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post #16741 of 23781
11/6/11 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

You need a SATA-USB converter that's powered, like this one.

I tried to get people interested in trying this awhile back, but they just asked me to stop talking about it. I hope you get this to work so I can go to my local OfficeMax and get external, prepackaged, docking USB HDDs!

Hi Wajo,
Thanks for the reply.
I tried the Sabrent USB-SATA converter, but note the power portion of that converter is actually a 15-PIN SATA power connector.
I powered the USB using a Y- USB connector (regular USB plug + mini USB ), hooked one USB plug to a powered USB HUB, and the HDD is spinning, it is powered and running, but the Magnavox DVDR still doesn't detect it - HDD CONNECT STATUS: NOT FOUND
regards,
Mario
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post #16742 of 23781
11/6/11 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by m.guedes View Post

Hi Wajo,
Thanks for the reply.
I tried the Sabrent USB-SATA converter, but note the power portion of that converter is actually a 15-PIN SATA power connector.
I powered the USB using a Y- USB connector (regular USB plug + mini USB ), hooked one USB plug to a powered USB HUB, and the HDD is spinning, it is powered and running, but the Magnavox DVDR still doesn't detect it - HDD CONNECT STATUS: NOT FOUND
regards,
Mario

Well, I did say "like."

Anyway, I believe the external drive needs to get its power from the Mag since the HDD is started up, shut down, spun, recorded to, intermittently buffered to, etc. via the Mag OS, so I doubt that it can see a HDD that it's integrated power supply/PCB doesn't control, i.e. one that's just constantly spinning independent of the Mag?

Someone on another forum used a Sabrent for his PC but said he was jealous of his buddy who used a Rosewill. Here's one LIKE the one you might need, says it has a SATA power adapter. Make sure to check the number of pins on the power adapter/cable.

Back when I was talking about doing this, I knew it would be "tricky" with plugs, power, etc. but very much worth it if someone could get it to work! We could also find out if it works at low speed, full speed or high speed (2Mbps, 12Mbps or 480Mbps) with the Mag.

My computer-averse wife/CFO could dock and undock an external, prepackaged USB HDD, and several brands of those drives are available from a store near me! It's C&C (Clean & Convenient) like this 2.5" GoFlex® Pro w/Paramount Simple Dock & Case!

According to gm2040 below, the USB-attached drive must be 5V, so you must use a 2.5" HDD LIKE the Hitachi Travelstar 7K500 or the one Auskck used in his dock-and-play system, the 2.5" Travelstar 5K500.B. Both drives are SATA interface.

See this Wiki article on USB power reqmts, esp. the part on "low-power" devices (such as a 5V 2.5" HDD, which fits the USB power profile perfectly).

Many of these HDDs now come prepackaged w/SW so might have to format FAT32 before attaching?

Note: ALL HDDs are exorbitantly priced and qty-limited right now due to flooding in Taiwan.

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post #16743 of 23781
11/6/11 at 9:38am
Thanks, Wajo. Missed your earlier response by a few minutes And thanks, MrMazda ... going to download firmware update now...

The flooding in Thailand was awful - not sure when the drive manufacturing will get back online. Prices are up up and away -- even existing inventory has skyrocketed and there's a lot of price gouging on the old stock. Glad to have a few unopened boxes here (two for computers, one saved for recorder)

Your CFO isn't the only one who would be delighted with external USB drive option.I've been waiting patiently for one to 'materialize' ... being able to swap the drive easily for another would be fabulous. That said, I'm too spoiled by my 515 to not want to upgrade the 2160A original drive, so I probably will (finally) take the plunge.
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post #16744 of 23781
11/6/11 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by m.guedes View Post

Hi Wajo,
Thanks for the reply.
I tried the Sabrent USB-SATA converter, but note the power portion of that converter is actually a 15-PIN SATA power connector.
I powered the USB using a Y- USB connector (regular USB plug + mini USB ), hooked one USB plug to a powered USB HUB, and the HDD is spinning, it is powered and running, but the Magnavox DVDR still doesn't detect it - HDD CONNECT STATUS: NOT FOUND
regards,
Mario

Are you trying to run a USB cable from the inside of the 515 to the outside so you can power external hdd's? A 3.5" hdd requires 12v and a 2.5" hdd 5v. I believe USB ports can only handle 5v. If you connected a 3.5" hdd via 1 usb port, it probably spun but wasn't getting the correct voltage.

gm2040
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post #16745 of 23781
11/6/11 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by m.guedes View Post

......I powered the USB using a Y- USB connector (regular USB plug + mini USB ), hooked one USB plug to a powered USB HUB, and the HDD is spinning, it is powered and running, but the Magnavox DVDR still doesn't detect it - HDD CONNECT STATUS: NOT FOUND.......

