Originally Posted by wajo Here's the best exposition
of the "analog sunset" that demystified it for me... it only applies to a narrow equipment category (BD) and excludes other equipment, as stated on pg 2:
Thanks for the clarification and links to the source, wajo. There has been a lot of confusion about the precise details of "analog sunset" on some of the other AVS forums, plus last time I looked outside AVS for confirmation I couldn't find any reference that didn't vaguely imply the rule applied to every
video product. So I guess its not as bad as some of us thought, but then again like Joe Kustra noted mfrs will probably use it as an excuse to get rid of the connections in new TVs anyway, and dump DVD recorders altogether.
Originally Posted by CitiBear
I suppose they'd still be fine for off-air recording, but that market is very very small here.
Originally Posted by Chuck44
No, its not.
until they get stuck in the back of your head
, the fact remains mfrs can't make the numbers work for these recorders based solely
on off-air viewers. The size of a market doesn't mean jack to mfrs if none of those people buy their product (or aren't willing to pay a realistic price).
There's nothing wrong with being an off-air viewer, its just that cable and satellite are huge factors in North America, and those services are pretty much responsible for the death of advanced "independent" recorders here. No recorder succeeds anymore if it doesn't integrate brainlessly with cable/sat, like the subscription PVRs or TiVO. Our Magnavoxes are great machines at firesale prices, but realize to mfr POV they're a flapping fish in a dried-up riverbed. If Funai was really making a killing selling the 515, its a certainty Panasonic and Sony would have jumped back in at some point over the last four years. Since they haven't, and Funai isn't promising anything after first quarter 2012, its game over (no matter how many "off-air-only" consumers there are).