sound?
post #13198 of 23781
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Originally Posted by balletbull View Post
I want to buy a Mag 515 but is Walmart the only place I can get one now? I'd hate to buy one from them and then see the price drop $50.00 next week. Amazon would be easier for me to order from.
I don't know about with the 515, but in general, price fluctuations happen much more with Amazon.
post #13199 of 23781
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Originally Posted by balletbull View Post
Thanks Wajo. I am happy that Walmart has lowered their price to $248.oo + tax for me. So do I understand correctly that Mag 515 does not do 5.1 surround sound?
No std def DVDR in North America does DD5.1 for recording audio... audio comptression is *always* DD2.0 in those units that use DD.

It DOES play DD5.1 via digital coax to an AV receiver when present on commercial DVDs/movies.
post #13200 of 23781
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Originally Posted by rholczer View Post
Thanks for the L3 E19 solution.
I have another problem.
The digital ota channels her in New york are out of order. 5-2 comes before 5-1. When I try recording 5-1 it automatically moves to 5-2 and does not record 5-1. The only way it records 5-1 is if the Dvr is on and on channel 5-1.
If I record two shows and the first is another channel, it will not record channel 5-1. Is there any fix?
The solution was presented by another poster some time ago. Don't remember the name so I can't track the post down, or give credit. You have to delete the virtual channel (5) and add back the physical channel (44). It worked for me although I had a hard time deleting channel 5. Once you do this it should stay on channel 5.1 and record on that channel setting as well. If you can't get this to work you'll just have to record on 5.2 which is the SD version of the channel.


Oh, if you're still doing the L3 thing to finalize dvd copies there is a firmware update that fixes that particular bug. It's worth doing.
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