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

........Someone on another forum used a Sabrent for his PC but said he was jealous of his buddy who used a Rosewill. Here's one LIKE the one you might need, says it has a SATA power adapter.........

These type adapters are designed for use with computers having a USB port and USB controller chipset/software.
The Magnavox HDD/DVD DVR's do not currently incorporate these components or firmware.

The best solution for "larger storage" in the "Maggie" , is the "External Dock & Play Systems" described here.
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PS - Keep in mind, regardless of the external HDD capacity, a "Maggie" can only recognize/use 500GB.
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post #16746 of 23781
11/6/11 at 10:37am
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Deja vu all over again!
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post #16747 of 23781
11/6/11 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by artwire View Post

Thanks, Wajo. Missed your earlier response by a few minutes

Ha, I wondered why you posted this until I noticed I quoted you in my post (since deleted) that you responded to instead of the intended m.guedes!
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post #16748 of 23781
11/6/11 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Sometimes my receiver doesn't switch to the correct input when using my Harmony remote. I think it's an inter-device delay problem that I haven't got ironed out yet. Is there any chance something like that happened?

BTW, don't use the Harmony to turn everything off during a manual recording. Timer recordings are not canceled by the power toggle signal but manual recordings are.

I've had the same problem with device not being switched to the correct input. The harmony sends the command for the input change before the device is ready to receive it. I just add the command a second time to the end of the activity. Since I "watch tv" more than any other activity, I add commands to the power off sequence to set all tv related devices back to the correct input.
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post #16749 of 23781
11/6/11 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

I've had the same problem with device not being switched to the correct input. The harmony sends the command for the input change before the device is ready to receive it. I just add the command a second time to the end of the activity. Since I "watch tv" more than any other activity, I add commands to the power off sequence to set all tv related devices back to the correct input.

The receiver just doesn't like to see the IR signals for other devices. When it sees an IR signal that it doesn't recognize it stops responding to all IR signals for a few seconds.
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post #16750 of 23781
11/6/11 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

The receiver just doesn't like to see the IR signals for other devices. When it sees an IR signal that it doesn't recognize it stops responding to all IR signals for a few seconds.

I wonder if that explains why my [V]2160A did and does sometimes refuse to acknowledge when I press the remote's title key. Usually when that happens I have to cycle its power to get the title menu to open.
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post #16751 of 23781
11/6/11 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Sometimes my receiver doesn't switch to the correct input when using my Harmony remote. I think it's an inter-device delay problem that I haven't got ironed out yet. Is there any chance something like that happened?

BTW, don't use the Harmony to turn everything off during a manual recording. Timer recordings are not canceled by the power toggle signal but manual recordings are.

I checked the receiver's settings multiple times. I switched to other inputs, then switched back to the V513. In every case the screen was just blank.
I've since tried the sequence during another timer recording and it worked perfectly. I'll put this down to a temporary glitch. I'll post an update if it happens again.
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post #16752 of 23781
11/6/11 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Deja vu all over again!

I know But there is no adapter that I know of can do what you want do.
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post #16753 of 23781
11/7/11 at 12:34am
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

The receiver just doesn't like to see the IR signals for other devices. When it sees an IR signal that it doesn't recognize it stops responding to all IR signals for a few seconds.

That was not how my H2160A reacts to IR signals for other devices. I use the Harmony and don't recall ever having this problem during power off/on and switching activities or using other commands in between.
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post #16754 of 23781
11/7/11 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Deja vu all over again!

I thought that USB as a connection for swapping drives was an item on the Wish list?

USB connected devices have never worked.

The only connection that will work is ESATA, or (external) Sata. "If" an external drive is "lucky" enough to have an Esata port allowing this type of connection it will work just fine. I would not hold my breath though, since USB3 will be the preference in the future, and ESATA port drives will only be found re-furbished or currently on the shelves of "less visited" computer stores. That train has already left the station.

It may be possible in the future to have a USB3 and Esata converter that may work, but a USB and sata converter has never been found that will work.
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post #16755 of 23781
11/7/11 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

The receiver just doesn't like to see the IR signals for other devices. When it sees an IR signal that it doesn't recognize it stops responding to all IR signals for a few seconds.

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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

I wonder if that explains why my [V]2160A did and does sometimes refuse to acknowledge when I press the remote's title key. Usually when that happens I have to cycle its power to get the title menu to open.

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Originally Posted by bodhi78 View Post

That was not how my H2160A reacts to IR signals for other devices.

