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I've been checking seller stock on our Mags for about a year, and recent posts elsewhere prompted me to reveal the method.

On first check of a site, click their "Add to Cart" button. Then use their Edit function to Update to a higher qty, like 1000, 2000 or more and the web page will revert to the qty in stock and available for order now.

On subsequent checks, I still use a high number even tho I know last time is was a lower qty available. Esp. important on Walmart site cuz they get/got regular shipments of additional units, so the qty would often be higher than 5 days ago or so. Amazon and J&R only accept 999 max., and often they won't ratchet down below that for some reason.


I haven't noted it here previously cuz early-on, some sellers would HOLD that stock in abeyance until some later time, and I didn't want hundreds of people potentially screwing up their order systems.

I've since noticed that seller web sites now say they WON'T hold your qty forever, or they give you an option, so they appear to have fixed their open-ended stock-freeze potential.

But, please, remember to Delete or Remove your phoney qty before leaving the site, just in case?

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Ok guys my 515 arrived today. After setting it up I noticed a huge difference in the tuner as compared to my now defunct Phillips 3575. It already found more DTV channels but I'm still fussing with it.

It there anything I should check or do to this thing out of the box?

Thanks.
post #15063 of 23783
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Ace, other than reading the help files as needed, you might want to start with the Default Settings recommended here?
post #15064 of 23783
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Originally Posted by ace5000 View Post

Ok guys my 515 arrived today. After setting it up I noticed a huge difference in the tuner as compared to my now defunct Phillips 3575. It already found more DTV channels but I'm still fussing with it.

It there anything I should check or do to this thing out of the box?

Thanks.

Write the serial number down on a piece of tape and stick it to the inside of the L2 input door. For some reason they decided to put it on the bottom of the recorder. If you ever need the S/N it's a pain in the butt getting to the bottom of the unit once everything is connected, especially if it's in a stack of other equipment.
post #15065 of 23783
My new 515 froze up. I was hoping this was just a problem with my other one. Now the problem with this new one is that the DVR it is connected to won't get adequate signal while the 515 is in it's 2 and one half hour unplugged wait for a reboot. Not a good thing to have to get behind the equipment and rearrange cables.
post #15066 of 23783
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post

1234,
I am reprogramming my Universal remote that I can create Macros on, and it reminded my to beg for a discrete "On: and a Discrete "OFF" for your next generation Mag.

A discrete On and a Discrete OFF will move the Mag into the "Professional Equipment Category" at least in my opinion it would.

Sorry but could you please explain what is "Macros on" and "Discrete on/off"?

1234-1000
post #15067 of 23783
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

My new 515 froze up. I was hoping this was just a problem with my other one. Now the problem with this new one is that the DVR it is connected to won't get adequate signal while the 515 is in it's 2 and one half hour unplugged wait for a reboot. Not a good thing to have to get behind the equipment and rearrange cables.

One of the side effects of an amplified pass through for the 515H rf signal is that power must be applied. When unplugged there is a signal loss. I don't have a number for amount of loss when unplugged. Could this be your problem?
post #15068 of 23783
{Sorry but could you please explain what is "Macros on" and "Discrete on/off"?}

234 - Macros - they are like mini computer programs. By pressing one key on my Universal remote I can turn on my tv, select the correct HDMI in port, turn on my Magnavox DVD rec order.

This is much more user friendly than having several remotes in front of me or pressing several key presses on one remote.

It also makes it easier for the "Wife" to turn on the DVD to play a DVD.

On my Universal remote model RF20 I first have to get keys on the Remote programmed for each discrete command. Then I select Macro learn and press each needed key and the Remote learns all these commands. It is really a nice feature which the Harmony also uses.

Now to the Discrete ON/OFF.

If in the above Macro scenario if I or the wife accidentally turns on the Mag via the front panel and/or the Mag 515 remote for what ever reason the next time I select my "ON" Macro the Universal remote will turn the TV on but will turn the Mag off since the mag has a combined on/off button. (Push it once on, push it again off - and so on)

My Samsung TV and also my Pioneer tv have a discrete on and a discrete off button.

