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post #1501 of 25410
Interesting that Philips' website says the 3576 160GB is one of their most popular products. Doesn't say where but in that case you'd think they would keep making it themselves.

Ton
post #1502 of 25410
Thread Starter 
In case anyone wants to cut only the 1st frame of a title, or just a few at the beginning, here's a relatively easy way to do that:

Using Front-Cut to Delete the 1st Frame or Just a Few Frames at Beginning.
  1. Set START point using REW and OK, as described in this help file under "Front-Cut."
  2. While in PAUSE mode on 1st frame, press NEXT button twice to advance 2 frames (1 frame gets "no-go" circle), OR keep pressing NEXT to move as many frames as desired.
  3. Press OK to select that frame as END point.
  4. Press Delete.
post #1503 of 25410
Wajo,
I hope you technical service residual check$ from Philips go past 2009

It was my interest in phasing out my Panasonic VCR, that I happened to stumble on to your threads about the Philips 3575. Thanks

I've been a owner for only 5 1/2 months, but I develop a system for processing transfer of old VHS to DVD and dubbing to DVD, thanks to you and others help.

Couple of questions ????

1) I normally record everything at HQ, then edit & dub to DVD. Movies that run say 1hr 20m will convert to SP so it can fit onto DVD. I'm cool with that ! Should I record @ SP instead so as to take advantage of HS dub ? Since it will be converted to SP anyways. You've stated in the past about source material being best, like HQ.

2) I've only had 2 disc's not be able to finalized right after burning, I was able to finalize the next day??? What could have caused this ?

3) I can also remember 2 times that after editing that I wasn't able to dub onto a disc, found out that there was corruption at the end of the recording. Not sure if the editing caused this or not ??? I had to dump those Oh well.

4) I have to check my connections but as far as PQ goes RCA seems to me to be the best ?? I'm also connected via HDMI and S-Video, those latter 2 seem very dark compared to RCA PQ. I would think that HDMI should be the best. I'm sure you probably need more info .

I have a 40" Samsung HDTV (love it) Philips is 1st inline from standard cable / no box.

Sorry for ????? I've been saving up questions from lurking since March

Thanks

Steve
post #1504 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

Wajo,
I hope you technical service residual check$ from Philips go past 2009
It was my interest in phasing out my Panasonic VCR, that I happened to stumble on to your threads about the Philips 3575. Thanks
I've been a owner for only 5 1/2 months, but I develop a system for processing transfer of old VHS to DVD and dubbing to DVD, thanks to you and others help.
Couple of questions ????

Questions are always good!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

1) I normally record everything at HQ, then edit & dub to DVD. Movies that run say 1hr 20m will convert to SP so it can fit onto DVD. I'm cool with that ! Should I record @ SP instead so as to take advantage of HS dub ? Since it will be converted to SP anyways. You've stated in the past about source material being best, like HQ.

I think to anyone who makes a reasonably large number of DVDs (don't know how to quantify that?), high-speed dub (HSD) is the holy grail! As listed in the help file, HSD brings these important benefits:
  1. Makes a lossless, mirror image of the HDD file.
  2. Fits more time on a disc than the pg 39 RTD times.
  3. Transfers all auto- and custom-set chapter marks to a disc.
  4. Doesn't prevent other machine ops so you can watch channels or recordings while dubbing.
  5. Heats the laser for a shorter time.
To anyone who makes DVD copies on a regular basis, these benefits almost demand that you record in a rec mode that guarantees you can HSD. That's why those extra minutes you can get on a disc using HSD (also listed in that help file) are so important... you have to know what the target length is for each rec mode.

UNLESS you're a "PQ-obssessor," 2-hr-SP is probably the most usable for the types of shows most people want on DVDs, and the playback PQ will also be good from all digital and *most* analog channel sources.

2-hr-SP is also ideal for a 3-hr movie if you don't mind editing out opening and closing crap and the commercials. At 43 min per hour of actual program, that works out to 43 x 3 = 129 min. or 2:09:00, just under the 2:10:00 @SP that'll fit on a DVD using HSD. However, I've used 3-hr-LP for many dramas and even some action movies, like James Bond, on my TNT digital HD channel (in my analog cable feed) with really good results... no editing and HSD OK.

OTOH, for those who have to have the best PQ for VIEWING, and do mostly timeshifting of their favorite shows, 1-hr-HQ should satisfy best and, as you've prob. found, can be mode-converted to 2-hr-SP on occasion with good results. They DO tie up the machine compared to a HSD, tho.

