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post #13231 of 23768
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Originally Posted by gale1965 View Post

I have the magnavox 515. I was going to add it to my signature but the signature edit page says not to put equipment in my signature so I guess I have to remember to mention it every post.

You can go to your UserCP tab and change your location to "city, state with 515H". But just being here is really a big clue you have one of the models in the thread title. The 515H is the easiest to edit with, but the fundamentals are the same. Check post #1 for tons of valuable tips.
post #13232 of 23768
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Originally Posted by offgrid View Post

I live in a solar powered home, totally off-grid and so am pretty sensitive to power consumption when things are not in use. One of the nice things about the 515 is that while it uses about 33 watts when on it only uses about 4 watts when off.

While this may not seem like a big difference, in 24 hrs. it equals about 700 watts which is the same as running a small microwave oven for 1 hour.

My Sony LCD TV uses 60 watts when on but only 1 watt when off which is a big improvement over CRT sets which used less when on but almost the same amount when off. My Directv receiver uses 26 watts when on, and 25 when off so it gets the plug pulled every night.

It is amazing how little power it takes for an LCD-LED TV to run these days. I have the Sony 32EX700 set to not check for updates and the clock on my 2160A to manual only. That avoids the noon/midnight power on to find the time. Mine keeps really good time, and there is no channel on my cable feed that supplies good time anyhow.

With the frequency and duration of power failures I have, sometimes I feel like I'm off grid also.
post #13233 of 23768
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Originally Posted by gale1965 View Post

So anyway I will need to edit out any extraneous stuff at the beginning and possibly end (I will not cut out commercials though) before I put it on the dvd. Is it easiest to just split it into 2 or 3 parts (2 or 3 depending on if we're home to stop recording right at the end of the show) and delete the parts before the show starts and after it ends? Or is another way better?

I'd record it all in one title then cut out the unwanted parts before and after the program with this Scene Delete Procedure. Don't be intimidated by the length of the detailed instructions. Scene deletes are very easy to do once you have done it a couple of times.
post #13234 of 23768
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Originally Posted by gale1965 View Post

So anyway I will need to edit out any extraneous stuff at the beginning and possibly end (I will not cut out commercials though) before I put it on the dvd. Is it easiest to just split it into 2 or 3 parts (2 or 3 depending on if we're home to stop recording right at the end of the show) and delete the parts before the show starts and after it ends? Or is another way better?

Yes, that's what I'd do. Splitting only requires you to find one edit point whereas Scene Delete requires both end points (Start/End). Then it's an easy Delete of those end sections that you split off.
post #13235 of 23768
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, that's what I'd do. Splitting only requires you to find one edit point whereas Scene Delete requires both end points (Start/End). Then it's an easy Delete of those end sections that you split off.

I misunderstood the original question. I thought she wanted to split the recording session into two or three parts by setting separate back-to-back timer recordings.
post #13236 of 23768
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

I misunderstood the original question. I thought she wanted to split the recording session into two or three parts by setting separate back-to-back timer recordings.

I've been doing a lot of that lately, and now I'm reading words that aren't there!
post #13237 of 23768
Or, just record for three hours at LP 3 hr speed and let them FF through 60 minutes or football to the beginning when they watch. It's not like they're going to archive Amazing Race -- an eversoslightly less sharp recording quality means less time for you to edit ! Front and back cuts ARE easy, and it's good to know how to do them, so that would be the ideal way, but it will take you some extra time and you're already doing them a favor. Main difference would be that you could record at better speed (presumably SP) then cut it down to an hour (I think that's how long the show is) to fit on a disc, if you were going to edit, vs recording for 3 hrs at lower quality (like VHS) and just burning the whole thing to disc. If you're going to be asked to do this a lot, I might opt for the easy way, even tho it means burning one disc per show (with extra footage), rather than trying to sqeeze a few episodes onto one DVD after edits
post #13238 of 23768
Thanks everyone. I don't need to keep the part at the beginning (and possibly end) so I am deleting anything extra. Also I'd like to get it down to the hour it's on because I'm also recording Survivor for her and want to put 3 on a disc at a time. I don't mind doing the extra work-his sister has had a pretty rough life lately (her husband had a stroke and as a result he's like a child, she lost her job, she has health problems, etc).
post #13239 of 23768
Greetings,

I suspect I have a failing component in my 2160 but thought I'd check here to see if others have had issues. I have the output from my satellite receiver going through a distro amp into my 2160. Occasionally, usually after the unit has been on for awhile, I lose the video coming from the satellite. The audio is fine and I just get a blank/gray screen on recorded video.