If I press my Samsung discrete "On" the tv will turn on. If I press the discrete "On" again the tv will stay on it will not turn off. To turn the tv off I have to hit the discrete "OFF".

This keeps the macros from getting confused when a device with combined On/OFF is programmed into the Macro.

I believe Harmony has a work around and apparently remembers what the last state of a device was in. I do not have a Harmony and I doubt the remember state button would work anyway since I and the Wife each have a remote of our own and I do not think Harmony has yet implemented a method for two Harmony remotes in the same room to talk to each other and keep in sync - although I would like to see such a feature
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Well yes, that is the problem. It could be that my signal strength is already at a minimum- I've got a lot of splitters in the whole system. The loss through the 515 is probably the proverbial straw.

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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post
One of the side effects of an amplified pass through for the 515H rf signal is that power must be applied. When unplugged there is a signal loss. I don't have a number for amount of loss when unplugged. Could this be your problem?
post #15070 of 23783
Two Questions:

1. What button on the 515 remote is used to backup a recorded show a given amount of seconds. (I know that I can hit rewind but I thought I read a post that there is also a number of seconds rewind) Similar to setting number of seconds to fast forward thru commercials.

2. How do I quickly get to a show I have recorded on the hard drive? Say I am on page 5 of 26 pages of recorded shows. And I want to get to show number 47 which is presently on page 20 of 26. Is there a quick way to do it or do I have to keep hitting the arrow to move me from page to page and show to show in my HD directory?
post #15071 of 23783
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post
My new 515 froze up. I was hoping this was just a problem with my other one. Now the problem with this new one is that the DVR it is connected to won't get adequate signal while the 515 is in it's 2 and one half hour unplugged wait for a reboot. Not a good thing to have to get behind the equipment and rearrange cables.
Are you leaving it tuned to a analog channel rather than a digital channel?

I seem to remember that can cause freezes.
post #15072 of 23783
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post
Two Questions:

1. What button on the 515 remote is used to backup a recorded show a given amount of seconds. (I know that I can hit rewind but I thought I read a post that there is also a number of seconds rewind) Similar to setting number of seconds to fast forward thru commercials.
Use the large Replay button, bottom portion of the rocker button on right, below SKIP. That moves a specified number of secs that you set in the Setup > General Settings > Playback menu. I use 1 min. fwd and 15 sec back.

Here's a help file section
on Default Settings you should change.

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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post
2. How do I quickly get to a show I have recorded on the hard drive? Say I am on page 5 of 26 pages of recorded shows. And I want to get to show number 47 which is presently on page 20 of 26. Is there a quick way to do it or do I have to keep hitting the arrow to move me from page to page and show to show in my HD directory?
Use the chapter move buttons (next and prev) under the FF/REW buttons to go page-to-page. On DVDs you can use the left and right arrow keys (right arrow only on pg 1 of DVD titles).
post #15073 of 23783
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post
Well yes, that is the problem. It could be that my signal strength is already at a minimum- I've got a lot of splitters in the whole system. The loss through the 515 is probably the proverbial straw.
No, the 515 and all other Mag HDD units' active coax circuit AMPLIFIES the signal ~1dB thru the coax and line inputs... as long as it's plugged in with power... doesn't need to be ON. Typ. passive coax circuits LOSE ~1dB thru them.

Funai is working on a fix for the strange inability to turn on after use and other things. Be patient and say your prayers.
post #15074 of 23783
Ok I hadn't frequented the avsforum in quite a while, but while researching Logitech remotes recently I was reminded of the forum. I also was reminded of the reason I bought a Mag 2160 back in the fall of 2008 in the first place. It was because of the great information I got from this forum, especially from Wajo, when I was researching DVD recorders. I was saved from buying something that would have been very disappointing. Instead I bought the 2160 and it was so cool. I mean to go from video tape recording to a hard drive based recorder was a huge leap. Well after using the 2160 for almost a year I finally succumbed and got DirecTV. I still used my 2160 for a few months but eventually just did all my recording on the DTV dvr. After getting used to high definition I guess I kind of lost interest in sd. At the time it seemed like these recorders were becoming obsolete and would not be manufactured anymore. Then I notice that there is a 515 model with a 500GB hard drive compared to my measly 160GB drive. What I was wondering, is there any difference between the 515 and the older units such as the 2160? Any new features other than a bigger hard drive? And why don't they make a high def. version. Is it because of the editing capabilities?