My V513 and 515 are not affected by IR signals intended for other components. It's the AV receiver that doesn't like to see IR signals intended for the Magnavox recorder and other components in the room. I only mentioned it because dundakitty said "While the V513 was recording the HDMI output was just a black screen." I thought his black screen might be caused by his receiver not switching to the correct input. It appears that is not what caused his black screen. I apologize for any confusion.
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post #16756 of 23781
11/7/11 at 10:33am
OK, set it up and ran through the menu. Did the channel scan and set to record tonight. One thing i can't find is how we check on the version of firmeware that is installed?

I set the clock manual then after setting the time switched it to auto, figured i would give it a try since i'm in NY and everything in the house with a auto clock set has worked with 13 PBS.
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post #16757 of 23781
11/7/11 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

My V513 and 515 are not affected by IR signals intended for other components. It's the AV receiver that doesn't like to see IR signals intended for the Magnavox recorder and other components in the room. I only mentioned it because dundakitty said "While the V513 was recording the HDMI output was just a black screen." I thought his black screen might be caused by his receiver not switching to the correct input. It appears that is not what caused his black screen. I apologize for any confusion.

It's good to know, I've seen this problem in some other components, too (hence the concern). Some even turns ON when receiving IR commands from totally different devices!
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post #16758 of 23781
11/7/11 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

OK, set it up and ran through the menu. Did the channel scan and set to record tonight. One thing i can't find is how we check on the version of firmeware that is installed?

I set the clock manual then after setting the time switched it to auto, figured i would give it a try since i'm in NY and everything in the house with a auto clock set has worked with 13 PBS.

Search for "version" or "FW VERSIONS" on the first page. You can find answer to most of the questions on 1st page's table of content.
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post #16759 of 23781
11/8/11 at 12:32pm
Can the 515 play faster than normal speed WITH sound like the Panasonic's 1.3 on the play button or the Pio search 1 option?
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post #16760 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by joekoler View Post

Can the 515 play faster than normal speed WITH sound like the Panasonic's 1.3 on the play button or the Pio search 1 option?

Yes, it plays both 1.3 faster and 0.8 slower with sound.
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post #16761 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:06pm
Hi I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
I understand that the 515H records in SD/480 resolution
But if I'm watching live television with the clear QAM tuner (local HD channel) on the unit, does it display that in full HD quality?
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post #16762 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by thedealman View Post

Hi I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
I understand that the 515H records in SD/480 resolution
But if I'm watching live television with the clear QAM tuner (local HD channel) on the unit, does it display that in full HD quality?

The HD signal will be down-converted to 480 for all recording and playback. If you use a HDMI cable to connect the recorder to your TV you can up-convert to HD up to 1080P.
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post #16763 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Yes, it plays both 1.3 faster and 0.8 slower with sound.

Thanks for the answer. Is that true for both HDD recordings and DVD's? My Panasonic can't do that on finalized DVD's.
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post #16764 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by joekoler View Post

Thanks for the answer. Is that true for both HDD recordings and DVD's? My Panasonic can't do that on finalized DVD's.

Yes it can. I tested it with a finalized DVD-R recording made on my 515 and a commercial DVD (28 Days Later).
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post #16765 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Yes it can. I tested it with a finalized DVD-R recording made on my 515 and a commercial DVD (28 Days Later).

Thanks again, I got used to doing that on my Pioneer.
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post #16766 of 23781
11/8/11 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

The HD signal will be down-converted to 480 for all recording and playback. If you use a HDMI cable to connect the recorder to your TV you can up-convert to HD up to 1080P.

Yes but my question was specifically in reference to watching LIVE television using the built in tuner. Is that down-converted?
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post #16767 of 23781
11/8/11 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by thedealman View Post

Yes but my question was specifically in reference to watching LIVE television using the built in tuner. Is that down-converted?

Yes. All processed content comes out after first being converted to 480i.

The pass through rf signal is a slightly amplified version of the input, with no change in resolution.

The quality of the 1080p HDMI output is quite good, but you lose the DD5.1 audio which can only come from playing a commerical DVD with that type of sound track.

It can tune HD, but it's not an HD tuner.
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post #16768 of 23781
11/8/11 at 4:11pm
My 515 automatically adjusted to the DST change without me telling it to do so. I don't remember setting anything in regards to the clock but it has maintained the correct time ever since I first plugged it in. That is nice.
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post #16769 of 23781
11/8/11 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

My 515 automatically adjusted to the DST change without me telling it to do so. I don't remember setting anything in regards to the clock but it has maintained the correct time ever since I first plugged it in. That is nice.

My 3575 has never had a problem with the DST change.
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post #16770 of 23781
11/8/11 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

My 515 automatically adjusted to the DST change without me telling it to do so. I don't remember setting anything in regards to the clock but it has maintained the correct time ever since I first plugged it in. That is nice.

There is a DST setting, you must have turned it on.

Still using Auto Clock Manual on your OTA DTV FOX channel?
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