I've swapped out cabling as well as the distro amp so I know it isn't an external issue. It is probably an IC failing within the 2160 that handles both L1 and L2 video (during troubleshooting, I swapped my signal to L2 to see if the problem went away and I see it with both inputs). Does anyone have a schematic or technical repair manual for these? If I can isolate the failed part, I am sure I can replace it, assuming it isn't a controller chip with proprietary code inside.

Thanks much - john
post #13240 of 23768
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Originally Posted by jaevans View Post

Greetings,

I suspect I have a failing component in my 2160 but thought I'd check here to see if others have had issues. I have the output from my satellite receiver going through a distro amp into my 2160. Occasionally, usually after the unit has been on for awhile, I lose the video coming from the satellite. The audio is fine and I just get a blank/gray screen on recorded video.

I've swapped out cabling as well as the distro amp so I know it isn't an external issue. It is probably an IC failing within the 2160 that handles both L1 and L2 video (during troubleshooting, I swapped my signal to L2 to see if the problem went away and I see it with both inputs). Does anyone have a schematic or technical repair manual for these? If I can isolate the failed part, I am sure I can replace it, assuming it isn't a controller chip with proprietary code inside.

An amp just before the 2160, so you're amping the signal before it hits the 2160's already amp'd video circuit! Have you read the help file on the "digital cliff"? Might be the problem.
post #13241 of 23768
Thanks much for the pointer - very good info there. A quick read of the post suggests that this is an issue with the tuner input from an antenna or rf source whereas my problem is only with analog composite video inputs (the old, red/wht/yel RCA connections). I hadn't thought that signal strength on those inputs may be the culprit so I may need convincing that this could be the case.

BTW, I have no problem with OTA signal recording. The blanking of video only seems to occur (the only place I've noticed it) with the L1 and L2 inputs. If it is internal to the 2160, I suspect that the circuit that deals with AV input from L1 and L2 is common nad may be the source of my problem.

Thanks,
John
post #13242 of 23768
Thread Starter 
The inputs go thru the same amp'd circuits as the tuner, but you are right.... it's internal.
post #13243 of 23768
This is why a decent schematic (readable) or a service manual would help, if such a thing exists. I may try more testing by recording OTA during the wee hours and playing back to see if I can duplicate the same symptoms. If so, that would tell me a lot. Any repair weenies like myself around here?

John
post #13244 of 23768
Thread Starter 
Just pull the separate amp, man, and see what happens!
post #13245 of 23768
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, that sounds good, except 3) using Composite and 4) using S-Vid will require you to install 3) in back w/o any menu changes (just select L1 as source when viewing/recording from VCR), but 4) will have to go in front so you can separately change L2 Video Input option to S-Video. You CAN plug both Composite and S-Vid in back or in front, but then you'd have an extra step to differentiate the inputs via the Video >Video Input menu, i.e., can't see both on back or in front individually w/o a menu change.

One advantage to connecting both in back (or front) is you only need one set of R/W cables for audio for either type.

Check out Monoprice.com for excellent cables, one of AVS's sponsors, small add at top of each page. They are the only source I've found for HDMI with ferrite core on each end to reduce interference.

Wajo,

I'm probably not replying in right place for this, but now that I've looked at things a little more closely, is there any reason why I couldn't connect my dvd player and VCR via composite cables to the Magnavox 515 DVDR (VCR in back; DVD in front), since I have mutliple composite cables on hand? I don't mind the cables being visible as long as I don't have to plug/unplug them. We're used to changing sources on various remotes, etc.

I originally thought, "oh, we need to try S-Video since that allows for better video" while not FULLY processing that I still need the L/R audio cables that are included in the composite cable "package." I was thinking that I'd have too many composite cables than I had inputs for (still thinking about the TV). But if the Magnavox DVDR is going to "communicate" with the TV via HDMI, than wouldn't I only need an HDMI from monoprice (with maybe a port saver or two)?

Clearly, we are not "home theater" people.

Oh, we decided on the un46c6300 'cause we found it at a great sale price. We could argue that it's not QUITE big enough, but it's great so far.
post #13246 of 23768
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Originally Posted by descant View Post

Wajo,

I'm probably not replying in right place for this, but now that I've looked at things a little more closely, is there any reason why I couldn't connect my dvd player and VCR via composite cables to the Magnavox 515 DVDR (VCR in back; DVD in front), since I have mutliple composite cables on hand? I don't mind the cables being visible as long as I don't have to plug/unplug them. We're used to changing sources on various remotes, etc.

I originally thought, "oh, we need to try S-Video since that allows for better video" while not FULLY processing that I still need the L/R audio cables that are included in the composite cable "package." I was thinking that I'd have too many composite cables than I had inputs for (still thinking about the TV). But if the Magnavox DVDR is going to "communicate" with the TV via HDMI, than wouldn't I only need an HDMI from monoprice (with maybe a port saver or two)?

