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post #17761 of 23781
I have read and downloaded your post of instruction on the Mag 515. Question is on autostart. If you record a program does that alter the buffer memory? Let me tell you what I did and maybe you can tell me the correct procedure. I have Dir TV Sat. Recorded last half of 1 hr show on pbs; was watching show for a while and then decided to record show last half hour. thought I could pick up first 30 min. and record from autostart buffer later. the show started at 9pm and i started recording at 9:34. I started record and then saved 26min. of recording. autostart would not go back to 9pm. I could only go back to 9:34. I thought that I had 6 hrs or buffer to go back to. would you please explain the me what i didn't do or what I should have done. Evidently I don't understand the system. I'll admit that my electronic experience is limited but I have always enjoyed electronics! Thanks in advance! videonutwo
post #17762 of 23781
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Originally Posted by videonutwo View Post

I have read and downloaded your post of instruction on the Mag 515. Question is on autostart. If you record a program does that alter the buffer memory? Let me tell you what I did and maybe you can tell me the correct procedure. I have Dir TV Sat. Recorded last half of 1 hr show on pbs; was watching show for a while and then decided to record show last half hour. thought I could pick up first 30 min. and record from autostart buffer later. the show started at 9pm and i started recording at 9:34. I started record and then saved 26min. of recording. autostart would not go back to 9pm. I could only go back to 9:34. I thought that I had 6 hrs or buffer to go back to. would you please explain the me what i didn't do or what I should have done. Evidently I don't understand the system. I'll admit that my electronic experience is limited but I have always enjoyed electronics! Thanks in advance! videonutwo

Apparently, you're feeding the 515 with live TV from your sat receiver? If so, don't start manual recording during the program cuz that wipes out the buffer and it has to start over... AFTER your manual recording stops.

While watching live TV, go into the AR buffer, back to the beginning of the show you want to save to the HDD, press REC one time there. Then go back to live TV (or chase play in the buffer) until the end of the show... start and end points don't have to be exact cuz you can trim them later on the HDD... just make sure ALL of the show has passed by so its in the buffer. Press STOP button twice, which shows a short progress bar on bottom of screen to let you know the entire buffer, from your set start point, has been saved to the HDD as a normal title. The buffer will start over from there.

In case my wording is not correct here, see the detailed procedure for this here.
post #17763 of 23781
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post


While waiting for a better answer, please read through post #1.

I've recorded from a DTV DVR to the Mag using S-video and it actually looks pretty good.
post #17764 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Maldez View Post

Help! I just bought a Magnavox MDR513H/F7 to go with my Directv HD programming and after hooking it up all my beautiful HD programming became what looks like standard broadcasting . . . There has to be something very simple I'm missing....somebody, please tell me what it is and THANKS!

What you are missing is that fact that all DVD recorders are inherently SD devices. Nothing comes out of the Magnavox or any DVD recorder in HD -- it's all SD and depending on the recording speed could be a lot worse than SD. Whether you tell the Magnavox to upconvert the signal or you pass native 480i out and let your display do the upconversion is irrelevant. It's still all SD output.

DVD Recorders only accept 480i from their video inputs and if the tuner can tune an HD channel it immediately down-converts it to SD before it does anything.

If you want to view HD you need to connect your sat box (or sat DVR) back directly to your display the way you had it via HDMI or component and not view through the Magnavox.
post #17765 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Maldez View Post

Help! I just bought a Magnavox MDR513H/F7 to go with my Directv HD programming and after hooking it up all my beautiful HD programming became what looks like standard broadcasting.

I have an HDMI cable going from the Magnavox to my Sony HD TV, but the cables I used to connect the Satellite receiver to the Magnavox were just the ones that came in the box with the recorder.

I realize that composite cables provide the highest resolution but to my bewilderment there doesn't seem to be any composite cable Input ports on the back of the Magnavox, only Output.

There has to be something very simple I'm missing....somebody, please tell me what it is and THANKS!

