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post #17221 of 23781
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post


Besides Walmart raising their price for new 515's to $248, I notice that Amazon prices for their Affiliates are higher... must be a just-before-Christmas thing.

It might also be a bad side effect of the current hard drive situation. Where there are shortages of hard drives because of the shut downs of hard drive manufacturing plants in Thailand due to the floods they had, and the end result of that is prices of hard drives are now shooting upwards.

http://consumerist.com/2011/11/thail...increases.html


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/bu...pagewanted=all

post #17222 of 23781
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

I have a Sylvania (Funai) Blu-ray player bought about a year ago that has NO COMPONENT outputs, just HDMI and composite. It was my understanding (probably flawed) that the analog outputs that were to be removed from BD players are only the component outputs.

Besides no HD analog out, they are also supposed to enforce Cinavia on all AACS licensed players. Something to consider if you're looking at a streamer as an alternative to a HDD-DVDR setup.

scott s.
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post #17223 of 23781
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Originally Posted by scott967 View Post

Besides no HD analog out, they are also supposed to enforce Cinavia on all AACS licensed players. Something to consider if you're looking at a streamer as an alternative to a HDD-DVDR setup.

scott s.
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What does that mean in english?
post #17224 of 23781
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Originally Posted by dare2be View Post

What does that mean in english?

Cinavia (audio "watermarking").
post #17225 of 23781
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Originally Posted by ClearToLand View Post

Kelson,

As my 'Favorite / Preferred' PC DVD Wizard, is it possible / relatively uncomplicated to take the two separate titles off a RW DVD, then combine them and author / burn another DVD with a PC?

Of course, with any reasonable authoring program. I'm sure you could find free utilities on videohelp.com that will join (mux) DVD segments in the same way there are those tools for BluRay source.
post #17226 of 23781
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

So in other words, it's the OEM that decides to remove a feature to increase their profits? S-Video is almost gone now. We live in a changing world.

Composite and component inputs on TV's and AVR's will continue however the number of those inputs will decrease over time as the number of HDMI inputs increases. Let's face it. Like it or not, analog is dead and it was not sudden. It has been dying for years since the first DVD's were released and accelerated when the first digital OTA ATSC broadcasts were transmitted and it was clear the fundamental structure of TV was shifting. It's just that now we are in the final stages of that death so it is finally hitting home to all those who were in denial and have now opened their eyes and are outraged at what is going on.
post #17227 of 23781
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Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

a new Magnavox without line inputs would be utterly useless to most cable and satellite subscribers in USA: the only possible input would be RF, which gets more restrictive every day. I suppose they'd still be fine for off-air recording, but that market is very very small here.

Citibear,
No, I don't think they are fine for OTA recording -- not any more. As Chuck44 noted, the OTA market is not exactly small. And, that market is HD. Sub-channels aside, which are largely garbage programming, the primary channels of all the major national and local broadcasters are all HD. Most people who buy a large HDTV and view OTA HD are not likely to want an SD recorder. When I bought my 50" plasma 3 yr ago, the mainstream screen size was 42". Today I was out shopping with the wife and while killing time I talked to the sale people in BestBuy, H.H.Greg and Sears -- the mainstream TV size as of this Christmas season is now 55-60". Have you seen the Sharp 70" LCD's for only $2700? People buying "mainstream" 55-60" HDTV's are not going to buy an SD recorder. After I bought my Plasma, I used a CM-7000 digital tuner hooked to a Panasonic E85 for my time-shifting. That lasted only 6 months before I bought a TiVo HD and put the E85 on a shelf for good. SD is as dead as analog in the OTA market.

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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

I have a Sylvania (Funai) Blu-ray player bought about a year ago that has NO COMPONENT outputs, just HDMI and composite. It was my understanding (probably flawed) that the analog outputs that were to be removed from BD players are only the component outputs.

As part of the provisions of a BDA license, all licensed BluRay players made in 2011 were to eliminate component outputs. As of Feb 2, 2012 all licensed BluRay players made will have to support Cinavia. As of 2013 all licensed BluRay players will eliminate all analog outputs.
post #17228 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Composite and component inputs on TV's and AVR's will continue however the number of those inputs will decrease over time as the number of HDMI inputs increases. Let's face it. Like it or not, analog is dead and it was not sudden. It has been dying for years since the first DVD's were released and accelerated when the first digital OTA ATSC broadcasts were transmitted and it was clear the fundamental structure of TV was shifting. It's just that now we are in the final stages of that death so it is finally hitting home to all those who were in denial and have now opened their eyes and are outraged at what is going on.

Those not outraged are in pure panic. When I setup my mother's digital tuner I dropped the analog SOAP channel. She freaked and wanted to return the TV. After I showed her it worked I explained that someday soon analog channel 68 was going away. Her response was to ask me how much to get a Dish DVR since a friend told her she could record her "stories" with little effort.

