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post #16651 of 23783
11/2/11 at 2:58pm
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TV123 might not want to add any ident. yet just in case a return might be reqd ?

There's still an open question whether or not these DVDRs can be returned to a previous FW after a machine takes on the newer/different Model No. TV123 just *might* be the first here who has to answer that question if his problem continues?

IMO, IF the FW can be "reversed" it should take OK. If not, I believe it'll just spit the FW disc out?

I think answering that reversal question is an important element in deciding whether ot not to update, i.e., peace-of-mind if possible to reverse.

You're hurting me. But I'm here for you. Yes, I just performed the 2160A update for the finalize cure. No problem. I had to do the rescan and verify the date. My schedule was wiped, but titles were not harmed. Going to the V2160A was the same. I set it to auto clock to test PBS tonight.

I have no problems. I never did, but just want to help. I'll switch back (up) tomorrow. In summary, you can apply either update at any time but can not go back to the factory firmware. Someone else will have to prove me wrong on that.
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post #16652 of 23783
11/2/11 at 3:01pm
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You're hurting me. But I'm here for you. Yes, I just performed the 2160A update for the finalize cure. No problem. I had to do the rescan and verify the date. My schedule was wiped, but titles were not harmed. Going to the V2160A was the same. I set it to auto clock to test PBS tonight.

I have no problems. I never did, but just want to help. I'll switch back (up) tomorrow. In summary, you can apply either update at any time but can not go back to the factory firmware. Someone else will have to prove me wrong on that.

So you had prev. updated your 2160A to 727V, and now reverted back to 72A, and everything works OK so far?

What does SKIP 123 show as your Model No. now with 72A?
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post #16653 of 23783
11/2/11 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

so you had prev. Updated your 2160a to 727v, and now reverted back to 72a, and everything works ok so far?

What does skip 123 show as your model no. Now with 72a?

10-4

Model after 2160A downgrade: E2S00UD
After V2160A: E2S02UD

Sorry for the delay, but the 2160A is upstairs. We good?
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post #16654 of 23783
11/2/11 at 3:23pm
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10-4

Model after 2160A downgrade: E2S00UD
After V2160A: E2S02UD

Sorry for the delay, but the 2160A is upstairs. We good?

It even reverted to its old Model No.

We're GREAT! For everyone here, THANKS!
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post #16655 of 23783
11/2/11 at 3:50pm
The next question...can a 515 be downgraded to 2160A 72A level?
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post #16656 of 23783
11/2/11 at 4:13pm
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The next question...can a 515 be downgraded to 2160A 72A level?

I will gladly test that when the replacement for the 515H is selling for $200. Or when somebody finds a way to get back to factory defaults.
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post #16657 of 23783
11/2/11 at 4:34pm
I remember when we all were waiting for the DTV PAL DVR by Dish TV which failed. So it was nice to learn of the Magnavox 500GB DVR and DVD Recorder MDR515H - Refurbished for JR. Been looking for one of these for years but figured they would never come since Comcast now offers it on their digital cable. I'm not in cable so ordered one, anything i should know before getting it and hooking it up? Shame i'm starting to watch little tv, less and less since learned about Justin TV.
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post #16658 of 23783
11/2/11 at 4:39pm
A friend was looking for a new recorder and I suggested a Maggie. Don't know if he got the 513 or the 515 but he loves it.

Thing is, here's a question I can't answer for him:

He's currently using it with a standard def 4x3 set, but when the time comes to switch to a widescreen set, what will happen to his old recordings, especially if he then tells the machine it's now working with a widescreen TV? How will the old recordings, meant for a 4x3 screen, play on the widescreen set?
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post #16659 of 23783
11/2/11 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

I remember when we all were waiting for the DTV PAL DVR by Dish TV which failed. So it was nice to learn of the Magnavox 500GB DVR and DVD Recorder MDR515H - Refurbished for JR. Been looking for one of these for years but figured they would never come since Comcast now offers it on their digital cable. I'm not in cable so ordered one, anything i should know before getting it and hooking it up? Shame i'm starting to watch little tv, less and less since learned about Justin TV.

