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post #17431 of 23784
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

The "skip once" aspect became apparent somewhere along the line... not sure if I read that or discovered it by using it. Actually it has worked very well up until this recent "mass disappearance" (sounds like it would make a good horror film).

Just to make sure... the 727V FW update is for the 515, correct?

It's designed for the 515 but also works in the 513 and 2160A, the other two SATA-based units. In those units, it adds all the op. features of the 515, incl. pre-titling of timer rec programs/shows.
post #17432 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

It sounds like the perfect time for a SuperFW 727V update!?

MrMazda just reported (above) that he also had timer problems before 727V and now has none.

By the way, the Skip checkbox is supposed to be unchecked after one day skipped and, if you want another skip, you have to reset the checkmark,,, not sure that was mentioned for others reading this.

My 2yo 2160A has orig FW so maybe I'll try it on that first. Is a DVD+RW or -RW OK for FW updates?
post #17433 of 23784
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

My 2yo 2160A has orig FW so maybe I'll try it on that first. Is a DVD+RW or -RW OK for FW updates?

Yes, you can use a CD or RW DVD, just follow the detailed, step-by-step Funai Instructions which is one of the files you will be downloading.

I use CD cuz it's the simplest and most direct using the Windows XP "Send To" command (right-click on .MOT file). Also, the "Closing" op at the end is automatic (like "Finalizing").

However, for Windows, it's the same Send to command for either CD or DVD... DVD just sends it to the Record Now app that's usually/often/sometimes/always/never pkgd with Windows. If using Record Now, select the option for a Data Project > Create Data Disc.

Windows Vista has some "special" instructions that are important to read.
post #17434 of 23784
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

I am going to try it again tonight when I get home from work

well, I tried it again and it worked. I must have done something wrong the 1st time. I am pleases with the quality of the recording...much better then those ram disks on the EZ-28!
post #17435 of 23784
I think I asked this before but should I put in the FW update? My machine was manufactured in August of 2011. I just started using it and have not noticed any problems. i do intend to us the timer to record shows on a weekly basis and use the skip mark to skip repeats.
post #17436 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

It's designed for the 515 but also works in the 513 and 2160A, the other two SATA-based units. In those units, it adds all the op. features of the 515, incl. pre-titling of timer rec programs/shows.

Getting pre-titling on the 2160 would be great. Too bad that FW isn't compatible with the 3576.

I'm going to stop at Best Buy this afternoon - they advertised a 550va APC UPS for $40 - I'd like to get that in place before any FW upgrades...
post #17437 of 23784
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

I think I asked this before but should I put in the FW update? My machine was manufactured in August of 2011. I just started using it and have not noticed any problems. i do intend to us the timer to record shows on a weekly basis and use the skip mark to skip repeats.

Old but best advice: Don't fix it if it ain't broken!
post #17438 of 23784
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

well, I tried it again and it worked. I must have done something wrong the 1st time. I am pleases with the quality of the recording...much better then those ram disks on the EZ-28!

I'm happy for you. You might miss those 61 minute HQ recordings. Or not. I tried my EZ28 just to see if they changed my cable. I still get U99 on digital channels. The tuner on the Magnavox is so much better too.
post #17439 of 23784
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I'm happy for you. You might miss those 61 minute HQ recordings. Or not. I tried my EZ28 just to see if they changed my cable. I still get U99 on digital channels. The tuner on the Magnavox is so much better too.

With the Mag, people can get almost 66 min. on a DVD with HQ RTR, as listed here.

The only things limited to 60 min. are real-time dub (RTD) and timer rec.
post #17440 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

With the Mag, people can get almost 66 min. on a DVD with HQ RTR, as listed here.

The only thing limited to 60 min. is a real-time dub (RTD).

I will try it with the 515H. When I scheduled at 61 minute recording directly to DVD+RW on my 2160A, it went to the HDD. Maybe things have changed.

But with 50hrs at HQ, it's no big thing now. It will be a sad day when the 515H is no longer available. It's really a value.
post #17441 of 23784
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I will try it with the 515H. When I scheduled at 61 minute recording directly to DVD+RW on my 2160A, it went to the HDD. Maybe things have changed.

But with 50hrs at HQ, it's no big thing now. It will be a sad day when the 515H is no longer available. It's really a value.

I think this recorder is excellent, could do a bit better on the menu's but for it offers, there are few drawbacks.
I am going to put the Panny ez-28 on Ebay along with the ram disks!
post #17442 of 23784
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I will try it with the 515H. When I scheduled at 61 minute recording directly to DVD+RW on my 2160A, it went to the HDD. Maybe things have changed.

But with 50hrs at HQ, it's no big thing now. It will be a sad day when the 515H is no longer available. It's really a value.