Anyway, I've been inspired to revisit my 2160 and put it to use again. Just would be nice to have an HD version.
post #15075 of 23783
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post
No, the 515 and all other Mag HDD units' active coax circuit AMPLIFIES the signal ~1dB thru the coax and line inputs... as long as it's plugged in with power... doesn't need to be ON. Typ. passive coax circuits LOSE ~1dB thru them.

Funai is working on a fix for the strange inability to turn on after use and other things. Be patient and say your prayers.
I am guessing. He posted: "Now the problem with this new one is that the DVR it is connected to won't get adequate signal while the 515 is in it's 2 and one half hour unplugged wait for a reboot."

I took that to mean it was unplugged and all devices after it were affected.

I think passive splitters lose more than 1 db. Maybe 8? Both ways too. I have no figure on the loss through an old VCR or anyway to measure it. Every 3db drops signal 50%. But it makes sense that the amplification is only 1db since I see no change it my TV SNR when fed via the 515H. The TV may not be that sensitive. Perhapes 234 could give us real numbers? Or I could plug my 2160A into the 515H and see what the Display button indicates?
post #15076 of 23783
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rta, there's a comparison chart here.

The DVD std requires a 480i source and was developed from the older VHS std. Since our units are built for making DVDs as an integral function, they adhere to the DVD std.

We have a Wish List for a new HDD/BRD recorder here that Funai might be reading. Results TBD.

Current HD recorders can be found here.
post #15077 of 23783
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post
I am guessing. He posted: "Now the problem with this new one is that the DVR it is connected to won't get adequate signal while the 515 is in it's 2 and one half hour unplugged wait for a reboot."

I took that to mean it was unplugged and all devices after it were affected.

I think passive splitters lose more than 1 db. Maybe 8? Both ways too. I have no figure on the loss through an old VCR or anyway to measure it. Every 3db drops signal 50%. But it makes sense that the amplification is only 1db since I see no change it my TV SNR when fed via the 515H. The TV may not be that sensitive. Perhapes 234 could give us real numbers? Or I could plug my 2160A into the 515H and see what the Display button indicates?
A VHS coax circuit has been measured at less than 1dB, as described here.

A link to that post is in the Connections help file along with other links to passive vs active info, as listed here.

Lots of info available in the help files.
post #15078 of 23783
rta53,

For starters the 515 has capability of adding names to timed recordings which is a real nice feature in my book. Also a better remote. Did yours allow pause of real time shows? The 515 does. Well that is a few diffs and I am sure Wajo has a million more

BTW- I like HD also. For one reason why SD, HD would eat up a lot of space on the hard drive. Not sure if it is harder to dump to a Hard drive or not.

One thing that bugs me with HD tv is that the producers seem to not take full advantage of what it is capable of. I am starting to see a lot of fuzzy backgrounds again. When HD first hit broad cast tv the backgrounds were as clear as foreground making it look almost 3D. Of course I know that there are various reasons for doing this including pulling the viewers attention to the foreground instead of the background.
post #15079 of 23783
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post

One thing that bugs me with HD tv is that the producers seem to not take full advantage of what it is capable of. I am starting to see a lot of fuzzy backgrounds again.

Plus, they've been watering it down over time, so that a lot of it just looks like widescreen SD, anyway.
post #15080 of 23783
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

A VHS coax circuit has been measured at less than 1dB, as described here.

A link to that post is in the Connections help file along with other links to passive vs active info, as listed here.