1. The disc tray won't open until you go thru the setup procedure in the menus.
2. You won't see the menu overlays in the coax output. You have to use the line out (composite/s-video/component/HDMI).

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post #16660 of 23783
11/2/11 at 4:50pm
So I tried connecting my Roku output to my 3576 to record some content. Hulu Plus worked fine, but Netflix and Amazon Instant Video gave the error "Unable to Record" (E26 message, I believe).

So I searched around my storage closet and found my old SIMA Video CopyMaster that I had used way back to clean up the signals dubbing from one VCR to another. I hooked it up and my Amazon Instant Video signal was now able to be recorded...YAY

However, Netflix still produces the copyright error. Does anyone have any success recording Netflix content with another brand of stabilizer? Which one?
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post #16661 of 23783
11/2/11 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

A friend was looking for a new recorder and I suggested a Maggie. Don't know if he got the 513 or the 515 but he loves it.

Thing is, here's a question I can't answer for him:

He's currently using it with a standard def 4x3 set, but when the time comes to switch to a widescreen set, what will happen to his old recordings, especially if he then tells the machine it's now working with a widescreen TV? How will the old recordings, meant for a 4x3 screen, play on the widescreen set?

I'm in the same boat. My display connected to my 3576 is 4x3, yet I have my 3576 set to widescreen format. When I recorded widescreen Hulu content from my Roku, for example, I set the Roku to widescreen output as well, and the image on my 4x3 screen looks stretched top to bottom, and no black bars. I'm hoping that playing the DVD on a widescreen TV will look normal. It unfortunately didn't look right on my computer DVD player.
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post #16662 of 23783
11/2/11 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

A friend was looking for a new recorder and I suggested a Maggie. Don't know if he got the 513 or the 515 but he loves it.

Thing is, here's a question I can't answer for him:

He's currently using it with a standard def 4x3 set, but when the time comes to switch to a widescreen set, what will happen to his old recordings, especially if he then tells the machine it's now working with a widescreen TV? How will the old recordings, meant for a 4x3 screen, play on the widescreen set?

Here's my advice in the Aspect Ratio help file:

"Bottom Line: Set this DVDR's "TV Aspect" for 16:9 Wide for ALL your recordings, no matter which type of TV you have now. Prevents that "pissed-off" feeling if you don't have a 16:9 HDTV now but get one later!!!"

More in that help file on what he'll see and why, etc.
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post #16663 of 23783
11/2/11 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

I remember when we all were waiting for the DTV PAL DVR by Dish TV which failed. So it was nice to learn of the Magnavox 500GB DVR and DVD Recorder MDR515H - Refurbished for JR. Been looking for one of these for years but figured they would never come since Comcast now offers it on their digital cable. I'm not in cable so ordered one, anything i should know before getting it and hooking it up? Shame i'm starting to watch little tv, less and less since learned about Justin TV.

11 things right off the bat, as listed here in the first Quote Note. Then, the rest of the index list of help files, as needed.
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post #16664 of 23783
11/2/11 at 5:37pm
After reading the posts here about hard drive scarcity I happened to get a circular from Micro Center yesterday. They usually list about a hundred drives but the new circular listed none. I got curious about this so I went to Micro Center at lunch to check it out. There are usually lots of good deals on HDD's, but there were absolutely no sales on anything. They are also limiting sales to 2 at one time.

Strangely enough, I was there on Saturday and was thinking of getting another WD Green 500GB drive for my eSATA. They've been around $45 for at least the last year, but I decided to put it off. Today they are going for $85.

I can't really see this scarcity lasting a long time, no matter what panicky news articles say. The electronics industry has a habit of filling a vacuum very quickly.
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post #16665 of 23783
11/2/11 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by dare2be View Post

I'm in the same boat. My display connected to my 3576 is 4x3, yet I have my 3576 set to widescreen format. When I recorded widescreen Hulu content from my Roku, for example, I set the Roku to widescreen output as well, and the image on my 4x3 screen looks stretched top to bottom, and no black bars. I'm hoping that playing the DVD on a widescreen TV will look normal. It unfortunately didn't look right on my computer DVD player.

I've read many posts about playing WS on a computer... needs the WS bit set, however that's done... supposed to be really simple.