Clearly, we are not "home theater" people.

Oh, we decided on the un46c6300 'cause we found it at a great sale price. We could argue that it's not QUITE big enough, but it's great so far.

That's what I would do in my system... I've never seen any increase in PQ from S-Video here (basic cable w/o a box).

With composite in back and front, then you only need to select L1 or L2 as the recording/viewing source, and your Video > Video Input can remain on its default "Video." Very simple setup.
post #13247 of 23768
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Originally Posted by descant View Post

Wajo,

I'm probably not replying in right place for this, but now that I've looked at things a little more closely, is there any reason why I couldn't connect my dvd player and VCR via composite cables to the Magnavox 515 DVDR (VCR in back; DVD in front), since I have mutliple composite cables on hand? I don't mind the cables being visible as long as I don't have to plug/unplug them. We're used to changing sources on various remotes, etc.

I originally thought, "oh, we need to try S-Video since that allows for better video" while not FULLY processing that I still need the L/R audio cables that are included in the composite cable "package." I was thinking that I'd have too many composite cables than I had inputs for (still thinking about the TV). But if the Magnavox DVDR is going to "communicate" with the TV via HDMI, than wouldn't I only need an HDMI from monoprice (with maybe a port saver or two)?

Clearly, we are not "home theater" people.

Oh, we decided on the un46c6300 'cause we found it at a great sale price. We could argue that it's not QUITE big enough, but it's great so far.

I use "Y" adapters to split the white and red audio outputs from my Comcast converter box to feed two recorders and the TV:
LL
LL
post #13248 of 23768
DigaDo,

Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures. Your setup is so far over my head that it's mind-boggling. But I'm encouraged and grateful to see that composite is not "dead."

Wajo, Thanks again.
post #13249 of 23768
All he needs is to throw a little marinara sauce over that in the second picture.

(I should talk. The back of my entertainment center looks a lot worse than that.)
post #13250 of 23768
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Originally Posted by amkfken View Post

On my second 515 from Wal Mart (first one was not a 515,was a 513), reordered and got correct one in 6 days!
Spent 8 hours hooking up with manual instructions for satellite box using r/w/y from box to 515, r/w/y from 515 to tv,coax from box to in on 515, coax out of 515 to TV.
Cannot finish install--no menu, every thing powers up, same hookup as my vcr, sat box set to channel 3, tv set to channel 3, 515 on channel 3----nothing!! TV works fine!
Help!! or it's going back and calling Dish for one of theirs!!

After spending more hours re-hooking up and adding various methods of attempting to get a workable unit, it has been removed, will be returned to Wal Mart for refund, and a VCR bought from ebay.
Should have listened to my Dad "Stay away from Magnavox and Emerson electronic equiptment, they are junk"
post #13251 of 23768
A VCR?
post #13252 of 23768
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

A VCR?

And it will probably flash "12:00" when it's plugged in...
post #13253 of 23768
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

And it will probably flash "12:00" when it's plugged in...

No it does not, at least it does not say "P--OFF as the 515 did!
Or did that mean Pi**ed off as I have been?
post #13254 of 23768
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Originally Posted by amkfken View Post

After spending more hours re-hooking up and adding various methods of attempting to get a workable unit, it has been removed, will be returned to Wal Mart for refund, and a VCR bought from ebay.
Should have listened to my Dad "Stay away from Magnavox and Emerson electronic equiptment, they are junk"

Too bad it didn't work out for you. I really like my Magnavox recorder and Emerson TV. Did you ever get the Magnavox setup menu on your TV screen?
post #13255 of 23768
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Originally Posted by gale1965 View Post

I have a quick question. What is the best way to edit this situation: my husband's sister can't get many channels so I'm going to record the amazing race for her on Sundays and dub it to dvd. The problem is that we usually aren't home when it's on and it never starts on time because of sports on during the day. So when I used to use the vhs, I would record for about 3 hours or so to make sure we caught the whole thing (we are always home before the end or at least not long after so it never recorded an entire 3 hours, actually). So anyway I will need to edit out any extraneous stuff at the beginning and possibly end (I will not cut out commercials though) before I put it on the dvd. Is it easiest to just split it into 2 or 3 parts (2 or 3 depending on if we're home to stop recording right at the end of the show) and delete the parts before the show starts and after it ends? Or is another way better?

eta: I have the magnavox 515. I was going to add it to my signature but the signature edit page says not to put equipment in my signature so I guess I have to remember to mention it every post.

Either cuts or title divide are fine - use whichever seems easier to you. I mostly do cuts, but when I have more than 20 minutes or so at the end, and no chapter mark to jump to, I usually just divide it.