A lot depends on pers. prefs, how often shows have to be dubbed, and what TV and service a person has... I can imagine systems that might not be able to show any diff. between HQ and SP (OTA HD channel with outstanding PQ, for one... source is "chock-full-o-bits"). I'm mostly a timeshifter now, and I've been setting 1-hr HQ programs back to back and getting high-PQ individual titles ready for dubbing... but only if I want to later... so far, only 1 keeper! My wife's daily Soaps get 2-hr-SP!

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Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

2) I've only had 2 disc's not be able to finalized right after burning, I was able to finalize the next day??? What could have caused this ?

The Disc Edit > Finalize option won't be available (greyed out) if you've got a timer rec program due to start within 1-hour... can't be even 59 minutes! Options are: (1) just wait, (2) delete timer rec program and reset it after Finalize, or (3) buy more 3576's and use another machine, like I do!

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Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

3) I can also remember 2 times that after editing that I wasn't able to dub onto a disc, found out that there was corruption at the end of the recording. Not sure if the editing caused this or not ??? I had to dump those Oh well.

I ran into something similar awhile ago and, as I remember, I was able to cut a short snippet off the beginning or the end (or both?), and the title became usable again. Another time, I found I had too many Chapter Marks cuz I was running with 5-minute auto-chapter marking, then made lots of edits close together, which added more marks, so my Chapter Marks were "colliding." I'm now running with the default 10-min. auto-chaptering.

If you have a suspected "corrupted" title, BACK out to TV and come back in, let the index pics regenrate, and try again. Even turning off the machine for a few might help at least let you back in to snip or delete chapter marks, or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

4) I have to check my connections but as far as PQ goes RCA seems to me to be the best ?? I'm also connected via HDMI and S-Video, those latter 2 seem very dark compared to RCA PQ. I would think that HDMI should be the best. I'm sure you probably need more info .
I have a 40" Samsung HDTV (love it) Philips is 1st inline from standard cable / no box.

Since you're like me, a cable subscriber, you might have found what I did... preserving my Composite cable signal all the way to the TV gives me my best tuner/HDD-watching pic on my 47" 1080p LCD. Experts say that separating the video components always loses some quality, and my LCD has more expensive video Component separation and filtering circuits, so I pass my Composite signal on to the TV and let its do its job... which it seems to do quite well in my system.

I also run HDMI for playing commercial DVDs, which are produced with digital Component video, or YCbCr, so DVDs can deliver perfectly separated digital video Components to the TV. Best for that is HDMI.

For your dark pic, you can (1) try Component cables, which people say brightens their pic, or (2) set your HDMI Format for YCbCr and see if that helps. Since that will revert to the deault RGB/YPbPr (analog Component) if your TV isn't YCbCr compatible, make sure your RGB Range is set for Normal (this only comes into play with the HDMI Format set for RGB).

I had a PM conversation with a 3576 user who has a 52" Samsung and got a dark pic in one particular scene of a commercial DVD. He ended up with YCbCr setting cuz it brightened his pic up for both TV watching and for recording! He also mentioned that there was a YCbCr setting in his TV, and setting that ON made things worse! His TV would auto-switch to YCbCr anyway when fed that signal from his 3576, so he just left his TV setting OFF.
post #1505 of 25410
Questions are always good!

Great.....

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I think to anyone who makes a reasonably large number of DVDs (don't know how to quantify that?), high-speed dub (HSD) is the holy grail!

Looks like I'll go with SP if over a Hour & HQ-HSD up to a Hour. That way I can HSD more often!!!! Thanks

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The Disc Edit > Finalize option won't be available (greyed out) if you've got a timer rec program due to start within 1-hour... can't be even 59 minutes! Options are: (1) just wait, (2) delete timer rec program and reset it after Finalize, or (3) buy more 3576's and use another machine, like I do!

I looked in the manual (pg 60 etc.) for this information, or did I miss it ?
I tried to edit and finalize within a half-hour of a timed recording....Bingo !
Do you have any suggestions on how to sneak another one past the Gate-Keeper (Wife)

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I ran into something similar awhile ago and, as I remember, I was able to cut a short snippet off the beginning or the end (or both?), and the title became usable again. Another time, I found I had too many Chapter Marks cuz I was running with 5-minute auto-chapter marking, then made lots of edits close together, which added more marks, so my Chapter Marks were "colliding." I'm now running with the default 10-min. auto-chaptering.

