Originally Posted by circuitjoc
It seems I am only having trouble with the analog tuner side of the 515. The digital tuner does not drop out video. When I turn on the 515 and switch to the digital tuner there are no drop outs. Picture or sound. I can go from channel 12.3 up to 116.3. Now there are gaps. I do not get every channel from 12.3 to 116.3. It skips around the band. Like it goes from 12.3 to 20.3 then to 72.1. I had a combo DVD/VHS hooked up to this mini box. Recording from the mini box on CH4 worked with no problems. When I swapped the combo out for the 515 that is when I started having problems.
Duplicates.. I have the same example as you. The weather channel is on 73.2(1080i) then it shows back up on 81.1 at 480i. That's what I mean by duplicates.
I get this info from the TV in the main room hooked up to the straight feed from the wall no STB or anything else. I do not have any movie channels in my package. But since the change to all digital you have to have a box of some kind for anything.
Channels in the classic tier that I get on the digital tuners are these. 20.3 WGN(720p), 72.1 CBS(720p), 116.1 NBC(1080i), 112.1 ABC(720p). This is just a sample. They toss in a buch of self promoting channels and religous channels that I am guessing just come in the basic package. If you want basic you have to have classic or vise versa. I forget how they word it.
The bottom line is the 515 only has trouble with analog CH4. Other wise it works fine. At some point I am going to take the 2160 out of the main room and put it in the other room to see if it has trouble with CH4. I have had the 2160 hooked up to the composite outs since a got it about a year ago. To my recollection when the cableco had analog channels the tuner of the 2160 picked them all up. Now of course it just gets the digital or QAM channels. But I thought that I would try putting in the bedroom and see if it has trouble with CH4 from the mini box. If it works and does not have the same problem as the 515 the 515 may go back to the store for replacement.
Thanks for the clarification. The duplication of stations is a by-product of clear QAM. With a box they control what you get. Without a box you get the real signal. It's "raw" and not "cooked" by the box or a CableCARD. I think of it as "pure" as opposed to "mapped or virtual".
My feed also requires the purchase of the lower NTSC channels before you can upgrade. Even my cable modem service requires what mine calls "local" service. Your "classic" is my "basic". Put your location in your UserCP tab and you may find someone near you. Only three states are serviced by your feed.
I've had a 2160A for a while. I bought the 515H mainly so I could speak about it from first hand experience. The two were fed the same data from an active splitter. I only record on the 515H now. When both were connected I never had any problems that were unique to one or the other. That said, once I stopped recording with the 2160A it also stopped switching to 24 hour clock. The 515H, recording several times a week, has never switched to a 24 hour clock. Different issue.
Anyhow, I have (on both units) used NTSC channels to find a clock. Both units get a bad clock from my PBS channel and never any clock (or PSIP data) from my QAM digital channels (138 of them - 60+ clear). The gaps in your channel numbers are probably the scrambled QAM stations, or are waiting to be filled by your cable feed. The 515H does not have a "no signal" message. It does have a "scramble channel" message. You can force it to any channel even if it fails to find it with a scan. All of my old basic NTSC cable channels, like TNT, USA, etc., are now gone, but available in HD with my box, or SD digital with a free DTA or in clear QAM with the 515H. There is no relationship between clear QAM channel numbers and anything else in the universe. Plus: they move without notice.
I have never had an analog problem. From what you and others have described you get it on power up. No waiting needed. I tried to dup the problem, but failed. I hope you guys find a solution. My STB has composite output and rf ch 3. I could use the ch 3 output, but it really sucks. Maybe later.