The analog well is going to have to become very dry before people miss the water.
post #17229 of 23781
Do the currently available models of Magnavox recorders have component video inputs, and if so are they high def capable? If so, that might be enough to get me to switch my satellite system to the high def version.
post #17230 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

The 515 remote layout is pitiful compared to the 2160A remote, which is physically virtual junk, but at least has a tolerable layout for editing.

When you say the 2160A remote is physically junk, are you referring to problems like I have had, where some of the buttons stopped working, and if so, do you know if the 515 remore is better in that regard?
post #17231 of 23781
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Originally Posted by oldnotbold View Post

Do the currently available models of Magnavox recorders have component video inputs, and if so are they high def capable? If so, that might be enough to get me to switch my satellite system to the high def version.

Component output only. All internal resolution is 480i. It will pass an rf signal with HD though slightly amplified. This would not be the unit for your needs. A tuner coupled to an external HD might work. Search around.

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13236451558153
post #17232 of 23781
Are you saying there are third-party tuners that will pick up satellite broadcasts (e.g., DirecTV)?
post #17233 of 23781
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Originally Posted by oldnotbold View Post

When you say the 2160A remote is physically junk, are you referring to problems like I have had, where some of the buttons stopped working, and if so, do you know if the 515 remore is better in that regard?


My confidence that the 515's will prove any better than the 2160A's is extremely low, though since my 515's is not regularly used it will probably outlast the rest of the machine. I took my first 2160A remote apart when a button entirely and suddenly ceased to function at all, cleaned it, put it back together, and the cleaning helped for less than a day. That's because the conductive layer on the bottom of each of the buttons is simply too thin to survive repeated editing use. Cleaning it simply made it clear how little of the layer remained on that particular button. Even new, with fresh batteries putting out 1.58 to 1.61 volts, too many button presses get ignored by the machines from as close as 7 feet away to say that they are of respectable quality. Maybe the receptor on the machines plays a part in this, but who's to say which? Either way, reliability is worse than good. Trouble is, they're all that's available new, a take it or leave it choice.
post #17234 of 23781
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Originally Posted by oldnotbold View Post

Are you saying there are third-party tuners that will pick up satellite broadcasts (e.g., DirecTV)?


No, just that there may be devices without internal storage that have component inputs. There are no HD DVR units with digital inputs to my knowledge. If it doesn't have an internal HDD, it's a tuner.

See ePVision PHD-8VX.
post #17235 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

My confidence that the 515's will prove any better than the 2160A's is extremely low, though since my 515's is not regularly used it will probably outlast the rest of the machine. I took my first 2160A remote apart when a button entirely and suddenly ceased to function at all, cleaned it, put it back together, and the cleaning helped for less than a day. That's because the conductive layer on the bottom of each of the buttons is simply too thin to survive repeated editing use. Cleaning it simply made it clear how little of the layer remained on that particular button.

Get a remote keypad repair kit, and apply new conductive coating to the keypad contacts.

http://www.chemtronics.com/products/...?r=1&m=2&id=32

https://www.tessco.com/products/disp...18&eventPage=1

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...W2605-/20-3890

http://www.keypadrepair.com/

http://www.replacementremotes.com/KE...VD-Remote.html

http://www.remotecontrolsinc.com/ind...hk=1&Itemid=28

http://www.familyhandyman.com/DIY-Pr...-the-tv-remote
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I looked at that class of product over a decade ago, and the price was ludicrous for anyone needing to repair more, or less, than about 3 remotes. It needed to be mixed parts prior to use like epoxy, so you commit the mix without knowing how much you actually need, from a supply that's minuscule to start with.

Maybe it's not so bad now, but the first link in your list that I clicked on showed the product being used, but no price or description of quantity of product, pot life, or shelf life.

Have you done this yourself? If so, which product did you use from which vendor? How many remotes did you fix? How much was/is left over still usable after a year on the shelf?
post #17237 of 23781
Despite it's shortcomings, I much prefer editing with the Magnavox than the computer I use to record HD.
post #17238 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post


I looked at that class of product over a decade ago, and the price was ludicrous for anyone needing to repair more, or less, than about 3 remotes. It needed to be mixed parts prior to use like epoxy, so you commit the mix without knowing how much you actually need, from a supply that's minuscule to start with.

Maybe it's not so bad now, but the first link in your list that I clicked on showed the product being used, but no price or description of quantity of product, pot life, or shelf life.

Have you done this yourself? If so, which product did you use from which vendor? How many remotes did you fix? How much was/is left over still usable after a year on the shelf?

Would it be easier/cheaper just to buy another remote?
post #17239 of 23781
I got a 513 about three months ago and found it perfect for my needs.
BUT there were times when two programs that I wanted to record were on at the same time. So I bought a 515!


The remotes have a very wide beam. Even with several feet of separation between units they both responded to the remote.

After reading the posts suggesting covering the receptors on the units (tried it), here is the solution to controlling one unit at a time.

1. Get a standard ball point pen, the kind they hand out with advertising. 2. Choose a pen with the longest end that holds the point in place, preferably black.
3. Take it apart and pull the pointed end out off the case.