For anyone wanting more info on this post, see his duplicate post here.
post #17766 of 23781
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Originally Posted by rta53 View Post

I've recorded from a DTV DVR to the Mag using S-video and it actually looks pretty good.

I've recorded from a Pace HD STB via RWY and, while letterbox, it was still good quality and better than nothing.
post #17767 of 23781
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

For anyone wanting more info on this post, see his duplicate post here.

The thread does bring up an interesting question though...is the upconvert circuitry only activated on DVD playback, or on HDD/live feed playback as well? I think that is the crux of the question he is asking, just doesn't know how to ask it.
post #17768 of 23781
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Originally Posted by dare2be View Post

The thread does bring up an interesting question though...is the upconvert circuitry only activated on DVD playback, or on HDD/live feed playback as well? I think that is the crux of the question he is asking, just doesn't know how to ask it.

Upconversion is valid at all times. Or should I say, you set the output with the remote HDMI button and the Setup menu option of Progressive ON/OFF.

I ship everything out at 1080p
post #17769 of 23781
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Upconversion is valid at all times. Or should I say, you set the output with the remote HDMI button and the Setup menu option of Progressive ON/OFF.

I ship everything out at 1080p

This may have been the step this guy was missing, and why he is so disappointed in his pic quality coming from the Mag's HDMI output.
post #17770 of 23781
[quote=ericole;21485738]I tried again - same result. And I've verified that the DVDs are good - my wife burned one on our computer just a couple of weeks ago with no problem. This last failure was after I ran the Philips DVD cleaner disc on the unit. I also checked and there is NO dust on my DVD tray.

Have you tried recording directly to a DVD instead of the hard drive to see if that will work? If it does there may be something else going on in the dubbing process. If not it should default to the HDD or give you an error message to the effect there is no DVD in the drive. I've had recordings fail on my 3575 for this reason even though the recording drive specified was the HDD and it's supposed to default to the HDD if there is no DVD in place. Go figure--at least it's a rare happening.

You may end up having to try a hard reset if it looks like a software hiccup. Although I don't know how you can easily save the contents of your HDD.
post #17771 of 23781
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Originally Posted by dare2be View Post

The thread does bring up an interesting question though...is the upconvert circuitry only activated on DVD playback, or on HDD/live feed playback as well? I think that is the crux of the question he is asking, just doesn't know how to ask it.

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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Upconversion is valid at all times. Or should I say, you set the output with the remote HDMI button and the Setup menu option of Progressive ON/OFF.

I ship everything out at 1080p

Just remember, the display itself is built to upconvert everything it receives on any input to match the native screen resolution. A high end display will most likely have much better upconversion circuitry than a DVD Recorder or even a run-of-the-mill DVD player. Don't assume that sending a 1080p upconverted signal from the recorder is always going to result in the best PQ. You should try several settings and outputs, sending the signal as 480i and letting the display do the work, to determine what gives you the best PQ.
post #17772 of 23781
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Originally Posted by ericole View Post

I tried again - same result. And I've verified that the DVDs are good - my wife burned one on our computer just a couple of weeks ago with no problem. This last failure was after I ran the Philips DVD cleaner disc on the unit. I also checked and there is NO dust on my DVD tray.

I really don't need to have to dig into the unit. Just took apart my 12-year old VCR over the weekend. And we just burned a DVD on our computer, which is much older (and more used) than the DVR.

This is crappy!

Some things not tried yet:

1.A Soft Reset, as described here.

2. A SKIP 079 HDD/DVD Self-Check STEP 1 ONLY to test DVD connection, as described here.

3. A SKIP 987 Manufacturer's Process Adjustment, for which you'll need both a -R and a +R disc, as described here.

4. A SKIP 123 Hard Reset, as described here.

None of the above will delete recorded HDD titles. #4 does lose several other things, as described in that link (that's why this is last).
post #17773 of 23781
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

3. A SKIP 987 Manufacturer's Process Adjustment, for which you'll need both a -R and a +R disc, as described here.

I wonder if this process would clear up my V515's pickiness with RW discs? Trouble is, +R is incompatible with my Pioneer 633, so I've never bought any, and I don't foresee any other reason ever to buy any. Might a +RW disc serve the same purpose?
post #17774 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

I wonder if this process would clear up my V515's pickiness with RW discs? Trouble is, +R is incompatible with my Pioneer 633, so I've never bought any, and I don't foresee any other reason ever to buy any. Might a +RW disc serve the same purpose?