A computer sees all our recordings as "4:3" cuz that's exactly what the frame is per the DVD Std. It's what's INSIDE that frame that allows out TV's to stretch the pic to natural WS 16:9, as described here.
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post #16666 of 23783
11/2/11 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

I can't really see this scarcity lasting a long time, no matter what panicky news articles say. The electronics industry has a habit of filling a vacuum very quickly.

Lets hope you are right but I have the feeling it's going to be like the price of gasoline. Shoots up like a rocket at the smallest hiccup then nickel and dimes its way back down once the supply is righted.
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post #16667 of 23783
11/3/11 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

..."Bottom Line: Set this DVDR's "TV Aspect" for 16:9 Wide for ALL your recordings, no matter which type of TV you have now. Prevents that "pissed-off" feeling if you don't have a 16:9 HDTV now but get one later!!!"...

LOL! Thanks Wajo.

(Oh well.... )
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post #16668 of 23783
11/3/11 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by dare2be View Post

1. The disc tray won't open until you go thru the setup procedure in the menus.
2. You won't see the menu overlays in the coax output. You have to use the line out (composite/s-video/component/HDMI).

Next...

So i'm going to need to order cables from monoprice is what your saying? Is there a HDMI connection that does it all? I only got this to record Tv shows, no family movies. My setup is Broadcast Antenna, Samsung Blue Ray Player, Kentech Labs sound bar, Hitachi 32" 720P HDTV, all controlled by Harmony 880 remote.
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post #16669 of 23783
11/3/11 at 9:49am
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Lets hope you are right but I have the feeling it's going to be like the price of gasoline. Shoots up like a rocket at the smallest hiccup then nickel and dimes its way back down once the supply is righted.

Aren't we at the end of spinning disc HDs and welcoming in Solid State HDs.
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post #16670 of 23783
11/3/11 at 9:57am
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So i'm going to need to order cables from monoprice is what your saying?

Check out HDMI cable prices at www.amazon.com & www.summitsource.com as well. I've bought from both.

OTOH, I returned the LKV-7611 component to composite converter I bought from Monoprice twice. The 3rd while technically functional is unusable for entirely different reasons than the first two were. Its output gamma is awful, and it produces a sickly color shift. It's sole value is as a copy protection defeat, but the resulting recordings aren't anything anyone with any interest in quality would ever want to watch more than once.
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post #16671 of 23783
11/3/11 at 9:59am
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Aren't we at the end of spinning disc HDs and welcoming in Solid State HDs.

Until the life expectancy disparity is but a memory, I don't think HDs will be going away.
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post #16672 of 23783
11/3/11 at 10:06am
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So i'm going to need to order cables from monoprice is what your saying? Is there a HDMI connection that does it all?

There should've been composite cables included with the recorder. Yellow video, red/white audio. Use those to setup the unit until you get your HDMI cable.
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post #16673 of 23783
11/3/11 at 10:11am
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Aren't we at the end of spinning disc HDs and welcoming in Solid State HDs.

Not at current prices and capacity. And the fact that they wear out when being written to doesn't help their case.
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post #16674 of 23783
11/3/11 at 10:16am
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Aren't we at the end of spinning disc HDs and welcoming in Solid State HDs.

Even with the price rise on hard drives they're cheaper per Gigabyte.
I've seen 60 to 64Gb SSDs on sale around $100, Normal price for a 300Gb is over $500 last time I looked.

SSDs are best used where most accesses are reads and not writes.

I'm using them as boot drives for the speed since most of the time the access is for reads. Only writes are when Windows shuts down and saves things and email. I use a separate Data drive.

They work best with Windows 7 and I believe the latest Mac OS has also added TRIM support.

I think of them in the main as being like a sports car. They need more attention and are speedier to use. Intel for example says to run it's toolbox once a week to ensure performance.

If you were to use one in a Magnavox and leave it always on where the drive is always being written to, The life would be short.
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post #16675 of 23783
11/3/11 at 2:12pm
Closed captioning issue. I like to have this from time to time especially for Brit imports. What is happening though is that CC is rather hit and miss. Sometimes it is working sometimes it is not on both recordings to disk and recordings to HDD. Since it is working some times, I obviously have the setting done correctly. No difference between digital and analog.