Editing is easy, but you might want to practice on a recording you don't care about to get the hang of it. For your long recording, you might want to set frequent auto-chapters, or longer variable skip to jump through it faster. Also, you might want to dub to DVD-RW's (not +), which can be finalized for play on generic players (and computers), and then unfinalized and erased for re-use...

-Edit - it might be worth mentioning that late-night cable shows - SyFy, USA, TNT - don't always air on time. I always pad them by 10 minutes on both ends just to be safe...
post #13256 of 23768
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Originally Posted by amkfken View Post

On my second 515 from Wal Mart (first one was not a 515,was a 513), reordered and got correct one in 6 days!
Spent 8 hours hooking up with manual instructions for satellite box using r/w/y from box to 515, r/w/y from 515 to tv,coax from box to in on 515, coax out of 515 to TV.
Cannot finish install--no menu, every thing powers up, same hookup as my vcr, sat box set to channel 3, tv set to channel 3, 515 on channel 3----nothing!! TV works fine!
Help!! or it's going back and calling Dish for one of theirs!!

The coax out from the 515 is only a passthru. To see the 515 menus, to use the DVD or HDD functions, you would need to run composite(r/w/y), component, or HDMI from the 515 to the TV, then select the appropriate TV input instead of channel 3. Also, you would not set the 515 to channel 3, but to L1 to see what the output of the sat box.
post #13257 of 23768
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

Either cuts or title divide are fine - use whichever seems easier to you. I mostly do cuts, but when I have more than 20 minutes or so at the end, and no chapter mark to jump to, I usually just divide it.

Editing is easy, but you might want to practice on a recording you don't care about to get the hang of it. For your long recording, you might want to set frequent auto-chapters, or longer variable skip to jump through it faster. Also, you might want to dub to DVD-RW's (not +), which can be finalized for play on generic players (and computers), and then unfinalized and erased for re-use...

-Edit - it might be worth mentioning that late-night cable shows - SyFy, USA, TNT - don't always air on time. I always pad them by 10 minutes on both ends just to be safe...

thanks. I did edit last night (by splitting) but I was a nervous wreck. I did it after my husband and I watched just in case. It worked fine though. We are using DVD+RW. We made her a dvd of other shows to make sure it would work in her dvd player first. Mainly because I have a big supply of those and no DVD-RW on hand right now...

I think I will buy some of the -RW ones though. I want to copy my dd's dance recital for my sister and the one I did on my computer a few years ago would not work on her dvd player. I wonder if that would have helped...
post #13258 of 23768
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Originally Posted by amkfken View Post

On my second 515 from Wal Mart (first one was not a 515,was a 513), reordered and got correct one in 6 days!
Spent 8 hours hooking up with manual instructions for satellite box using r/w/y from box to 515, r/w/y from 515 to tv,coax from box to in on 515, coax out of 515 to TV.
Cannot finish install--no menu, every thing powers up, same hookup as my vcr, sat box set to channel 3, tv set to channel 3, 515 on channel 3----nothing!! TV works fine!
Help!! or it's going back and calling Dish for one of theirs!!

Have you tried selecting the tv's line inputs and not ch3 to see the menus yet?
I'd hate to see you return a dvd recorder and fall back to a vcr.
post #13259 of 23768
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Originally Posted by amkfken View Post

After spending more hours re-hooking up and adding various methods of attempting to get a workable unit, it has been removed, will be returned to Wal Mart for refund, and a VCR bought from ebay.
Should have listened to my Dad "Stay away from Magnavox and Emerson electronic equiptment, they are junk"


I for one do not agree with what your father thinks about Magnavox and Emerson. Sorry to say, I really think your problems are not brand related at all.
post #13260 of 23768
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Originally Posted by gale1965 View Post

thanks. I did edit last night (by splitting) but I was a nervous wreck. I did it after my husband and I watched just in case. It worked fine though. We are using DVD+RW. We made her a dvd of other shows to make sure it would work in her dvd player first. Mainly because I have a big supply of those and no DVD-RW on hand right now...

I think I will buy some of the -RW ones though. I want to copy my dd's dance recital for my sister and the one I did on my computer a few years ago would not work on her dvd player. I wonder if that would have helped...

You may have to experiment with that - AFAIK computer-burned DVD-RWs, if not finalized, don't work any better than DVD+RWs. Unfortunately Windows DVD maker and Media Center don't have a finalize option, so you might need to shop around for software or try out some freeware to get that feature...

It can be quirky, e.g. I can burn a disk with Windows and it will play on all 3 of my recorders, but none will allow it to be dubbed to the HDD. But I can re-record it to the HDD by playing it on a player attached to the recorder. Actually if you have a separate player that would also be an option for you - it's tedious, but once you have it on the HDD you can high-speed dub back to a DVD-RW and finalize it...
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