Lots of info available in the help files.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...#specification

I'll double check my facts next time.
post #15081 of 23783
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

rta, there's a comparison chart here.

The DVD std requires a 480i source and was developed from the older VHS std. Since our units are built for making DVDs as an integral function, they adhere to the DVD std.

We have a Wish List for a new HDD/BRD recorder here that Funai might be reading. Results TBD.

Current HD recorders can be found here.

Great info as usual wajo. Now if I can just convince my wife why I need another recorder. What about the 1080p up convert. What exactly does that do?
post #15082 of 23783
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

Great info as usual wajo. Now if I can just convince my wife why I need another recorder. What about the 1080p up convert. What exactly does that do?

That upconverts the 480i tuner, HDD titles and DVD titles from std def to one of the HD pixel formats/resolutions, 720p, 1080i or 1080p. However, all signals from DVD recorders start as 480i, the format reqd by the DVD std, so the info is no longer true/pure HD.

More on Upconverting here.

More on recording quality here.
post #15083 of 23783
No what I meant is that while the 515 was without power waiting for a reboot, there was inadequate signal strength going through to my DVR.

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

No, the 515 and all other Mag HDD units' active coax circuit AMPLIFIES the signal ~1dB thru the coax and line inputs... as long as it's plugged in with power... doesn't need to be ON. Typ. passive coax circuits LOSE ~1dB thru them.

Funai is working on a fix for the strange inability to turn on after use and other things. Be patient and say your prayers.
post #15084 of 23783
Just got my HDMI to composite/s-video converter. It's the AGPtek® HDMI to Composite 3RCA / S-video Converter Adapter from AmazonBrainyDeal. I was very nervous about it's ability to strip copy protection. Well, it does and it doesn't. Some premium channels can't be tuned in, some can. However, and importantly for me, there is no issue of copying any premium material that I have recorded to my DVR. Not sure why this is, but I am happy it does so. Maybe someone knows why this is.

Picture quality seems fine... for sd.
post #15085 of 23783
Wajo? Any comment on this? I don't remember reading anything about that.

So far my freezes have been during start up while loading a disc and when I was doing a channel scan and a couple of other times that I can't remember what was going on.

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Originally Posted by TBoneit View Post

Are you leaving it tuned to a analog channel rather than a digital channel?

I seem to remember that can cause freezes.
post #15086 of 23783
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

Wajo? Any comment on this? I don't remember reading anything about that.

So far my freezes have been during start up while loading a disc and when I was doing a channel scan and a couple of other times that I can't remember what was going on.

Some people posted that it made a diff. on their "problematic" units if they turned them off on an analog vs digital channel. I believe leaving it on a digital channel worked better.

That plays into a long-standing "analog interference" problem exhibited in some cable systems, to the point that I thought the cablecos might have found a way to screw up our DVDRs' switched analog/digital hybrid tuners... IMO, it fit right into a long storyline of cablecos' lying and dirty-tricking business model, starting in 2007 with "You can't tune ANY channels unless you rent our box." Right.

In fact, if you don't have some analog channels you really need, it might be interesting to use Manual channel Preset to delete ALL your analog channels and see if any diff.?
post #15087 of 23783
You guys keep referring to analog channels. I didn't think there were any more analog channels. What are you referring to?
post #15088 of 23783
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

You guys keep referring to analog channels. I didn't think there were any more analog channels. What are you referring to?

Antenna/OTA has *no* analogs, but cable TV still has analog channels... prob. also on their way out tho.

I get 61 analogs and 15 or so digital or digital/HD in my Basic Broadcast cable sub.
post #15089 of 23783
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

You guys keep referring to analog channels. I didn't think there were any more analog channels. What are you referring to?

It's a cable thing. But low power and educational analog stations are allowed to exist.
post #15090 of 23783
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

In fact, if you don't have some analog channels you really need, it might be interesting to use Manual channel Preset to delete ALL your analog channels and see if any diff.?

I have used manual preset to delete all analog and digital channels. Clock is set to auto. I should be ok, right?
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