Anyone experience similar problems?
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post #16676 of 23783
11/3/11 at 6:29pm
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Closed captioning issue. I like to have this from time to time especially for Brit imports. What is happening though is that CC is rather hit and miss. Sometimes it is working sometimes it is not on both recordings to disk and recordings to HDD. Since it is working some times, I obviously have the setting done correctly. No difference between digital and analog.

Anyone experience similar problems?

I would turn on CC on your TV so you can verify that the CC is being sent via the live feed before starting recording, and then play back the recording from the HDD to verify that the CC info is being saved. If it isn't, then it's the Mag that is stripping the CC info when recording. Perhaps some of the programs you are recording don't have the CC to begin with.
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post #16677 of 23783
11/3/11 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

Closed captioning issue. I like to have this from time to time especially for Brit imports. What is happening though is that CC is rather hit and miss. Sometimes it is working sometimes it is not on both recordings to disk and recordings to HDD. Since it is working some times, I obviously have the setting done correctly. No difference between digital and analog.

Anyone experience similar problems?

I might question the difference between analog and digital. Digital needs SCTE-127, analog uses the VBI for transport. But, yes, first check that the content is correct by using your TV. No doubt your settings are ok, but the content may be bad. CC is just as bad as WS when it comes to testing. Both are a royal PITA.

I know you meant the results are the same between analog and digital. Your provider may not have things set right to convert the digital to analog, or there may be nothing to convert.
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post #16678 of 23783
11/4/11 at 6:54am
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Aren't we at the end of spinning disc HDs and welcoming in Solid State HDs.

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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

Until the life expectancy disparity is but a memory, I don't think HDs will be going away.

Solid State drives will catch on if enough people are there to pay the "opening" cost. I for one have already contributed to the "computer" and "DVD/HD recorder" industry enough.

I occasionaly try to purchase a thumb drive for the novelty. There is one thing to take into consideration with solid state and that is heat. They have been getting the heat down to the mininum in "platter/spinning" drives quite nicely. Solid state is going back to the "electric heater" principle. The closer electrons are to each other and the faster they move, the more heat is created. Getting 3Tb of close memory chips is going to be the hurdle. I think that Solid State drives will see more usage in "cooler" running computers and platter drives becoming more external, until they can figure out the heat issue. I did get a 16 Gig USB thumb drive for $20.00 and it is very light and has no heat issues at all. That was $30.00 off the normal price. Space and price wise though 16@$20 and 500@$60 are still a big disparity.
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post #16679 of 23783
11/4/11 at 7:11am
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Solid State drives will catch on if enough people are there to pay the "opening" cost. I for one have already contributed to the "computer" and "DVD/HD recorder" industry enough.

I occasionaly try to purchase a thumb drive for the novelty. There is one thing to take into consideration with solid state and that is heat. They have been getting the heat down to the mininum in "platter/spinning" drives quite nicely. Solid state is going back to the "electric heater" principle. The closer electrons are to each other and the faster they move, the more heat is created. Getting 3Tb of close memory chips is going to be the hurdle. I think that Solid State drives will see more usage in "cooler" running computers and platter drives becoming more external, until they can figure out the heat issue. I did get a 16 Gig USB thumb drive for $20.00 and it is very light and has no heat issues at all. That was $30.00 off the normal price. Space and price wise though 16@$20 and 500@$60 are still a big disparity.

I must side with you on this issue. I have a few USB memory sticks. Perhaps the next gen of Mag will include a USB port for those who want to achive their content. It's very nice to plug a 16GB drive into the front of my Blu-ray and have a lot of music under my control. They're just so easy to use. I like anything without moving parts. Hmmm. I wonder what that says about my personality?
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post #16680 of 23783
11/4/11 at 7:15am
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I must side with you on this issue. I have a few USB memory sticks. Perhaps the next gen of Mag will include a USB port for those who want to achive their content. It's very nice to plug a 16GB drive into the front of my Blu-ray and have a lot of music under my control. They're just so easy to use. I like anything without moving parts. Hmmm. I wonder what that says about my personality?

Stick in the mud?
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