Hmmm, 61 minutes should have been OK, as long as there really was that time remaining on that DVD... was it new/blank? I think my tests were on -R discs on my trusty old 3575 test-bed... have to do some more tests... Oh, boy!
post #17443 of 23784
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I will try it with the 515H. When I scheduled at 61 minute recording directly to DVD+RW on my 2160A, it went to the HDD. Maybe things have changed.

But with 50hrs at HQ, it's no big thing now. It will be a sad day when the 515H is no longer available. It's really a value.

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Hmmm, 61 minutes should have been OK, as long as there really was that time remaining on that DVD... was it new/blank? I think my tests were on -R discs on my trusty old 3575 test-bed... have to do some more tests... Oh, boy!

Before, I must not have noticed that a timer rec to DVD for more than the normal RTD time would revert immediately to the HDD... couldn't get a timer rec to "go long" on a -RW or a -R... have to delete "timer recording" from the help file... until further notice.
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Hmmm, 61 minutes should have been OK, as long as there really was that time remaining on that DVD... was it new/blank? I think my tests were on -R discs on my trusty old 3575 test-bed... have to do some more tests... Oh, boy!

Well, it's a simple test. Schedule anything for 61 minutes HQ to a DVR+RW and see if it works. Probably same with DVD-RW, but I never tested that.

Funny story. I would get a new DVD-RAM. In the EZ28K I would do a low level format. Then I would go to my Toshiba RX-50 and make a 65 minute 9.2 Mbs recording. Then I would erase the recording and the result is a DVD-RAM that holds 65 minutes. I don't know enough to explain why it works, but it always does. Even a low-level (40 minutes) format on the RX-50 would indicate 60 minutes space until after I made a 65 minute recording. The RX-50 has an analog tuner, but I would feed it from digital tuners.

And then I found the Sony DHG and 2160A.
post #17445 of 23784
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Originally Posted by 234 View Post

I want to have many case test result.
Is there anybody help us this Beta testing?

Sorry I can't, but I'm sure you'll get some volunteers.

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Originally Posted by kurt404 View Post

I've had two of these units for about a year and a few months. One of them has been rock solid - the other developed the following symptoms after about 10 months:

(...)

Any help or other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, particularly with navigating the parts ordering process.

As you said, you will need to replace the burner. There's nothing more to do... except to check for a loose/damaged cable near the pick-up.
post #17446 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Hmmm, 61 minutes should have been OK, as long as there really was that time remaining on that DVD... was it new/blank? I think my tests were on -R discs on my trusty old 3575 test-bed... have to do some more tests... Oh, boy!

61 minutes reminaing in the opinion of what? The 2160A says an erased DVD+RW has 60 minutes free. Ok, no problem. But then you do the math, and I get quotes about a spec. That's OK too. I just don't know how to fit, in HQ, more than 60 minutes on a DVD-RW or DVD+RW. You write the 60 minutes and have a "free" space. This free space only exists after using the first 60 minutes. Spec may be right, but it is rather odd.

We've been here before and it's not high on my priority list. With all the storage on a 515H, a DVD is a device for those who want to archive titles for the future. Not my thing, but I understand the purpose.

As for DVD-RAM, one thing does stand out: the skip function. It's almost as good as an HDD. With a +RW or -RW, it can be frustrating.
post #17447 of 23784
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

As for DVD-RAM, one thing does stand out: the skip function. It's almost as good as an HDD. With a +RW or -RW, it can be frustrating.

Don't forget chase play. That's the reason that I bought DVD-RAM discs.
post #17448 of 23784
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Funny story. I would get a new DVD-RAM. In the EZ28K I would do a low level format. Then I would go to my Toshiba RX-50 and make a 65 minute 9.2 Mbs recording. Then I would erase the recording and the result is a DVD-RAM that holds 65 minutes. I don't know enough to explain why it works, but it always does. Even a low-level (40 minutes) format on the RX-50 would indicate 60 minutes space until after I made a 65 minute recording. The RX-50 has an analog tuner, but I would feed it from digital tuners...

A similar odd thing but if I "prep" a DVD(any type) in my EZ-28(record a 5 second EP8 title and then delete it) if I then put that DVD in one of my older ES or EH series Panasonics, I get 1:04 min XP or 2:09 min SP of direct to DVD recording
Now that I know the trick I "prep" all my direct burn DVDs in my EZ-28 and only do the actual recording on my ES series machines(you don't get the extra time actually recording on the EZ-28).
Another very handy result of prepping the DVDs is using FR, it totally fills the disc(4409MB) instead of the normal 4000MB file for FR.
post #17449 of 23784
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

A similar odd thing but if I "prep" a DVD(any type) in my EZ-28(record a 5 second EP8 title and then delete it) if I then put that DVD in one of my older ES or EH series Panasonics, I get 1:04 min XP or 2:09 min SP of direct to DVD recording
Now that I know the trick I "prep" all my direct burn DVDs in my EZ-28 and only do the actual recording on my ES series machines(you don't get the extra time actually recording on the EZ-28).
Another very handy result of prepping the DVDs is using FR, it totally fills the disc(4409MB) instead of the normal 4000MB file for FR.