If you have a suspected "corrupted" title, BACK out to TV and come back in, let the index pics regenrate, and try again. Even turning off the machine for a few might help at least let you back in to snip or delete chapter marks, or whatever.

I think I remember trying to snip some frames from the end, but didn't work. I have to try this if it happens again.

Quote:


Since you're like me, a cable subscriber, you might have found what I did... preserving my Composite cable signal all the way to the TV gives me my best tuner/HDD-watching pic on my 47" 1080p LCD. Experts say that separating the video components always loses some quality, and my LCD has more expensive video Component separation and filtering circuits, so I pass my Composite signal on to the TV and let its do its job... which it seems to do quite well in my system.

I also run HDMI for playing commercial DVDs, which are produced with digital Component video, or YCbCr, so DVDs can deliver perfectly separated digital video Components to the TV. Best for that is HDMI.

For your dark pic, you can (1) try Component cables, which people say brightens their pic, or (2) set your HDMI Format for YCbCr and see if that helps. Since that will revert to the deault RGB/YPbPr (analog Component) if your TV isn't YCbCr compatible, make sure your RGB Range is set for Normal (this only comes into play with the HDMI Format set for RGB).

I had a PM conversation with a 3576 user who has a 52" Samsung and got a dark pic in one particular scene of a commercial DVD. He ended up with YCbCr setting cuz it brightened his pic up for both TV watching and for recording! He also mentioned that there was a YCbCr setting in his TV, and setting that ON made things worse! His TV would auto-switch to YCbCr anyway when fed that signal from his 3576, so he just left his TV setting OFF.

I some thing to try this weekend, funny that the lowest ? connection seemed to be the best PQ to me. I do have Component cables to try.

Thanks for the detail help !!!

Steve
post #1506 of 25410
I seem to be having an issue with timer recording.

I will set the timer to run from 7p to 1:15a to catch all the Olympics coverage. But the recording will shut off long before the end; maybe a half hour. I don't know the exact time it happens but it has done this twice. Not sure if this is a sporadic gremlin or if I am doing something to cause this.

btw: There is plenty of space on the hdd.
post #1507 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBR_999 View Post

I seem to be having an issue with timer recording.

I will set the timer to run from 7p to 1:15a to catch all the Olympics coverage. But the recording will shut off long before the end; maybe a half hour. I don't know the exact time it happens but it has done this twice. Not sure if this is a sporadic gremlin or if I am doing something to cause this.

btw: There is plenty of space on the hdd.

Hmmm, now that's a new one.

What rec mode are you using?

Also, if there was an "error" in the rec., there should be a number in the timer rec program identifying the error.
post #1508 of 25410
Didn't see an error code - it apparently just quit.

Recording on SP.
post #1509 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Still odd... but interesting!

I wonder if something came on at the time it quit recording that was copy-protected. I ran into this once with my Pio 640, except it continued recording black screen with a message on CP. Turned out the station/network had CP on a COMMERCIAL... obv. an error!

I wondered about the unit's noon and midnight search for a PBS time signal with Auto Clock On, and whether IT could take precedence during a recording, so I'm running a timer program across noon today just to see if any effect.
post #1510 of 25410
Quote:
Originally Posted by wajo View Post

(...) I wondered about the unit's noon and midnight search for a PBS time signal with Auto Clock On, and whether IT could take precedence during a recording, so I'm running a timer program across noon today just to see if any effect.

I've wondered about that too, but the other night
I recorded something from 11:30 PM to 12:30 AM
with no problems.
(I'm OTA only.)
post #1511 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I've wondered about that too, but the other night I recorded something from 11:30 PM to 12:30 AM with no problems.
(I'm OTA only.)

Good to know. You've got Auto Clock On?

my timer program is set for 11:30am-12:30PM today and, based on your exp., it should rec OK. If so, TBR_999's premature cutoff remains an interesting mystery... whodonit!
post #1512 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBR_999 View Post

Didn't see an error code - it apparently just quit.

Recording on SP.

Can you check the running time in the Title menu and see exactly how long the rec is?
post #1513 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

I looked in the manual (pg 60 etc.) for this information, or did I miss it ?
I tried to edit and finalize within a half-hour of a timed recording....Bingo !
Do you have any suggestions on how to sneak another one past the Gate-Keeper (Wife)

The 1-hour thing is easy to miss since pg 60 of the manual just says "Finalizing may take several minutes up to an hour" and doesn't mention timer rec in that 1-hour scenario and how it keeps the Finalize option unavailable.