No, the automated procedure asks for each disc, -R +R, in order to test separately... altho I never tried a +RW disc.
post #17775 of 23781
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post #17776 of 23781
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Some things not tried yet:


3. A SKIP 987 Manufacturer's Process Adjustment, for which you'll need both a -R and a +R disc, as described here.
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Having already tried cleaning the laser with a swab and alcohol and having tried a cleaning kit, I just bought a small pack of DVD-Rs and I finally attempted the 987 procedure hoping it would fix my V2160A's inability to burn DVD+Rs (no problem with DVD+RWs). Alas, it didn't work (but I did discover that the V2160A will also not write to DVD-Rs). (My 515 has no problem writing to my DVD+Rs, regardless of quality). And I've tried the full quality spectrum of DVD+Rs. Both machines are refurbs and the V2160A's problem apparently pre-existed.

Jim
post #17777 of 23781
My 3576 will be getting a real workout this weekend. I just noticed that Hulu added 52 episodes of An Evening at the Improv to their selection.
post #17778 of 23781
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Originally Posted by JimLely View Post

Having already tried cleaning the laser with a swab and alcohol and having tried a cleaning kit, I just bought a small pack of DVD-Rs and I finally attempted the 987 procedure hoping it would fix my V2160A's inability to burn DVD+Rs (no problem with DVD+RWs). Alas, it didn't work (but I did discover that the V2160A will also not write to DVD-Rs). (My 515 has no problem writing to my DVD+Rs, regardless of quality). And I've tried the full quality spectrum of DVD+Rs. Both machines are refurbs and the V2160A's problem apparently pre-existed.

Have you tried dubbing to a -R/+R disc with the 2160A on L3?
post #17779 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Did you select "Antenna" from the Auto Channel Preset menu?

Auto Channel Preset should scan all of the analog channels first, then digital channels. You shouldn't need to use the TV/DTV button during the channel scan.

Yes Antenna was selected ..... I have no cable nor satellite ...that's one reason I bought this to be able to pause channel I'm watching or record to HDD so I can time shift my life and blow by commercials. Get the screen coming up saying it is scanning channels but it seems to actually be doing nothing at all ....if I press DTV screen changes from 2 to 2. 1 and I also don't see the progress bar when trying to scan digital channels
post #17780 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Kawabob View Post

Indeed it does. I installed the Super Firmware on my 2160A units and it works great. The only thing missing is the 2hour backup time.

And the same remote - although I know that some actually prefer the 513's.
post #17781 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mikedenn View Post

Yes Antenna was selected ..... I have no cable nor satellite ...that's one reason I bought this to be able to pause channel I'm watching or record to HDD so I can time shift my life and blow by commercials. Get the screen coming up saying it is scanning channels but it seems to actually be doing nothing at all ....if I press DTV screen changes from 2 to 2. 1 and I also don't see the progress bar when trying to scan digital channels

Some things to try:

1.A Soft Reset, as described here.

Then try an Auto Channel Preset > Antenna.

2. A SKIP 123 Hard Reset, as described here.

Then try an Auto Channel Preset > Antenna.

Neither of the above will delete recorded HDD titles. #2 does lose several other things, as described in that link.
post #17782 of 23781
mrmazda read through you link .... but it is a tangled tale .... bottom line is my units tuner may not work??? Send it back? Is that what ur saying ?
post #17783 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mikedenn View Post

mrmazda read through you link .... but it is a tangled tale .... bottom line is my units tuner may not work??? Send it back? Is that what ur saying ?