I know. The DVD-RAM is a DVD of another color. But that's what I missed when buying my 2160A. Since I was used to saving to DVD, I picked up on the difference quickly. It's not so important with 500GB. I don't have that many DVD-RAM disks. And you can't walk into most stores to buy them.

I find it cute that the Magnavox doesn't give you an error. It just blinks the red LED and puts the title on the HDD. That's nice. Almost friendly.

To get the 65 minutes on the EZ28, I used the RX-50 to make a 65 minute recording, which the EZ28 would then accept as disk space. Probably would work on your ES series too.
post #17450 of 23784
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Originally Posted by mkpl View Post

I set the skip on some shows, and a few of them disappeared from the timer.

I've had the same thing happen to me... on a V2160A...

Set a scheduled recording to skip a week...
After the scheduled recording skips that week, that particular scheduled recording timer gets deleted...

I've also had all my scheduled recording timers get deleted after scanning both OTA and Cable channels...

Kind of a pain...
post #17451 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Before, I must not have noticed that a timer rec to DVD for more than the normal RTD time would revert immediately to the HDD... couldn't get a timer rec to "go long" on a -RW or a -R... have to delete "timer recording" from the help file... until further notice.

I'm really sorry to open this can of worms again. It's noteworthy but not as important as having the pesky analog lockup fixed for the cable people. My units have never locked up despite many attempts to duplicate the issue. As for history:

8/24/2010:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post19096742
post #17452 of 23784
Now that my 515 is up and running, I have a question. I have the 515 hooked with both the composite out and the HDMI. When i am watching a channel through the 515, it appears that the composite picture is better then the hdmi picture, which is grainier. I have changed the rgb to cbyr but composite is just better. Is the way it should be?
post #17453 of 23784
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

Now that my 515 is up and running, I have a question. I have the 515 hooked with both the composite out and the HDMI. When i am watching a channel through the 515, it appears that the composite picture is better then the hdmi picture, which is grainier. I have changed the rgb to cbyr but composite is just better. Is the way it should be?

That's the way mine is, which I attribute to preserving the composite cable feed I receive all the way to the HDTV w/o conversion and loss of PQ, and my HDTV can use its better circuits/filters to convert to its native 1080p format.
post #17454 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

That's the way mine is, which I attribute to preserving the composite cable feed I receive all the way to the HDTV w/o conversion and loss of PQ, and my HDTV can use its better circuits/filters to convert to its native 1080p format.

My tv only goes to 1080i which is what the HDMI is in.The mag is is coverted to 480i(it says on the screen) but looks better...odd!
post #17455 of 23784
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

My tv only goes to 1080i which is what the HDMI is in.The mag is is coverted to 480i(it says on the screen) but looks better...odd!

Your's is an even "purer" conversion than mine... no convert to progressive!
post #17456 of 23784
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Your's is an even "purer" conversion than mine... no convert to progressive!

All HD TVs are progressive, 1080i simply means that it can't accept a 1080p input signal. All content is deinterlaced to "p" before it is displayed. Prior to BluRay there was no 1080p input. The ATSC spec doesn't define it even though it does define and mandate 18 other display formats. To be able to be called a TV the Feds say the device has to have a tuner, accept, and display all 18, up conversion and down conversion is allowed.
post #17457 of 23784
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Originally Posted by Bizarro_Stormy View Post

Set a scheduled recording to skip a week...
After the scheduled recording skips that week, that particular scheduled recording timer gets deleted...

This happens on my 515. So what I do now is that if something is pre-empted this Monday, I change the recording date to next week Monday's date. Once this Monday passes, I can change it back to every Monday. (Else if I forget, it will record next Monday and disappear from the timers.) I usually do all my programming adjustments every Sunday so i don't forget.
post #17458 of 23784
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Originally Posted by EPlay View Post

This happens on my 515. So what I do now is that if something is pre-empted this Monday, I change the recording date to next week Monday's date. Once this Monday passes, I can change it back to every Monday. (Else if I forget, it will record next Monday and disappear from the timers.) I usually do all my programming adjustments every Sunday so i don't forget.

Why Doesn't the skip button work?????????
post #17459 of 23784
One other question...can i use a CD to make the FW disc? I am not installing it yet but want it handy in case i might. Also, would i use this update if i have a problem with the skip option in the menu.
Thanks again for all the help. this is by far and away the most help forum out there!!!!
post #17460 of 23784
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

One other question...can i use a CD to make the FW disc? I am not installing it yet but want it handy in case i might. Also, would i use this update if i have a problem with the skip option in the menu.
Thanks again for all the help. this is by far and away the most help forum out there!!!!

CD-R works fine. I've made them with Windows and Nero Burning ROM.
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