As far as your "Gatekeeper," you prob. have to have lots of upcoming primetime shows you like and want to timeshift or make sure you see and, like us, many have to be ON at the same day and time, leading to an absolute NEED for another unit... or two!
post #1514 of 25410
Quote:
Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Can you check the running time in the Title menu and see exactly how long the rec is?

Whoops, too late. Already edited for dubbing.
post #1515 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TBR_999 View Post

Whoops, too late. Already edited for dubbing.

With Chuck44's post and my test, we can rule out the Auto-Clock PBS signal search at noon and midnight as a possible rec-stop trigger. Still a mystery. Only thing I can think of now is possible Copy Protection of a broadcast segment, either intentional or unintentional, as with my Pio 640 experience related above, except your's triggered a stop-rec action?

EDIT: Even tho we confirmed that Auto-Clock shouldn't interfere with a timer rec across noon or midnight, there COULD be something in your system where the PBS search has a problem or hangs, or ... ?

JFTHOI, turn Auto Clock OFF and see if it recurs or goes away???

If Auto-Clock is important to you, then also try entering your local PBS channel in the "Manual" menu so it doesn't have to search all channels for the time signal???
post #1516 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

3) I can also remember 2 times that after editing that I wasn't able to dub onto a disc, found out that there was corruption at the end of the recording. Not sure if the editing caused this or not ??? I had to dump those Oh well.

I missed this on first go-round, and I've heard from some others about "corruption" when they used Divide. If you used Divide, that may be the problem.

A good time to reiterate that, whenever possible, you should use Scene Delete - Front Cut and - End Cut, as described in this help file, rather than trying to "Divide-off" portions, which CAN cause corruption.

Also, since the 3575/76 is great at timer recording back-to-back (BTB) programs (7-8, 8-9, 9-10) on same or different channels, try setting up more BTB timer programs so you never have to use Divide?
post #1517 of 25410
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

I missed this on first go-round, and I've heard from some others about "corruption" when they used Divide. If you used Divide, that may be the problem.

A good time to reiterate that, whenever possible, you should use Scene Delete - Front Cut and - End Cut, as described in this help file, rather than trying to "Divide-off" portions, which CAN cause corruption.

If I remember correctly, after I edited the single title, went to burn, the DVD went goofy. Reviewed the title on the DVR, the ending froze up the Philips. I hadn't used divide, since you had alerted me from your response to another user. I have used divide but haven't had any problems with it >

You caught it with your response

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I ran into something similar awhile ago and, as I remember, I was able to cut a short snippet off the beginning or the end (or both?), and the title became usable again. Another time, I found I had too many Chapter Marks cuz I was running with 5-minute auto-chapter marking, then made lots of edits close together, which added more marks, so my Chapter Marks were "colliding." I'm now running with the default 10-min. auto-chaptering.

If you have a suspected "corrupted" title, BACK out to TV and come back in, let the index pics regenrate, and try again. Even turning off the machine for a few might help at least let you back in to snip or delete chapter marks, or whatever.

I think I remember trying to snip some frames from the end, but didn't work. I have to try this if it happens again. I also use 10 min auto-chapters.

Normally I check beginnings and end to check my editing, but I didn't in this case.

Thanks for the Guidance

Steve
post #1518 of 25410
Thread Starter 
FYI since this seems to be coming up more often lately:

The very first user review in Google Checkout was by a self-proclaimed "Gearhead" who said this: "BAD BUILD QUALITY - I have had to return 6 of these with the same problem. They have defective S video inputs"!

He DID say that setup was "confusing" so I can easily guess that he didn't see the info on the Video Input being defaulted to Composite, and you have to SET that input to S-Video in the Video menu.

There are hundreds of posts in this thread, and I've personally heard from many more people via PM, and not one has complained about an S-Video input that was inoperable.
post #1519 of 25410
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post


1) I normally record everything at HQ, then edit & dub to DVD. Movies that run say 1hr 20m will convert to SP so it can fit onto DVD. I'm cool with that ! Should I record @ SP instead so as to take advantage of HS dub ? Since it will be converted to SP anyways. You've stated in the past about source material being best, like HQ.