Huh!?
post #17784 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mikedenn View Post

Yes Antenna was selected ..... I have no cable nor satellite ...that's one reason I bought this to be able to pause channel I'm watching or record to HDD so I can time shift my life and blow by commercials. Get the screen coming up saying it is scanning channels but it seems to actually be doing nothing at all ....if I press DTV screen changes from 2 to 2. 1 and I also don't see the progress bar when trying to scan digital channels

Disconnect the antenna and run the auto channel preset again. It should progress through all the analog and digital channels without anything hooked up to Ant In. If the scan doesn't make any progress at all without an antenna I would suspect a defective tuner.
post #17785 of 23781
I got my refurbished 513 from J&R today. So far everything seems to work. It came with a 515 manual.

It's not one of the lightly used Walmart returns though.
Manufactured Apr 2011
DVD WR 0:44
DVD RD 7:59
CD 0:00
HDD 1282
That's more HDD hours than my newest 2160A has and it's 2 1/2 years old. It would have had to be on all the time for 53+ days to get that many hours.

I'm a little confused about the firmware though. Skip 123 shows
E2S00UD
DTV-S 0X2B
FE R60_001_000
BE HD6A269727H1E
TT T5011RDU@5

Going by the firmware sticky this should be the new super firmware but I don't have the ability to title recordings or skip timer recordings.

I'm going to leave things alone for now so I can make sure everything works properly but i'll probably end up reverting to the 72A firmware and then update to 727H again to see if I get the missing 515 abilities.
post #17786 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Kansas_Tom View Post

BE HD6A269727H1E
Going by the firmware sticky this should be the new super firmware but I don't have the ability to title recordings or skip timer recordings.

727V gives you the ability to title timer recordings.
post #17787 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Kansas_Tom View Post

I got my refurbished 513 from J&R today. So far everything seems to work. It came with a 515 manual.

It's not one of the lightly used Walmart returns though.
Manufactured Apr 2011
DVD WR 0:44
DVD RD 7:59
CD 0:00
HDD 1282
That's more HDD hours than my newest 2160A has and it's 2 1/2 years old. It would have had to be on all the time for 53+ days to get that many hours.

I'm a little confused about the firmware though. Skip 123 shows
E2S00UD
DTV-S 0X2B
FE R60_001_000
BE HD6A269727H1E
TT T5011RDU@5

Going by the firmware sticky this should be the new super firmware but I don't have the ability to title recordings or skip timer recordings.

I'm going to leave things alone for now so I can make sure everything works properly but i'll probably end up reverting to the 72A firmware and then update to 727H again to see if I get the missing 515 abilities.

It's an early-513 (E2S00UD) with the currently authorized FW (727H), which doesn't get the 515 capabilities. You'll need to update to SuperFW 727V... no need to back down to 72A.

However, DO download all currently available FW and keep tucked away just in case.
post #17788 of 23781
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

What you are missing is that fact that all DVD recorders are inherently SD devices. Nothing comes out of the Magnavox or any DVD recorder in HD -- it's all SD and depending on the recording speed could be a lot worse than SD. Whether you tell the Magnavox to upconvert the signal or you pass native 480i out and let your display do the upconversion is irrelevant. It's still all SD output.

DVD Recorders only accept 480i from their video inputs and if the tuner can tune an HD channel it immediately down-converts it to SD before it does anything.

If you want to view HD you need to connect your sat box (or sat DVR) back directly to your display the way you had it via HDMI or component and not view through the Magnavox.

Don't agree, maybe it's a definitional thing. The Maggy will record for a 16:9 DAR, right (setting aside the DAR flag issue)?
AFAIK, 16:9 DAR is not SD.

scott s.
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post #17789 of 23781
Thanks Ken.F and wajo. Too many numbers and letters rolling around in my head.
post #17790 of 23781
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Originally Posted by mikedenn View Post

mrmazda read through you link .... but it is a tangled tale .... bottom line is my units tuner may not work??? Send it back? Is that what ur saying ?

More or less, since I don't know when you bought yours.
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