4. Adjust it to fit over the LED in the remote. If it is too small, dip the big end in hot water and enlarge the opening.

5. After mounting it on the remote, you can adjust the distance between the units.

I used masking tape to hold the "Beam Spread Reducer" in place till after the warranty expires, then it will be permanently mounted to the 515 remote, which also controls the 513.

I have four feet horizontally between the 513 and the 515. That gives about a foot of dead zone in the middle, so they could be closer together.

Demi.
post #17240 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Demi Dolphin View Post

I got a 513 about three months ago and found it perfect for my needs.
BUT there were times when two programs that I wanted to record were on at the same time. So I bought a 515!


The remotes have a very wide beam. Even with several feet of separation between units they both responded to the remote.

After reading the posts suggesting covering the receptors on the units (tried it), here is the solution to controlling one unit at a time..

The pen-thing's already been discussed at length and mostly discarded, but someone may like it today?

The discussion back then got so "far-out" complicated compared to the "barrier" method that I created a "Phaser Remote" but never offered it to the forum at large.

Here's the Phaser Remote for anyone looking for the ultimate remote:





* * * * * * *
Note: This is a joke!
post #17241 of 23781
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

Would it be easier/cheaper just to buy another remote?

Now you're being logical. Next thing people will be buying a new car when their tires wear out. That will not help the economy. Oh..... ok, bad example.

On the other hand, it would be nice if there was an LED on the remote to indicate activity. Or an LED on the unit to indicate a signal has been received and it's being processed.

I checked eBay for remotes. None for the 2160A or 515H. I can buy a new remote for my Sony DVR. $25 and that DVR is over 6 years old. Post #1 describes how to get a new remote for the Magnavox.
post #17242 of 23781
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

Would it be easier/cheaper just to buy another remote?

Now you're being logical. Next thing people will be buying a new car when their tires wear out... Oh..... ok, bad example.

Actually, quite decent example. Like tires, remote buttons wear out, or succumb to hazards like kids, pizza grease and spilled drinks. Circuit boards and plastic cases generally do not. World ecology deserves better than the throwaway mindset.
post #17243 of 23781
What's the phaser remote do? I need some way to control both my Mags without interfering with each other.
post #17244 of 23781
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Originally Posted by oldnotbold View Post

Do the currently available models of Magnavox recorders have component video inputs, and if so are they high def capable? If so, that might be enough to get me to switch my satellite system to the high def version.

No. You'll need to import something like the MTV-7000D:



Or just to get a TiVo and a lifetime subscription. Ask them for a discount price.

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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

It might also be a bad side effect of the current hard drive situation. Where there are shortages of hard drives because of the shut downs of hard drive manufacturing plants in Thailand due to the floods they had, and the end result of that is prices of hard drives are now shooting upwards.

Even if they can fix the situation, there's a chance that HD's prices never will be cheap again, because ppl need them.
post #17245 of 23781
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Originally Posted by avsusername View Post

What's the phaser remote do? I need some way to control both my Mags without interfering with each other.

It'll probably disintegrate anything you point it at!

You must not have seen the 3 smilies and "This is a joke!" fine print?

You need to use the barrier method described here.
post #17246 of 23781
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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

Even if they can fix the situation, there's a chance that HD's prices never will be cheap again, because ppl need them.

No, HDD prices are dropping pretty quickly now. Supply is re-establishing itself. Before the floods, bulk-storage grade 2TB HDD (~5,400 rpm), that were good for video server storage, were selling for $80. I just saw one of the Hitachi 2TB drives ($80 pre-flood) selling for $110. It was selling for $160 a week ago.

I need a couple 2TB drives, so I've been watching the prices.
post #17247 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

No, HDD prices are dropping pretty quickly now. Supply is re-establishing itself. Before the floods, bulk-storage grade 2TB HDD (~5,400 rpm), that were good for video server storage, were selling for $80. I just saw one of the Hitachi 2TB drives ($80 pre-flood) selling for $110. It was selling for $160 a week ago.

I need a couple 2TB drives, so I've been watching the prices.

You're right, it's basic economics. Substitution theory. Like, if Funai kills the 515H next year, something will appear to takes its place. It might not be as good (IMO), but CE hates a vacuum.

Although Intel didn't help the market today.
post #17248 of 23781
My 515 has 0 backup. After a 10 sec power outage, I lost all my timer programs.
post #17249 of 23781
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Originally Posted by gggunter@yahoo.c View Post

My 515 has 0 backup. After a 10 sec power outage, I lost all my timer programs.

While timer rec programs still lost, do a Soft Reset and see if it makes any diff. on power backup.... should def. be longer than 0!
post #17250 of 23781
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

It'll probably disintegrate anything you point it at!

You must not have seen the 3 smilies and "This is a joke!" fine print?

You need to use the barrier method described here.

Yeah I see that now. Makes sense. (duh!)
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