But, if you are recording from cable, dubbing from a VHS tape, whatever, that is the "source material," not the HQ dub. The HQ dub can never be better than the source. (Well, okay, for VHS conversion, ANY dub will improve jitter.) It is better to record to the HDD at the same speed you will need to dub to disc, not just because a HS dub is quicker, but because it is lossless, and you have only encoded once, as opposed to encoding, decoding, then encoding again.

I'm not familiar with the Philips 75/76. Doesn't it have a recording rate between HQ and SP, that might be used for a 80 minute film? If not, then SP is the way to go.
post #1520 of 25410
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjbawc View Post

But, if you are recording from cable, dubbing from a VHS tape, whatever, that is the "source material," not the HQ dub. The HQ dub can never be better than the source. (Well, okay, for VHS conversion, ANY dub will improve jitter.) It is better to record to the HDD at the same speed you will need to dub to disc, not just because a HS dub is quicker, but because it is lossless, and you have only encoded once, as opposed to encoding, decoding, then encoding again.

I'm not familiar with the Philips 75/76. Doesn't it have a recording rate between HQ and SP, that might be used for a 80 minute film? If not, then SP is the way to go.

My question was, when I record to HDD the majority of the time I record in HQ. I was wondering if I should record at the speed that will eventually be Dubbed onto a DVD. Since my "source material" was HQ on my HDD, I would be compressing ?? that source material from HQ to SP to fit a 80 minute movie onto a DVD. If I would start with a source material of SP on my HDD then when I dubbed that same Movie I could utilize the high speed dub capabilities of the Philips.

The Philips 3575 that I own shows 6 recording modes.
HQ = 60min
SP = 120min
SPP=150min
LP =180min
EP =240min
SLP =360min

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.....It is better to record to the HDD at the same speed you will need to dub to disc.....

Seems to me you suggest to dub to DVD the best quality speed that fits onto the disc, instead of going from HQ encoding, decoding to SP when dubbing to DVD ???

Which in my example of a 80 min movie, means my source material should be SP.

Thanks

Steve
post #1521 of 25410
I understood your question. Yes, you should record to the HDD at the same speed you will have to dub to DVD at. As I said, that avoids one decode/encode cycle, and lets you do the more efficient high-speed dub.

With the recording speeds you list, yes, you will have to record at SP to fit an 80 minute film on a DVD. I have a Pio 640, and it is very flexible in setting recording speeds, with 5 or 10 minute increments. I thought yours might have a 90 minute recording speed, but no such luck!
post #1522 of 25410
Quote:
Originally Posted by wajo View Post

FYI since this seems to be coming up more often lately:

The very first user review in Google Checkout was by a self-proclaimed "Gearhead" who said this: "BAD BUILD QUALITY - I have had to return 6 of these with the same problem. They have defective S video inputs"!

He DID say that setup was "confusing" so I can easily guess that he didn't see the info on the Video Input being defaulted to Composite, and you have to SET that input to S-Video in the Video menu.

There are hundreds of posts in this thread, and I've personally heard from many more people via PM, and not one has complained about an S-Video input that was inoperable.

There is a very similar post in the Circuit City comments for the unit:

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Bad S video input
Reviewer: Maico from Mt. Pulaski Illinois on Apr 30, 2008
47 out of 64 found this review helpful

I have had to return 4 of these Philips recorders, They have bad S video inputs. The store has been very helpful and willing to exchange them to make me happy. Philips on the other hand has been one of the worst customer service companies I have ever seen! They don't want to admit that there is anything Wrong. I bet there is alot more of these that are bad because I can't beleive 4 in a row bad .

This really did give me pause when I was considering purchasing this unit, but I ended up buying it anyway. Luckily, now the first comment that shows at the Circuit City site (sorted by "Helpfulness") is titled "S-Video not enabled by Default".
post #1523 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by W.P. Wily View Post

There is a very similar post in the Circuit City comments for the unit:

This really did give me pause when I was considering purchasing this unit, but I ended up buying it anyway. Luckily, now the first comment that shows at the Circuit City site (sorted by "Helpfulness") is titled "S-Video not enabled by Default".

Same guy, same day, but he apparently forgot how many units he said he returned between his posts on Circuit City and Buzzilions.com... must have been "somehwere between 4 and 6"... or did he mean a CUMULATIVE TEN UNITS!

I really have to doubt there would be ANY OTHER person out there who wouldn't start thinking, "Could it be ME!?" Just in case, be aware that the default E1 (back) input is set for "Video In" (Composite Y/W/R), so if you connect S-Video to E1, you have to change the Setup > Video > Video Input menu to "S-Video In"!
post #1524 of 25410
Wow wajo, thanks for all the info!!! I've been thinking of purchasing this model from Sam's Club to replace my cable box. I'm going down to basic lifeline from TWC and was told with a QAM tuner, I can still see my digital stations in HD while available. Is this just as good as TiVo?
post #1525 of 25410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mujo View Post

Wow wajo, thanks for all the info!!! I've been thinking of purchasing this model from Sam's Club to replace my cable box. I'm going down to basic lifeline from TWC and was told with a QAM tuner, I can still see my digital stations in HD while available. Is this just as good as TiVo?

No, HD TIVO can tune and record in HD instead of SD like the Philips, and there's no neat TVG system like TIVO's where you "point-and-click" on a graphical display to select shows to record.

The 3575/76 is a basic SDTV HDD recorder great for timeshifting TV programs, copying home movies to DVD, basic editing, and multitasking for watching and recording simultaneously. It can also tune all analog channels, and any digital channels TWC sends in the clear which, in my TWC system, is 8 (got 14 for awhile), some HD altho downconverted to analog in my basic cable subscription. I get two ESPN-HD, Discovery HD, local CBS/NBC/FOX-HD, TNT-HD, and others.

It's also a good unit for an OTA antenna, where you'd prob. find many more HD channels if you lived near any large cities... at least you'd have that option if you ever wanted to ditch cable altogether. For OTA, you also wouldn't need a digital converter wherever you use a 3575/76.
post #1526 of 25410
For wajo:

Thanks for all the great information you've provided. I just happened across this forum yesterday and spent most of the night perusing it at work.
I've had my DVDR3575H/37 for a year now and love, LOVE, L-O-V-E it because it has never given me a moment's trouble - not even a coaster - unlike my first Philips single-disc recorder DVDR75 (I think) which I gave away to a coworker to give him something to tinker with.
The digital ATSC tuner for OTA is great! I even get to record and play the locals that broadcast in HD in 16:9 widescreen glory. The only thing I've not been able to do is pick up ANY digital cable channel via the QAM tuner as I always get a blue-screen. I'll try your trick to get around that and will report back on the success thereof.
Oh, by the way, I have firsthand knowledge of what happens when you violate the 'Divide Title before Scene Delete' scenario.

Thanks once again!
post #1527 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Stump, Glad to hear everything's great with your system... except for the "QAM" question!

Besides an antenna, do you also have cable TV, which would be the only way to get QAM channels?
post #1528 of 25410
Thanks for the reply, wajo.

Yes, I have Comcast analog cable (extended) but with no STB because we didn't want or need any scrambled channels or On Demand. I only use the OTA with an indoor antenna when there is something on that I'd like to view or record in HD (NASCAR races, reality shows on FOX, also recently the Olympics opening/closing ceremonies). The only way that I pick up any digital channels is to swap the connection from cable to the Philips hi-gain dual mast antenna.
While connected to cable, the channel scan (analog/digital) produces NO digital channels - all blue screen. I've not yet had time to try your trick to manually add the digital ones.
post #1529 of 25410
Thread Starter 
Stump, I think I've read of some users who got NO digital channel cuz they were ALL scrambled, and I'm not sure if they also had Comcast.

Anyway, it sounds like you have a TV with digital tuner? If so, the 3576 should be able to tune the same channels as the TV.

I assume you DO get some analog channels thru the Cable?

I've read of others lately trying to combine OTA antenna with cable (A-B switch for one) and I haven't heard an "elegant" solution or a Eureka! yet... it IS doable with a separate tuner, like one of the new converter boxes sold on the Govt coupon program... it can serve as the OTA tuner separate from the 3576 serving as the cable tuner. Sketch #1 here shows that kind of "optional" setup.
post #1530 of 25410
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Originally Posted by stump69 View Post

Thanks for the reply, wajo.
...
While connected to cable, the channel scan (analog/digital) produces NO digital channels - all blue screen. I've not yet had time to try your trick to manually add the digital ones.

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Stump, I think I've read of some users who got NO digital channel cuz they were ALL scrambled, and I'm not sure if they also had Comcast.
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Wajo, I know you know a lot more about this than I do, but I thought the 3575/6 didn't detect scrambled channels at all. Do you think there is any significance to the fact that he says he gets "blue screens"?
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